Voltage versus Wattage

[Katya]

Oh, I agree, Bad and Atty! Most of us who have been vaping for a while started with set voltages and very limited choices of resistances in our atties. We all did well. When variable voltage was first introduced we thought it was the best thing since sliced bread--and it was, in many ways. But it has always been about wattage--just the technology was lagging...

The very first car I drove was equipped with a stick shift. I had to learn how to use it. But I switched to automatic transmission immediately. I liked to smoke (and drink coffee) while driving... Progress is good.

 

[Baditude]

VW is vastly superior, for returning to favor Output wattages, for each juice you have.

I beg to differ. If you read my post a few above this one, you'll understand it is not superior for everyone, probably not for most vapors. The vast majority of vapors are using only single voltage devices or variable voltage devices, and are getting along just fine.

 

[AttyPops]

Different juies need different wattages. Also, different delivery devices use the heat more efficiently than others. So...

VW is handy if you A) Always swap juices that "like" the same wattage and at the same time
B) Use the same style delivery device.

Then you can swap juices all day long. But if you swap different stuff and end up adjusting the wattage anyway...it is much less important. So it varies by "style" too.

 

[AttyPops]

Agreed Kat. I wouldn't toss a mod that has only VV though. If you have VW as an option an like it...fine! I'm not anti-VW or anything.

 

[Katya]

Agreed Kat. I wouldn't toss a mod that has only VV though. If you have VW as an option an like it...fine! I'm not anti-VW or anything.

Bhahahaha... My best mod doesn't have VW, as you know. It's still my best mod--in terms of performance, accuracy, and reliability. I wouldn't dream of tossing it.

 

[Recon Number 54]

Agreed Kat. I wouldn't toss a mod that has only VV though. If you have VW as an option an like it...fine! I'm not anti-VW or anything.

Agreed. I am not anti-anything, especially if the outcome is someone enjoying their vape and staying away from burning analogs.

Even a simple twist-style battery with no voltage markings, the vaper can (and should) adjust according to their tastes in order to best enjoy the experience. I personally can see why folks would prefer one method over another, I know that I have settings and methods that I like (and have personal reasons for liking what I like), but I wouldn't dream of telling someone that "there's only one right way to do this and it's MY way".

That would be (at best) silly or (at worst) insulting.

 

[Asbestos4004]

I have both ...I have a VV mod and a VV/VW mod. I'm one of the one VW does nothing for. I'm in the habit of setting the power where I like it every time I put something on top. Hey, I have that kinda time...like 5 seconds or so. I won't mention brand names but I bet you can figure it out...I use my VV mod everyday, all day. Why? Because I trust it and it always works perfectly. Sometimes I use the other one at home....I use it in VW mode thinking someday I'll see why everybody loves VW. That day still hasn't come...I still adjust depending on what I'm vaping. I have absolutely nothing against VW...but as Baditude said, it's not superior for everyone. It's not that I don't understand it, I just don't need or want it. To each, their own. I do crack up every time I see someone post about one of the more popular mods...they say "$200 and it doesn't even have VW???? NO WAY!!!" Well, I, for one, am glad it doesn't.

 

[Katya]

Agreed. I am not anti-anything, especially if the outcome is someone enjoying their vape and staying away from burning analogs.

Even a simple twist-style battery with no voltage markings, the vaper can (and should) adjust according to their tastes in order to best enjoy the experience. I personally can see why folks would prefer one method over another, I know that I have settings and methods that I like (and have personal reasons for liking what I like), but I wouldn't dream of telling someone that "there's only one right way to do this and it's MY way".

That would be (at best) silly or (at worst) insulting.

I agree, but please remember that we (I) are trying to answer OP's question,

I'm coming to understand VV, but have absolutely no idea about VW. What are the pros and cons?

We should try to bear that in mind; the OP has a VW device and asked how to use the VW vs. VV settings. This conversation should be about how to use VW and not so much about "I don't need it."

Methinks.

 

[Asbestos4004]

I agree, but please remember that we (I) are trying to answer OP's question,

We should try to bear that in mind; the OP has a VW device and asked how to use the VW vs. VV settings. This conversation should be about how to use VW and not so much about "I don't need it."

Methinks.

dang, you're right....now I feel like a total d-bag!

To the OP.....Pros - you can find your sweet spot and theoretically leave it there regardless of your topper. Ease of operation.
Cons - can't really think of any unless you're sweet spot isn't consistent with your juices.

Sorry I got off topic.

 

[vapero]

variable Wattage is a next step in technology advancement to variable voltage, you can fine grain adjust just like the voltage but it is a "smart technology" and self adjust to your liking throughout different devices.

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

When I first started, I preferred variable wattage, and for the obvious reasons already mentioned. After vaping for a while, and using both, it doesn't matter to me what I use, as long as I can adjust it. Somewhere along the line, my brain accepted the fact that it just doesn't matter and can make whatever adjustments are required under any and all circumstances, without even thinking. What I cannot live without is an Ohm meter/reader. That makes my head explode now. Give me either one, makes zero difference to me, but please include an Ohm meter. So, welcome MVP 2.0 to the fold. Now I just love that thing!

 

[Katya]

dang, you're right....now I feel like a total d-bag!

To the OP.....Pros - you can find your sweet spot and theoretically leave it there regardless of your topper. Ease of operation.
Cons - can't really think of any unless you're sweet spot isn't consistent with your juices.

Sorry I got off topic.

Sorry Asbestos--my post wasn't even directed at you--we were typing at the same time... Honestly...

It's just that those kinds of threads tend to veer wildly off off topic and become unnecessarily contentious and possibly confusing to OP.

I use both vv and vw and they are both fine... Really.

 

[Recon Number 54]

I agree, but please remember that we (I) are trying to answer OP's question,

We should try to bear that in mind; the OP has a VW device and asked how to use the VW vs. VV settings. This conversation should be about how to use VW and not so much about "I don't need it."

Methinks.

You are absolutely right. I noticed that there were more than a few good posts that answered the OP's original question and that the topic was proceeding (as these discussion almost inevitably do) from the "what's the difference and pros/cons?" to the unasked followup question of "which is better?" And when that question gets asked either outright or by the progression of discussion, I do believe that it's a valid point to make that "whatever you as an individual work out to work best for you" (which as we know can sometimes devolve into a shouting match of "my way is the best way"). Which is why I mentioned earlier that whether mode a vaper sets their VV/VW mod into, when they adjust voltage or wattage, they are actually changing both in order to comply with Ohm's Law. Which (IMO) is why the arguments over personal preferences are kind of silly.

So on topic and to the OP? If you have a VV/VW? You have a flexible device that will allow you to easily and safely try both methods, find out which variable that you prefer to control/adjust (wattage or voltage) and know that your device (and the laws of physics) are taking care of the other numbers for you. If you're in VW mode? Adjust it up or down to find your best vape, and you're good to go!

 

[Shopan]

Yes indeed...The MVP2 is what I would tell any new vaper to get now, after trying going with the 3.0 (on your Suggestion) but with the MVP2's battery life and relative value with the clearos coming with the Kits...The ohm meter is Nice to check and see what my coil is up to on a RBA and I Love the watts setting and can not adjust the volts correctly for juices quick enough...so set it and forget it on Watts

 

[tearose50]

I'm coming to understand VV, but have absolutely no idea about VW. What are the pros and cons? Which is better? I just got an iTaste VTR. I'm running the iClear30S that comes with it and a Protank 2 both with 2.2 resistance at 4.2 volts. What would I or should I set the watts at, or does that only matter if I have it in VW mode? I would really like to understand this better. Please Help!

You would set the watts/power at 8 if you choose to use VW mode. (ohms law calculator's are great)

VV/VW devices let the user choose if they want to set their power level by Voltage or Wattage/Power -- not both. Perhaps the biggest "Pro" of these type of devices is that you can choose either Mode.

A big Pro of both Modes are that you can change the heat level of your vaper to your own tastes via the mod itself.

Downside of VTR -- VV is probably a better selection, as one can only change the watts in .5 increments and VV is .l increments.

Which is better? Both produce the same result. If you like 8 watts it's just as easy to set as knowing you like a 4.2 volts on a 2.2 ohm atty. And, if for some reason one wants that vape a bit cooler, just turn it down with which ever mode one is using. Or for warmer, just turn it up a notch.

 

[vapero]

You would set the watts/power at 8 if you choose to use VW mode. (ohms law calculator's are great)

VV/VW devices let the user choose if they want to set their power level by Voltage or Wattage/Power -- not both. Perhaps the biggest "Pro" of these type of devices is that you can choose either Mode.

A big Pro of both Modes are that you can change the heat level of your vaper to your own tastes via the mod itself.

Downside of VTR -- VV is probably a better selection, as one can only change the watts in .5 increments and VV is .l increments.

Which is better? Both produce the same result. If you like 8 watts it's just as easy to set as knowing you like a 4.2 volts on a 2.2 ohm atty. For some reason one want's that vape a bit cooler, just turn it down with which ever mode one is using. Or for warmer, just turn it up a notch.

I've read somewhere here, don't remember where or if it isn't true but the .5 increments in wattage are more less the same as the .1 increments on volts, thats why you have a much bigger wattage range than voltage so the point on it being more accurate I think is wrong

 

[AttyPops]

I've read somewhere here, don't remember where or if it isn't true but the .5 increments in wattage are more less the same as the .1 increments on volts, thats why you have a much bigger wattage range than voltage so the point on it being more accurate I think is wrong

using a 2.0 ohm atomizer and 3.5, 3.6 and 3.7 volts we have
6.125 watts
6.48 watts (.355 watt increment)
6.845 watts (.365 watt increment).

so .5 w is too big compared to .1 v's change in wattage of .35 ish (varies a bit due to voltage being squared in the calc)

tearose50 is essentially correct. However, it may be a case of "it doesn't matter much...close enough".

 

[vapero]

using a 2.0 ohm atomizer and 3.5, 3.6 and 3.7 volts we have
6.125 watts
6.48 watts (.355 watt increment)
6.845 watts (.365 watt increment).

so .5 w is too big compared to .1 v's change in wattage of .35 ish (varies a bit due to voltage being squared in the calc)

tearose50 is essentially correct. However, it may be a case of "it doesn't mater much...close enough".

Thanks for correcting me, it's always good to learn something new

 

[GREEN ZOMBIE]

OMG, This thread is cracking me up, From stick shifts to people imploding...

Sorry, Not laughing at anyone just love the metaphors, There are already some good answers here so I will move on now...

Awesome thread OP...

 

[AttyPops]

Well, I didn't do it to correct you personally, just keeping info accurate so we all learn. Thanks for being a good sport about it.