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Hello, ckranz.
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My advise is go with an eGo kit.
Just google eGo kit.
 

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Wow, you are about to get so much great advice that it will make your head spin!

I can't tell you what is the absolute best solution, but I can tell you what has worked for me so far. I got an eGo kit with mega dual coil cartomizers to start with. This one-- eGo Mega Dual Coil Cartomizers from The Vapor Room is where I started (upgraded to the 1000mAh batteries). It may not be the absolute best price you can find, but it is a quality kit. You can spend more, you can spend less, but in my opinion, this is a good place to start. The eGo line is nice, because the threading on the batteries is one of the major industry standards, so you can try many different options as you start to experiment. For example, shortly after trying the original kit and realizing that vaping would work for me, I got a mini battery, a pretty purple battery, and a couple different kinds of clearomizers. The great thing is, I can mix and match any way I want.

Again, you are going to get tons of great advice, and I can't say that my advice is best, just that it totally worked for me! (ymmv)
 

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The previous posts aren't BAD suggestions, they're just not the best suggestions IMO. Instead of repeating myself a million times I wrote the Vaper's Handbook in an effort to help newbies and experts alike share my knowledge.

Click the link in my signature, and all the world of vaping will be at your fingertips.
From beginner to advanced, everything you need to know is in there. I wrote it for you.

P.S. the KGO is a piece of junk IMO (especially the ones from Hoosier). They die hard and fast, they have terrible airflow, and the only good thing that ever came out of owning them for me was that they allowed me to write a section on how to repair them.
 
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Hey there ckranz and welcome to ECF..

First congrats on your decision to change your life. You've taken the first step to reducing if not eliminating traditional tobacco and among friends here. Being new and as you know there a tons of products and many things to check into which should be your first step.

You don't want to rush the research phase of your journey too lightly. Many people here will quickly tell you they too made the decision to go with a vaping setup that ultimately did not do them justice, spending countless tens to hundreds of dollars. Many of the smaller form factor e-cigs out there, those that try to emulate the look, feel and size of a regular cigarette, sometimes simply don't work for most people (opinion) however many do have success with them. Consider those as a possible start towards something greater.

You'll have to first define your habit a bit more. Are you a pack a day smoker of Marlboro, Camel or even Roll Your Own or a more casual smoker having a few Lights, Ultra Lights at the club or bar? The next step, once you've defined the level of your habit, is to find a suitable delivery system that works for you. Sometimes this is easy, most times it's hard but have faith, stick with it and you'll find your ultimate setup.

What you need is simple and something I struggled with early on. To put it simply, all you need is a battery, a delivery system and finally ejuice/nic liquid. This sounds easy enough and in reality it is one you understand the various options of those 3 areas of e-cigs.

The battery simply allows for the delivery device to be activated, vaporizing the e juice so you can inhale the vapor. The bigger the battery, the longer it lasts. Batteries are rated as "mah" or "milliamps per hour" and roughly 1 mah = 1 hour so a 650 mah battery would roughly last you 6.5 hours of vaping. This of course is all variable and depends on your vaping style such as chain vaping, draw time, etc. It's a rough gauge but puts it into perspective for you. Also batteries come in 2 styles; fixed voltage and variable voltage (VV). All this means is on a fixed voltage battery you will get the voltage the manufacturer limits it to put out. In most e-cigs fixed voltage batteries are typically 3.2~3.7 volts. Variable voltage batteries have a method that allows you to choose the voltage you want and most typically can go 3.2 in upwards of 4.8 volts and even larger MOD's (modified devices) can go upwards of 5~6 volts. Variable Voltage and some upcoming Variable wattage (won't discuss here) are typically some of the most recommended batteries around simply for the ability to adjust the voltage depending upon application. More volts vaporize a warmer/hotter vape and some e juices either taste good, bad or better at variable voltages so having the ability to do so is a great thing to have.

Next you have the delivery system which is simply a device that you attach the battery that vaporizes the ejuice. These come in a variety of shapes, sizes and form factors. There are cartomizers, clearomizers, direct atomizers and even rebuildable/re-wickable devices that you build yourself after use. Every single delivery system has the same intent and that is to vaporize the e juice for you to inhale. These devices are simply the most important part to a good setup and it will take you some time to find what you like. There are many that are recommended and others that are avoided. The entire culture of e-cigs has been around for roughly 3-5 years and there are constant technological changes and new discoveries on how to vaporize ejuice differently, more effectively and more safely.

Last is the ejuice. This is the simple liquid of typically 3-5 ingredients that you inhale after the delivery system vaporizes it. I won't go into great detail about the ingredients but simply put you have a carrier portion, a nicotine portion and finally a flavoring portion (if you wish). E juice comes in various potencies anywhere from 0mg of nicotine in upwards of 24mg and even higher which is meant for dilution. If your a PAD smoker of heavy/harsh cigarettes you most likely will start in the 18mg to 24mg range but if your that causal smoker I referenced early on you may be more of a 8-12mg kinda vaper. There is a table of roughly what mg strength the various smoking habits gets you and I'll try to find it for you and link it but ultimately this is the vapor you inhale containing the nicotine. You'll have a plethora of flavors to choose from as well different levels of the base carrier for the nicotine. Some ejuice is thicker, some thinner. Some ejuice carries more flavor while others do not. It will be up to you to decide what you like and no two palettes are the same. What's good for me may certainly not be good for you.

So a battery, a delivery system and finally ejuice. That's it and when you break it down it's quite easy except for all of those options your finding for each of the 3 above. The best thing you can do is get your setup straight first which will take some trial and error but if you research and go with what works, for who you are and what your habit is, you'll find it gets easier and easier. I'm only about 2 months in and have found a great setup and keeps me from smoking entirely. You can too.

I too, like Titanium, would recommend an eGo setup. I would recommend 2 eGo Twists (100mah) with 2 Vivi Nova tank/clearomizers and some ejuice in the flavors you like at the mg strength you feel. This is the setup I'm working with now and other than purchasing new ejuice to restock, a bit of cleaning on the clearomizers and more time to research it's worked wonderfully for me.

Sorry this went long but it's so hard sometimes starting and I, as well many here, were in the same situation prior. I hope it helps you and if you ever need anything send me a PM or just post here because you will not, can not find a better place to ask questions and find the info you need!

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~Icky

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Forgot to add that with any battery you'll need a suitable way of charging it. Most kits and manufacturers have a their own designated battery chargers for their products. So just wanted to say that with the battery portion of your setup you'll need a suitable charger for said battery(ies).
 
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TO be honest I don't know where to start so many brands!!! Almost went with prosmoke now after looking around I'm lost?
Someone give me some good info on brands ect.. for someone new to get started. I'm a half to a pack a day newport smoker.
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Chris

hello chris, this is the kit i've been recommending as of recent:

VZ eGo-Dual Coil Cartomizer Passthrough 1000mAh Starter Kit - Stainless - E Cig : Joye eGo & eGo-T | Boge Leo | Cartomizers | E-Liquid | Electronic Cigarettes | eGo Tank

it includes two 1000 mAh batteries that should last you all day off charge, plus they are special passthrough batteries that can be vaped while on the charger, as well as a wall adapter, the usb chord, and even a carrying case..the kit includes two mega cartomizers, which you should probably buy a few more (you can get them on the same site in the link) as well as some juice (which you can of course also get at the link)...the cartomizers will hold ~4ml of juice, which will more than likely last you all day.

hope that helps, i genuinely feel like this is the best kit ever for a noob to get started on since the batteries are passthrough and easily last all day off charge as well, and has a nice price point as well....good luck out there.
 

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The bigger the battery, the longer it lasts. Batteries are rated as "mah" or "milliamps per hour" and roughly 1 mah = 1 hour so a 650 mah battery would roughly last you 6.5 hours of vaping"
I find a 650mAh battery lasts me 3 hours and I don't vape much.
Just because it has high MAH does not mean it has high battery life. EDIT: Yes it does, Im an idiot.
 
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I find a 650mAh battery lasts me 3 hours and I don't vape much.
Just because it has high MAH does not mean it has high battery life.

I Agree and while it depends on your style, the battery itself as well quality of said device it's a rough estimate. I think it could also be agreed upon that a 1000mah battery should last longer than a 650mah battery depending on voltage used and style of vaping. I found that my 1000mah twist lasts me roughly 8-10 hours and while I don't chain vape I do go through roughly 2-4mls per day with my Novas/Direct Dripping @ 3.8-4.2v.
 

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I Agree and while it depends on your style, the battery itself as well quality of said device it's a rough estimate. I think it could also be agreed upon that a 1000mah battery should last longer than a 650mah battery depending on voltage used and style of vaping. I found that my 1000mah twist lasts me roughly 8-10 hours and while I don't chain vape I do go through roughly 2-4mls per day with my Novas/Direct Dripping @ 3.8-4.2v.

1000 mAh will last longer...no should about that...lol.

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hello chris, this is the kit i've been recommending as of recent:

VZ eGo-Dual Coil Cartomizer Passthrough 1000mAh Starter Kit - Stainless - E Cig : Joye eGo & eGo-T | Boge Leo | Cartomizers | E-Liquid | Electronic Cigarettes | eGo Tank

it includes two 1000 mAh batteries that should last you all day off charge, plus they are special passthrough batteries that can be vaped while on the charger, as well as a wall adapter, the usb chord, and even a carrying case..the kit includes two mega cartomizers, which you should probably buy a few more (you can get them on the same site in the link) as well as some juice (which you can of course also get at the link)...the cartomizers will hold ~4ml of juice, which will more than likely last you all day.

hope that helps, i genuinely feel like this is the best kit ever for a noob to get started on since the batteries are passthrough and easily last all day off charge as well, and has a nice price point as well....good luck out there.


I don't like passthroughs with batteries, they're dangerous. They can explode because people tend to leave them plugged in and overcharging unattended. There are several stories of this happening on ECF. Two 1000mAh batteries should be able to get anyone through a day. I alternate mine, charging one every other day, and very rarely do I kill one in just one day (it usually takes a lot of alcohol to get me to that point). 2 batteries and a charger though isn't a backup. 3 batteries and 2 chargers is the beginning of a backup.

The eGo-C Twist is hands down the best and cheapest way to start. You have to go genuine JoyeTech (knockoffs are inferior - again, many horror stories on ECF) and that's gonna be Altsmoke.com as the cheapest source right now. A USB eGo charger is also necessary. Throw on a couple of Vivi Nova Minis and you're good to go. Unfortunately, Altsmoke doesn't sell them. The only place to get that particular combo is at Sweet-Vapes.com (and it costs more money for the eGo-C Twist batteries). I can't recommend you use them though because last time I had a problem with my order and they didn't even bother to respond to me. I give them an F as a supplier. F as in FAIL.

I recommend you avoid the eGo Vision Clearomizer (Stardust) because they are also fail. Want proof? I'll post it on my blog sooner or later, but the fact that Altsmoke sold out on replacement tubes for them should tell you that they crack like nobody's business. Boge Cartomizers USED to be the best, but now they are having issues of their own (bacon taste, and not the good kind - Chinese bacon).

These waters can be treacherous. It's best to read up and look before you leap. Thus, why I told you to read the Vaper's Handbook.
 

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Soooooo much great info my head is starting to spin.Thanks Keep it coming!!!

Liking the Joye 501 and Joye eGo-C (seems kinda big)?

Size matters.

The eGo-C Twist is about 1 inch wider than my hand. It's not that big. It gives you a good grip. Try a flashlight sized APV, that's big.
 

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Soooooo much great info my head is starting to spin.Thanks Keep it coming!!!

Liking the Joye 501 and Joye eGo-C (seems kinda big)?

the eGo devices are cigar sized, the ones I linked earlier are about exactly cigar length fully assembled...the twist as the others have mentioned would be about 6-8 inches long once you assemble one if using a 1000 mAh battery...and if you go with a mini like the joye 510...you may be upset with the performance as the battery will not last that long...as for the overall size dilemma...you say the eGo seems big, but many off us see it as a rather small unit when comparing to big battery mods....

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I don't like passthroughs with batteries, they're dangerous. They can explode because people tend to leave them plugged in and overcharging unattended. There are several stories of this happening on ECF. Two 1000mAh batteries should be able to get anyone through a day. I alternate mine, charging one every other day, and very rarely do I kill one in just one day (it usually takes a lot of alcohol to get me to that point). 2 batteries and a charger though isn't a backup. 3 batteries and 2 chargers is the beginning of a backup.

The eGo-C Twist is hands down the best and cheapest way to start. You have to go genuine JoyeTech (knockoffs are inferior - again, many horror stories on ECF) and that's gonna be Altsmoke.com as the cheapest source right now. A USB eGo charger is also necessary. Throw on a couple of Vivi Nova Minis and you're good to go. Unfortunately, Altsmoke doesn't sell them. The only place to get that particular combo is at Sweet-Vapes.com (and it costs more money for the eGo-C Twist batteries). I can't recommend you use them though because last time I had a problem with my order and they didn't even bother to respond to me. I give them an F as a supplier. F as in FAIL.

I recommend you avoid the eGo Vision Clearomizer (Stardust) because they are also fail. Want proof? I'll post it on my blog sooner or later, but the fact that Altsmoke sold out on replacement tubes for them should tell you that they crack like nobody's business. Boge Cartomizers USED to be the best, but now they are having issues of their own (bacon taste, and not the good kind - Chinese bacon).

These waters can be treacherous. It's best to read up and look before you leap. Thus, why I told you to read the Vaper's Handbook.

actually shoga, they do have twist kits at vapors choice, where I got mine from,I can confirm legit batteries.

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