Volt vs V2

[vapeman]

Hi. This is my first time in these forums. I have been vaping off and on for almost two years now. My wife first got me interested with a blu ecig. I did not get a great experience from it, but it peaked my interest in the potential of ecigs. Then I tried my friends cig2o and I was hooked. I've been using the cig2o for some time now and find it to be quite satisfying usually. Unfortunately, I've had a few chargers go bad on me and due to a difference of opinion with vapage customer service, I've decided to try something new. I visited one of the first local vaping stores in my town and looked over some of the offerings. Their prices were high, but I'm sure they will get some business from me when I am out of cartomizers or need emergency accessories. But for now, I think my next kit will come off the internet. The cig2o does not lend itself to using liquid, so this is something that might influence my decision. I want something small enough to keep 2 or 3 batteries in my pocket while I'm working and don't have access to a charger. Obviously battery life is important to me. Also, I was a heavy smoker so I can put down a few cartomizers in a day, so cartomizer price is very important. I prefer to buy in bulk. So here are my questions. Between the Volt and the V2 which is the better kit to get? I want as thick vapor as I can get and I want the batteries to last long. Also, are the cartomizers fully interchangeable? I hear the V2 has great cartomizers for the price. Are these the best? Also, can either of these kits be refilled with liquid easily? Will that save me money? Right now my thoughts are to get a Volt kit and use V2 cartomizers. I would certainly be open to any other brands anyone sees may suit my needs.

 

[ardelleg]

Welcome to ECF.....

I started with 808's from V2, Vapor4Life and Volt..... all were about the same.... except V2 had shipping and fulfillment issues... I have refilled cartomizers from all 3 with out any problems.... After 6+ months I moved on to Rivas and carto tanks but the 808 cig sized ones got me started...

 

[jshamm]

If you're going to consider the volt kit I'd suggest you look into the Volt x2 battery. It's what I use right now, vape pretty heavily, and get about 8 hours out of one battery. It can also double as a passthrough which is a nice feature.

 

[vapeman]

Thanks. Good to know V2 can have fulfillment issues. I'll have to be extra careful if I decide on their cartomizers. I'm not sure about going to a Riva or anything larger, but I'm not opposed to a 510. Its funny everybody says 510 is the most common cigarette sized, but all the recommended ecigs I see mentioned are 808. Did you find the flavors were equal between all companies, or are you strictly speaking about the cigs?

 

[vapeman]

Thanks about the x2. That might be a good compromise with size and battery. I will consider it.

edit: OK its a lot bigger than I thought. But it might be a great one to keep at home that'll be compatible with my accessories.

 

[MattyB1503]

V2 and Volt were the first two things I tried (in that order). Then about two months later went to a Mini ViVi Nova on an eGo Twist; well two 650 mAh batteries and ~ three Nova tanks. Yeah I get lazy and don't want to clean a tank just to change juices to so I just clean two or three at a time.

Anyways although kr808's are what got me off cigs I feel I got the most value for my money out of the ViVi Nova eGo combo. I wish I had made that upgrade a lot sooner, prob would have saved me a lot of stressing out (plus a good chunk of cash).

My opinion of V2 is (even tho they have dropped their prices recently) they are still overpriced and although their website looks legit they have absolutely no quality control. I think I sent back a total of three different batteries and I only ordered two... That's where the stress comes in; you're down to one battery and it's dead or on the charger. You def stress or even worse buy a pack to hold you over... They do have a life time warranty but you will need it.

Volt, umm well I felt like I was mislead by their tech support. I emailed them and asked about their 3.7v batteries vs. V2's 4.2v. They told me that because they use a horizontal coil in their cartomizers that their kr808's produced superior vapor. In my green-ness to e-cigs I believed them, and that was a lie. A working V2 battery will most defiantly produce more vapor then a Volt using the same cartomizer. I wish Volt's tech support would have just been honest and suggested a low resistance (LR) caromizer.

Out of three batteries I ordered from Volt one had chewed up thread; they sent me another which didn't fire then finally sent me a good one. So yeah 3/5 worked.

Another thing I noticed is Volt uses a textured rubber coating. If you set them down on, say a clean black cloth (especially the white batteries) they will get discolored. they get stained and pick up grit supper easy.

I'm not really a fan of kr808's because the battery life is just not long enough for me. I was a pack a day smoker and there is no was two Volt or V2 batteries would get me through even a eight hour shift at work.

However if I was to try another cig style kr808 I would try Smoov (http://www.smoovcigs.com/) because Phil from Taste Your Juice (Taste Your Juice | HARDWARE RECOMMENDATIONS) recommends them and I really respect his opinion.

 

[kiwivap]

Volt, umm well I felt like I was mislead by their tech support. I emailed them and asked about their 3.7v batteries vs. V2's 4.2v. They told me that because they use a horizontal coil in their cartomizers that their kr808's produced superior vapor. In my green-ness to e-cigs I believed them, and that was a lie. A working V2 battery will most defiantly produce more vapor then a Volt using the same cartomizer. I wish Volt's tech support would have just been honest and suggested a low resistance (LR) caromizer.

SI don't recommend using LR cartomizers with their batteries. so would never tell you to do that. Ideally 2.6-2.8 ohms, or 2.4 ohms for cartomizers but not lower. LR drains batteries that size. X2's have measured at 4.2 volts straight after charge, then after inital use they drop to the regulated 3.6-3.7 volts. Horizontal coil cartomizers have advantages on smaller batteries. I've noticed the difference.

 

[kiwivap]

Hi Fortozs,

I haven't used V2s so can't compare there. I've used and still use Smokeless Image X2s and Volts. I used to smoke 40-50 a day and the Volts and X2s kept me off cigarettes and gave a good vape. I used them exclusively for months. I bought some mods to celebrate when I had a personal milestone, but didn't "need" mods. I still use my X2s and Volts for work though. And occasionally at home. Today I was vaping an X2 at home.

I can recommend the 78mm - still ciggish size but 320 mah. I have some and they last me about 2.5 hours of vaping.
They also make the larger ego size batts - Volt X2s, as I mentioned - if you want to upgrade later. The X2s can also be used as a passthrough.

All their batts are regulated at 3.7 volts. Smokeless Image batteries are 808 threaded, both the Volts and X2s. This means they are compatible with other 808 threaded products. Smokeless Image also carry a good range of their own accessories. Their cartomizers are bottom coil. I also use a simple 808-510 adapter sometimes so I put 510 accessories on them, e.g. vivi nova. Adapters can be bought from a lot of vendors and cost a couple of bucks. Regardless of what pv you buy adapters are good to have.

The kits are $20, the basic starter pack is $30. They have other starter packs too.

Some pics for you, click on them for a bigger view:


L-R: 1.Volts and X2 size comparison 2.Volt 78mm 3.Volt X2 900mah

Discount codes: 10VOLTECF for 10% off entire purchase

CompareOur808d for 15% off cartomizers only

Smokeless Image have a good reputation and are a registered ECF supplier.

Hope that helps. Video review by pbusardobelow also. He's a quite well respected reviewer in the vaping community:

 

[MattyB1503]

Yeah, actually you are right. I think the lowest resistance carto I've used with both Volt's 808 was rated at 2.4 - 2.6 ohms. So my bad, but that fact of the matter is V2's 808 (and I'm not recommending V2 by any means) puts out 4.2v under load. Doing a side by side using the same caromizers you will get more vapor from V2's battery; try it, I have. Granted, SI's kr808 batteries (or Volt) last considerably longer between charges. Just my opinion man, they both leave a lot to be desired.

 

[MattyB1503]

Kiwivap sounds like a like Smokeless Image sale rep, hahah.

To be honest six one half dozen the other.

If you're set on a kr808 just keep three things in mind:
-Price
-mAh rating on the battery
-And Phil (or Pbusardo) still recommends Smoov over Volt, Joking. No, once you have your kit you can shop around for cartomizers. As long as they are 808 threading they will mate with the battery.

If you want PM me. I have three unopened boxes of Boge empty standard resistance catomizers sitting on my shelf. been there for prob 2 months. mail you a box.

 

[kiwivap]

Kiwivap sounds like a like Smokeless Image sale rep, hahah.

Well I'm not. I just like to give the info and present it well. I don't have any company affiliations at all. You could try talking to me rather than about me, since I responded to you before. I've had a really good run from their pvs and will recommend them every time.

 

[Plumes.91]

I've heard good things about SMOOV batteries from some people that are pretty popular in the e-cig world, the guys at VAPETV recommened them in a vapeTV chat over VOLTS once. I'm not sure how to take that though? Like, are they even different? Whats the difference between the two anyway? Whatever. I recommend volts because they are regulated at 3.7v and they rock. Short battery life, comparable to other cig-alikes like 510, especially the smaller Volts, but at least they are regulated at 3.7v so you can use 2.5 cartos, even 2 cartos every once in a while. (although I cant really recommend that because the 2 ohm cartos can trip the safety switch and possibly break your batteries after a while) Cool little batteries though. Volts are great. Any1 know the dif in volt and smoov? It looks like the V2s or X2s or whatever are pretty similar to eGo batteries, no? Does Altcig manufacture the V2s themselves? I need to reread this thread to see if any of this was already discussed lol.

 

[kiwivap]

Short battery life, comparable to other cig-alikes like 510, especially the smaller Volts, but at least they are regulated at 3.7v so you can use 2.5 cartos, even 2 cartos every once in a while.

Actually, no, they don't have a shorter battery life than 510 minis. The 65mm Volts are 280 mah - which is comparable to a lot of other minis. The 78mm Volts are 320 mah. They last me about 2.5 hours of constant vaping, longer if I don't vape them heavily.
Volts are optimal between 2.5-2.8 ohms I've found.

 

[Plumes.91]

No I didn't mean shorter battery life guys, just short battery life. Comparable to 510 batteries. I used to get maybe 2 hours out of my 510s if I remember right, and I think I was using 2.5 or 3 ohm cartos. So naturally Volts will have better or comparable battery life to a 510 since they have better mAh, although with 3.7v regulated its going to stunt their battery life, right? So they sort of even-out. They are bigger, with more mAh, but putting out more volts/amps evens it out. They still have better life AND better voltage than the 510s. I really don't recommend 510s for anything, unless you want to pick up 1 or 2 just to have for on airplanes or at a bar to avoid weird looks haha. but does anyone know what brand the V2's or X2's or whatever from Altcig is? Who makes those? Haven't hear of them till now.

 

[georgetown18]

Honestly, and this is just from personal experiences I would suggest just getting a couple ego batteries and a tank like the vivi nova or a smoktech DCT tank. This will give you a much longer vaping time before changing batteries or changing cartos. Thus was a huge downfall for me.with the v2's that I started with. In the 2 weeks I spent using the v2 I only spent one day not smoking an analog and that is only because I could have one battery charging while I was vaping with the other since it was a day off work. I completey kicked analogs as soon as my ego batteries got here in the mail. It's been a month and a half and I honestly didn't even try that hard to quit. One 650 mah ego battery will last me through about a half hour before work, 2 15 minute breaks, a half hour lunch break, and around an hour after work. And I understand wanting the smaller size, but the ego isn't really that big of a setup and after a couple days of use you will feel completely comfortable with it.

So volt or v2? My vote is ego.

 

[georgetown18]

No I didn't mean shorter battery life guys, just short battery life. Comparable to 510 batteries. I used to get maybe 2 hours out of my 510s if I remember right, and I think I was using 2.5 or 3 ohm cartos. So naturally Volts will have better or comparable battery life to a 510 since they have better mAh, although with 3.7v regulated its going to stunt their battery life, right? So they sort of even-out. They are bigger, with more mAh, but putting out more volts/amps evens it out. They still have better life AND better voltage than the 510s. I really don't recommend 510s for anything, unless you want to pick up 1 or 2 just to have for on airplanes or at a bar to avoid weird looks haha. but does anyone know what brand the V2's or X2's or whatever from Altcig is? Who makes those? Haven't hear of them till now.

V2 and volt are pretty much brands like blu. More of those companies that say that one carto is equivalent to a pack of smokes and sell starter kits with two 510 batts some cartos and q charger for 60-100 bucks
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[kiwivap]

Thus was a huge downfall for me.with the v2's that I started with. In the 2 weeks I spent using the v2 I only spent one day not smoking an analog and that is only because I could have one battery charging while I was vaping with the other since it was a day off work.

I agree with you George on battery time. If you can use an ego at work it's great. I have been using my X2 (ego size) at work. Not every situation suits and ego and a vivi though. I have some places I have to go during the week for work and I really can't rock up with anything like that in those places. So part of it is the form factor and how my company is reflected. I use both - the Volt and the X2, which is ego size. I use the Volts when I go to other places for work.
I think it's a good idea to have both sizes really.
Also - the vivis are great, but some people have a learning curve, and they are, well, tankish. So I recommend getting some cartomizers as well. Having a couple of options can save on frustration, and give the form factor some-one may want in different situations.

 

[kiwivap]

V2 and volt are pretty much brands like blu. More of those companies that say that one carto is equivalent to a pack of smokes and sell starter kits with two 510 batts some cartos and q charger for 60-100 bucks
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I disagree with you there. Have you checked out Volts or used them? They are not like Blu at all. Quite a lot of people left Blu and are quite happy with Volts. Smokeless Image don't make those sort of claims on their site either. They have a starter kit at $30. They are a registered supplier on ECF and have a good reputation here.

 

[Plumes.91]

yeah no, Volts aren't like 510s or Blus. Volts are regulated at 3.7v so they have more voltage than 510s (Blus as well) but I'm wondering who actually manufactures V2s and X2s? Because I can see that the X2s are eGo size, but they are not eGo batteries. They aren't joye and they can't be smoktech... they arent bauway either right? So I'm wondering who makes the V2s and X2s. I know volts are just KR808ds so I already get that. I'm wondering where this V2 and X2 line is coming from? Volts are great devices georgetown, and altsmoke is a great company, they sell the best pipe mod on the market, the Silver Bullet? The Alpha and Omega? Good peeps. Trying to figure out where the V2 and X2 are coming from though.

 

[georgetown18]

I disagree with you there. Have you checked out Volts or used them? They are not like Blu at all. Quite a lot of people left Blu and are quite happy with Volts. Smokeless Image don't make those sort of claims on their site either. They have a starter kit at $30. They are a registered supplier on ECF and have a good reputation here.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to knock on smokeless image. I'm vaping some of their juice right now. I never really researched much into the volt itself. I just saw what the volt was and put it in the same category as other minis I guess. Yet again I'm sorry no disrespect again to SI. Im a repeat customer because I love their 555