Want to give High wattage builds a fair shake

[bombastinator]

So I’m an oldie that started on cigalikes and have been winding coils since before there were mech mods. I generally vape about 20-30w on single wire coils and like it fine.

I’ve made what I thought were builds to deal with high wattage, generally double coils in the .3 range and seen very little if any improvement. The whole thing kind of strikes me as a crock given my current knowledge. That doesn’t mean it IS a crock though. I’ve got a releaux 2/3 200w and any number of RDAs and RTAs that should handle a high wattage build fine. I guess what I need is a coil recipe that really takes advantage of these high wattages and shows me what they can do. I’ve got some 22/36 SS clapton wire and a selection of various straight kanthal wires and filaments.
Please tell me what I should build to showcase the value of high wattage. ‘Cause right now I’m just not seeing it.

 

[AzPlumber]

Here you go bomb, a little tricky to wick but it can take some wattage.

 

[petrotech]

my go to "high wattage build" build is a parallel 26 gauge SS coil. 3.5 mm ID and 5 wraps. comes in at .4ish ohms. I use a mech, so that's 35ish to 45ish watts.

but truthfully, I only build that and hit it every so often. my ADV is a simple 1.3 ohm spaced coil with 29 gauge kanthal. lol.

 

[listopencil]

The only advantage of higher Wattage builds is creating a vape experience that caters to your tastes. If you don't care for the experience then there is no advantage.

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

Define "high wattage." For me, anything over 50 is "high." In my Battlestar RTA, I have twin 26ga SS316L single wire coils, 10 wraps on a 3mm ID. The build resistance is 0.40 Ohms. Initial wattage is set to 55.0 and temp is set to 420 F. Airflow on this tank is about 2/3 open.

That's no cloud monster, but it is a very satisfying vape.

 

[bombastinator]

Here you go bomb, a little tricky to wick but it can take some wattage.

I dunno. Wombats have an unfortunate history with barb wire

 

[bombastinator]

Define "high wattage." For me, anything over 50 is "high." In my Battlestar RTA, I have twin 26ga SS316L single wire coils, 10 wraps on a 3mm ID. The build resistance is 0.40 Ohms. Initial wattage is set to 55.0 and temp is set to 420 F. Airflow on this tank is about 2/3 open.

That's no cloud monster, but it is a very satisfying vape.

Yeah me too. That’s the thing. I can’t seem to make a really high wattage wattage coil that has anything on the kind of coil you describe, but there ARE people that build them and claim they’re better so I’m wondering how it’s done. I don’t want to assume it’s all BS without giving it a really solid try.

 

[bombastinator]

The only advantage of higher Wattage builds is creating a vape experience that caters to your tastes. If you don't care for the experience then there is no advantage.

I agree, but how do I know I’ll hate it? The coils I’ve made running at super high wattage make only fractionally more cloud than medium (30-40w).

Is there anyone here building these high wattage coils? What kind of coils are you building?

 

[listopencil]

I agree, but how do I know I’ll hate it? The coils I’ve made running at super high wattage make only fractionally more cloud than medium (30-40w).

Is there anyone here building these high wattage coils? What kind of coils are you building?

Oh, no, I'm not saying you'll hate it. I played with higher Wattage set ups and had fun goofing around with clouds. But that didn't satisfy my smoking urge and I went back to lower Wattage MTL vaping. I'm saying that whatever style that you enjoy and keeps you off of the smokes is the one for you.

 

[vapdivrr]

Seems I'm close to your style, 20 to 25 watts, rebuildable rta's mtl...I don't or haven't tried many hi wsttage builds, but when I did, it was in a dripper or rdta that had the af to accommodate. Maybe your current low wattage tanks have that, but if not, maybe there's not enough air for the higher wattages. ..I had tried 24g single coil builds at like 50 watts and the flavor just wasn't there. Besides that, there really was no major increase in vapor, so I didn't see the point. I think perhaps the only way hi watt vaping makes a difference is to change from mtl, to dtl and decrease nic , maybe by dtl, you can suck more out and get more vapor. There again, I didn’t change because of TH, with lower nic and all that AF, way to mellow for me and that sound...that sucking sound is kind of annoying

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[Coastal Cowboy]

Airflow is critical, and at least for me direct lung hits are a necessity. Without a lot of air moving across the coil, it quickly gets too hot. You also need larger diameter coils, because you need more cotton, because you need more juice, because your larger diameter coil made with thicker wire has more surface area.

I can vape that Battlestar build all day, but I don't because that sucker is thirsty. I'm honestly just as satisfied with mod-womping wattage levels in the 40-ish neighborhood. I didn't quit smoking until I found that.

 

[Fog n Vape]

Tryed some claptons a vape shop gifted me but with a Kanger single battery mod the long ramp up was frustrating and the heat was too much when it finally kicked in, +50 watts it was awhile ago so foggy memory, so went back quickly to 28g kanthal around. 7 ohms in my Velocity RDA between 17.5-22.5w
The claptons did bring out the apple in my apple pie recipe so I may revisit them one day, maybe, if I remember or get around to it.

 

[bombastinator]

Oh, no, I'm not saying you'll hate it. I played with higher Wattage set ups and had fun goofing around with clouds. But that didn't satisfy my smoking urge and I went back to lower Wattage MTL vaping. I'm saying that whatever style that you enjoy and keeps you off of the smokes is the one for you.

Yeah I get that. No worries. I got half a dozen mods though not including mechs. I can mess around with at least one of them and see what all the noise is about though.

 

[Asbestos4004]

I'd rather have quiet and smooth. That's why I run hurricane 1.3's, kayfun 5's and Nardas....all with the same ol 24ga SS round wire builds. Anything else seems like work.

 

[BoogaWu]

Fast ramp up time had been my reason for going lower ohms and higher power. Low gauge wire can't go high power generally, using 22 gauge twisted duals at 80ish watts ramps like a cig for quick puffs like I did on a cig. But then battery life sucks and flavor is ehh. .3 stainless spaced duals at 25 has been my sweet spot for a while.

 

[Mr. Relentless]

Slow ramp up and battery killers for a little more cloud and flavor and heat. I got some juggernauts the other day and took them out after an hour. I like my plain 22g 3mm or regular claptons.

 

[VHRB2014]

My favorite K coils for along time were: 22g, 6-7 wraps, 3mm id. Usually runs about .20 to .25 depending on variables, great action hit (snap, crackle n pop) with a nice medium heat, call it warmish.

Iv moved on to stainless in a lot of my RDA`s, but I still have quite a few of these that Iv made no effort to change out, they still work real good for me.

BOL.

 

[halbgott]

I've gone back to low watts during the day. On rda for morning and night. High for me is 40-70. I like claptons but recently tried ni chrome fused claptons that were included in an rda. The quick ramp up paired with 3mm and above seems very different. I'd like to look further into it. The last time I used ni chrome was in cartomizers I think.

 

[NicotineRush]

Gotta love the marketing people.

 

[Wraith504]

A dual 24-26 awg ss/kanthal build can perform wonderfully at both high wattage and mod womping type wattages depending on what atomizer it is in. Put it in an rda with a ton of airflow and crank the watts to blow massive rainmakers. Put it in an rta then run it at 40-50w preheat at 420/430 F. While blowing the clouds is fun, It doesnt necessarily equate to a more pleasurable experience IMO. I think my taste buds have come to realize that more air = more clouds = muted flavor.