Weak performance from VapeDroid C1D2

[steeledragon78]

So lately i have noticed a marked decline in the vape quality of my droid. Close to 3 weeks ago i began to find the TC to be increasingly weak and a marked decline in flavor from my ADV. In wattage mode it is fine, both for my tootlepuffer setups and my big air tanks; but TC has left me wanting.

I had wondered if perhaps the internal resistance had changed or possibly some other tomfoolery. but on 2 separate occasions the device analyzer results showed it to be working as it had previously.

I have tested this with different batteries and even another DNA75, the other mod having much better TC performance but being heavier than the droid. my builds have not changed, consistantly coming out to .4-.6 ohm 26awg ss316l builds. I normally vape this build between 360 and 375F, but have had to vape this at below 355F because it started burning both the juice and cotton. i have re-run the case analyzer this evening, but my current build is now weak and under-powered feeling. current build is a 28awg T1 @.24ohm.

i am wondering if anyone else has had a similar experience lately or if maybe i just need to retire this mod for tc and get a new 75c.

 

[bombastinator]

If it’s a problem with the board I read here somewhere that there’s a 1 year warranty on dna boards if that helps

 

[steeledragon78]

If it’s a problem with the board I read here somewhere that there’s a 1 year warranty on dna boards if that helps

it would, but i bought it in december of 2016.....

 

[stols001]

I don't have that mod, but it sounds like something electrical going on and you seem to have tested it pretty thoroughly. I don't know how good you are with electronics but you could try taking a look for any obvious suspects, like a lose wire somewhere, IDK. If your mod is out of warranty and you really love it, could contact the board maker and get an estimate on repair/replacement. It never hurts to ask, and some manufacturers will repair a product (sometimes even for free, like with the Jac B, for example) without any charge.

So it just never hurts to ask about it. I hope you get the situation resolved. Best of luck,

Anna

 

[ShowerHead]

it would, but i bought it in december of 2016.....

Contact Evolv.
I had an HCigar that was way out of warranty, did the same thing as yours.
Opened a ticket on their website, got an RMA number, less than a week to them back to me.
Paid shipping to Evolv. Nothing more.

It's another reason that I will buy DNA vs other chips.

 

[Steamer861]

316 SS isn't a very good TC wire for the DNA in general! Many have complained about the Anemic hit syndrome you are experiencing If indeed the atomizer analyzer in E-Scribe does not show a difference in resistance, it could very well just be your choice of wire
All thou it can very easily be caused by resistance fluctuation!
I would highly recommend SS430 instead for TC vaping on the DNA boards

 

[maibol]

316 SS isn't a very good TC wire for the DNA in general! Many have complained about the Anemic hit syndrome you are experiencing If indeed the atomizer analyzer in E-Scribe does not show a difference in resistance, it could very well just be your choice of wire
All thou it can very easily be caused by resistance fluctuation!
I would highly recommend SS430 instead for TC vaping on the DNA boards

this is very true i got a few dna 75 devices and is the same thing with them when you vape on SS316 some times work like a champ and some times suck im trying diferent wires now and it works much better

Sent from my X522 using Tapatalk

 

[Dubminer]

this is very true i got a few dna 75 devices and is the same thing with them when you vape on SS316 some times work like a champ and some times suck im trying diferent wires now and it works much better

Sent from my X522 using Tapatalk

That is really strange, all i use all day every day is SS316 L in TC on 4 DNA 60’s and 3 DNA 75’s. Flawless all the time for nearly two years. Do you slightly space the coils? Also what brand wire? All i use is Temco.

 

[Steamer861]

That is really strange, all i use all day every day is SS316 L in TC on 4 DNA 60’s and 3 DNA 75’s. Flawless all the time for nearly two years. Do you slightly space the coils? Also what brand wire? All i use is Temco.

Individual results may very, like yours. But it's very common to have problems in TC with 316 SS on DNA's

 

[maibol]

That is really strange, all i use all day every day is SS316 L in TC on 4 DNA 60’s and 3 DNA 75’s. Flawless all the time for nearly two years. Do you slightly space the coils? Also what brand wire? All i use is Temco.

i space them and im using UD 316l 26G

Sent from my X522 using Tapatalk

 

[Fidola13]

This is an interesting conversation because today was the 1st day I tried out the TC on a Therion DNA 75C. I’m using a 26g 316L spaced 6 wrap at .44 and I was startled at how “lame” the vape was especially compared to the same build on a q mini and Revenger X.

I decided to just use it on wattage for the moment since I didn’t have time to fiddle with it today. But I bought the darn thing specifically because of the DNA tc.

Unfortunately I don’t have any ss430 atm to test this out.

Kind of disappointing tbh.

 

[ShowerHead]

I never had luck with 316, but swapped to 430 years ago.
If you don’t mind 28ga, Unkammen has good wire.
I like 27ga and use zivipf

 

[maibol]

This is an interesting conversation because today was the 1st day I tried out the TC on a Therion DNA 75C. I’m using a 26g 316L spaced 6 wrap at .44 and I was startled at how “lame” the vape was especially compared to the same build on a q mini and Revenger X.

I decided to just use it on wattage for the moment since I didn’t have time to fiddle with it today. But I bought the darn thing specifically because of the DNA tc.

Unfortunately I don’t have any ss430 atm to test this out.

Kind of disappointing tbh.

well you are lucky cause you could have replay on the 75 C

Sent from my X522 using Tapatalk

 

[maibol]

I never had luck with 316, but swapped to 430 years ago.
If you don’t mind 28ga, Unkammen has good wire.
I like 27ga and use zivipf

i havent quit on TC so i gon try with 430 and btw did you have the tcr or template on hand ?

Sent from my X522 using Tapatalk

 

[maibol]

That is really strange, all i use all day every day is SS316 L in TC on 4 DNA 60’s and 3 DNA 75’s. Flawless all the time for nearly two years. Do you slightly space the coils? Also what brand wire? All i use is Temco.

what tcr are using i want try it to see if maybe is my wire or profile as i said before im using 316l from UD at 26 g i have hear a lot of people having succes with 316 L but with the wire im using some times is great and some times it suck i havent quit TC and maybe is the crappy wire that im using as is super cheap

Sent from my X522 using Tapatalk

 

[Steamer861]

You can go to Steam Engine Site & make an accurate TCR file for your wire.
Then just import it to E-Scribe

 

[Fidola13]

I just did a google search of DNA ss316 issues and come up with pages of hits. I’m ...... off because all you hear about is DNA this & DNA that. Hell my $25 Exus Ark does TC better than this thing. What a waste of money.

 

[Fidola13]

Evolve states only 10% of their customers use tc maybe because it doesn’t work well for the other 90% lol

You can go to Steam Engine Site & make an accurate TCR file for your wire.
Then just import it to E-Scribe

Can you just go into the mod itself to do this like on the Yihi? I don’t have the software downloaded yet.

 

[ShowerHead]

I just did a google search of DNA ss316 issues and come up with pages of hits. I’m ...... off because all you hear about is DNA this & DNA that. Hell my $25 Exus Ark does TC better than this thing. What a waste of money.

No, it doesn't.
Had one of those for a day or two before sending it back.

There are workarounds for using SS316(L) with the DNA. Since I am not in love with 316, I went with 430 which works perfectly. I also have some NiFe52 that works excellent, but stick with the 430.
SS316 always seems to cause trouble on any mod. Review a few 'Help TC No Good On My XXX Mod' threads. Invariably it is 316 and someone posts a TCR workaround value for that wire and mod. Generally higher TCR 'fixes' them.

As I said, no interest in workarounds when there is material that performs perfectly for me.

Of course, I roll my own. If I wanted to vape a factory coil, I'd have to investigate the fixes.

 

[Steamer861]

Hell my $25 Exus Ark does TC better than this thing.

No it dose Not! Not actually, TC takes a bit of work on the users part.
Get the correct wire & thing will be great!
You can get SS430 from FT for Cheap!
I'm using this $2.36 Authentic GeekVape SS430 Heating Wire - 24 AWG / 0.5mm dia. / 0.91ohm/ft / 30ft at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping & it's working fine

Can you just go into the mod itself to do this like on the Yihi? I don’t have the software downloaded yet.

The board comes preloaded with some wire types, you can use right out of the setting's menu
But to get a more precise TCR specifically for you build, Steam Engine is better