voltage meter and cherry bomb

[Dysxelic_Vepar]

Glad your device is working. You should always make sure everything is in place and looks good before using the device. I don't own one, but the covered copper strap seems like a both good and bad idea. Good for connection, but bad if not taken care of. Keep your bottom neg contacts snug, they don't have to be too tight.

Try not to cause unwanted loosening of the copper parts either. Make sure all your stuff gets cleaned and if you do use the noalox, make sure your application is light and clean.

And don't be afraid to take the batteries out. Actually you should if you don't think you'll be using it for a while and it's sitting in your bag, at least you know it's off.

Bad Ninja has got the right idea and attitude about it.

I agree 100%. I ended up with a vaporshark so now this mod just has a place on my dresser with the others. Still a great one to show off on outings with buds though. I ended up painting mine with leftover primer and ford blue car paint. Now it looks exactly like my car. Glistening in the sun.

the CB I is like a rose. Beautiful but without proper handling, you are gonna hurt yourself.

 

[Bad Ninja]

LOL! When I was a little kid I always thought it was funny seeing men with big bellys and their pants half off their butts. Now my children get to have the same laugh.

I must be too old to understand style.

Lol
I never knew being a plumber was THAT cool.
Apparently they are SUPER AWESOME cool because every kid in the country used to wear their pants just like Harry, our local plumber.

Now they wear their younger sister's pants that are two sizes too small.

 

[Signmaker]

The Cherry Bomber flaw isnt operator error, it's a design flaw. A piece of conductive material touching the surface of a device shouldnt cause a short. No other product in any market behaves that way. Even the very batteries we use all come with insulating wraps on the body to protect from this sort of thing.

If they come out with a V2 with a switched ground chassis, I'll be all over it, cause it's one nifty looking box.

 

[Bad Ninja]

The Cherry Bomber flaw isnt operator error, it's a design flaw. A piece of conductive material touching the surface of a device shouldnt cause a short. No other product in any market behaves that way. Even the very batteries we use all come with insulating wraps on the body to protect from this sort of thing.

If they come out with a V2 with a switched ground chassis, I'll be all over it, cause it's one nifty looking box.

Only someone who doesn't understand the design would have an issue.

It's not designed for everyone, but that doesn't make it flawed.
It's not a one-size-fits-all world.

Avoid shorting the CB with a piece of metal and you'll be fine.

Avoid sticking metal into light sockets, and wall outlets too.

Some things in life require critical thinking to use safely.

I'll agree if you aren't experienced enough to use it safely this mod isn't for you.

 

[Signmaker]

I understand the design. It's not space magic. And you cant cover up a flaw by claiming it's intentionally made that way for a higher clientelle. That's like saying the Pinto didnt have a flawed fuel tank design, it was just designed for people who dont get into accidents, and people who burned alive just werent experienced enough to drive it safely.

 

[Bad Ninja]

I understand the design. It's not space magic. And you cant cover up a flaw by claiming it's intentionally made that way for a higher clientelle. That's like saying the Pinto didnt have a flawed fuel tank design, it was just designed for people who dont get into accidents, and people who burned alive just werent experienced enough to drive it safely.

Interesting analogy.
The Pinto MYTH has been debunked many times since the 1970s.
You see, almost every car on the road had the fuel tank located in the exact same place.
The design was obviously NOT flawed.
Politics and money were the root of the entire case.
In 1991 Gary Schwartz wrote a paper for Rutgers Law Review entitled " The Myth of the Ford Pinto".
It showed the car was no more prone to fire than any other model, and that the claims were exaggerated or flat out lies.
Out of over 2 million pintos sold ( not counting the mustang II, which was the exact same platform) there were only 27 accidents involving fire.
Actually a lower figure than other models making the pinto "more safe" than most cars sold at the time.

Just because someone doesn't understand how to operate a device, doesn't mean it's a flawed design.

 

[hambone0424]

Interesting analogy.
The Pinto MYTH has been debunked many times since the 1970s.
You see, almost every car on the road had the fuel tank located in the exact same place.
The design was obviously NOT flawed.
Politics and money were the root of the entire case.
In 1991 Gary Schwartz wrote a paper for Rutgers Law Review entitled " The Myth of the Ford Pinto".
It showed the car was no more prone to fire than any other model, and that the claims were exaggerated or flat out lies.
Out of over 2 million pintos sold ( not counting the mustang II, which was the exact same platform) there were only 27 accidents involving fire.
Actually a lower figure than other models making the pinto "more safe" than most cars sold at the time.

Just because someone doesn't understand how to operate a device, doesn't mean it's a flawed design.

Hey ninja thanks for all the help im vaping on the cb now but im havin trouble with my button at times it seems like it doesnt want to fire is this a connection issue

 

[duc916]

Hey ninja thanks for all the help im vaping on the cb now but im havin trouble with my button at times it seems like it doesnt want to fire is this a connection issue

All I know about this mod is from that video posted earlier, and I'm going with arcing on the button creating an insulating layer. Too small of a contact area caused by a flat button pushing against a cylindrical 510 base. The switch is a lazy $hyt design. To use a car metaphor, with that switch, this mod is like a Ford GT with Pinto rims and tires. Look for black residue where they meet, and clean it off as best you can. When that gets old, pick up a Cigreen ABS V2 and be done with that nonsense.

 

[BababooeyHTJ]

So the outside of the 510 pin is positive?!

 

[duc916]

So the outside of the 510 pin is positive?!

Yup, the whole body of the atty is positive just waiting to be grounded. Hard to defend an oversight like that in this day and age.

On the bright side, when your switch starts giving you trouble, just wrap some aluminum foil around your thumb and voila - backup switch!

 

[BababooeyHTJ]

Yup, the whole body of the atty is positive just waiting to be grounded. Hard to defend an oversight like that in this day and age.

There is a reason why the outside of a lamp socket is the neutral

 

[hogheadv]

First off the switch is not a flat button pushing against a cylindrical base. the ring the button pushes against has a flat spot on it for the switch to contact. Second the whole body of the box and atty is not positive, it is negative just like every other mech mod. Only difference is the battery is always in contact with the body and the 510 is not in contact with the body, so the switch connects the 510 to the body rather than the battery to the body as in other mech mods.

 

[duc916]

the switch connects the 510 to the body rather than the battery to the body as in other mech mods.

Right, that makes sense... and that's its undoing.

 

[DaveSignal]

What kind of Batman-grade belts are you folks wearing to be able to pocket this beast?

My full copper clone is so heavy that I don't really take it out with me.... Its also a perfectly machined box made out of solid copper and so I am quite careful to keep it in perfect condition.

So the outside of the 510 pin is positive?!

No. Battery postitive runs to the center pin, like the majority of mods. This part is just not switched. The switch closes the circuit by connecting the metal box to the outside of the 510 (box is directly connected to the battery negative via screws).
It is intentionally designed this way. I love it.

By the way, if you put any copper mod in your pocket with metal things, you will destroy your nice mod with scratches and gashes. Its a soft metal. But some mods are intentionally made out of copper for people who take care of their mods and want the hardest hitting mechs around.

 

[BababooeyHTJ]

Ahh, that makes more sense. Thanks

 

[Bad Ninja]

Yup, the whole body of the atty is positive just waiting to be grounded. Hard to defend an oversight like that in this day and age.

On the bright side, when your switch starts giving you trouble, just wrap some aluminum foil around your thumb and voila - backup switch!

OMG.
The body is not positive. It's negative.

I think the main problem is that you don't really understand the device you are bashing.

I have noticed from posts here that seems to be a running theme amongst the CB haters.

It's okay, it's not for you, but I understand how my gear works and have zero problems. I have been using the CBs every day since they dropped.

Then again, I was never one of those kids that shoved a screwdriver into a wall outlet either.
I'm smart like that

 

[duc916]

It's not really the point, whether the body is negative or positive. It's like debating conventional flow vs electron flow. The end result is the same. In this case it's a disaster waiting to happen when you can fire it with the change in your pocket. Someone who has enough good sense not to carry a bare 18650 battery with a bunch of change in his pocket wouldn't necessarily know that safety-wise, this device is equivalent to doing just that.

 

[DaveSignal]

It's not really the point, whether the body is negative or positive. It's like debating conventional flow vs electron flow. The end result is the same. In this case it's a disaster waiting to happen when you can fire it with the change in your pocket. Someone who has enough good sense not to carry a bare 18650 battery with a bunch of change in his pocket wouldn't necessarily know that safety-wise, this device is equivalent to doing just that.

change in your pocket is not going to fire this mod. But anyone who cares about their metal mech mods shouldn't be putting them in pockets with anything that can scratch and damage the metal.

Its a mech mod. It will fire at any resistance. There are no circuit boards or electronic chips. There is no protection. It has extremely low voltage drop, due to the design. It functions best with carefully wrapped, low resistance coil builds. It is made entirely of conductive metal. Mine is copper. Copper requires regular care.
If you are trying to state that some noob who has never vaped before should not be using this mod, then you are correct. But that is not the intended market.

 

[Bad Ninja]

It's not really the point, whether the body is negative or positive. It's like debating conventional flow vs electron flow. The end result is the same. In this case it's a disaster waiting to happen when you can fire it with the change in your pocket. Someone who has enough good sense not to carry a bare 18650 battery with a bunch of change in his pocket wouldn't necessarily know that safety-wise, this device is equivalent to doing just that.

All mechanicals have a risk, as they have no built in safety features.
This is exactly why we buy mechanicals.
This mod isn't for noobs, or careless (carefree) vapers.
It's made for enthusiasts, and experienced users. But then again all mech mods really are.

Dual battery box mods aren't for inexperienced users.

Every product isn't for everyone.
Everyone doesn't deserve a trophy.
Life requires using your brain to stay safe.

Life has risks. You Lower them by educating yourself before acting on impulse.

Educated, experienced vapers won't have issue with the CB.
Noobs that just want to toss a mod in their pocket and the "Cloudz Bro!" crowd may have issues but that's another thread altogether.

 

[gin828]

I here this design flaw BS all the time.....Get over it. You just got to be smart enough not to pocket it with metal in your pocket or even better yet....keep metal away from the atty!!!

Really.... Are small paper clips a design flaw? You can stick them in an outlet...

I agree with BadNinja Educate yourself on what you are buying and be responsible enough to use it.