Week 3 and seeking some motivation to dump analogs

[BigBen2k]

I wish I could recommend a good 900 mAh eGo battery, but this site only has VV (variable voltage) batteries, and they're really overpriced.

I use a Halo Triton Batteries | Triton Tank System | Halo Cigs but they're vGo threaded, not eGo. eGo is much more popular. The tank is essentially a Kanger T2, a good unit with replaceable coils. Lots of vapor... and easily cleaned.

I don't use a VV battery; I'm satisfied with mine just the way it is: unregulated batteries last longer anyways. By the time the vapor gets cold, it's time for a recharge. I'd consider a VV if I was going to try lots of different flavors.

If you do consider the Triton, don't get the kit; there's no VV or 900 mAh option for the kit (but there is a VV battery, and a 1'300 mAh battery that's really not that big). You can piece it out, and skip the USB adapters, if you already have them. You'll need the USB charger though (charging a 900 mAh takes about an hour and a half!). As long as you don't order nicotine, you should be able to get this through Canada customs, easily.

There's probably a Canadian store from which you could order an eGo 900 (or 1'300) mAH battery, VV or not. You'll probably be able to use the same charger.

The Provari is not a bad choice. It'e eGo threaded, so you can use your existing tanks. Expensive though.

Halo also has a line of sophisticated flavor blends that are very satisfying.

 

[SharonH]

The changing habits part is the worst. When I started vaping it was hardest in the morning and like you after meals and evening not to smoke. It's different for everyone. I was so jealous of the stories you hear of people quitting cigs on day ONE of vaping lol.

When I first got my kit in February, I actually was able to stop immediately. But that was in California and I found out just a couple of days into it that it wasn't legal in Canada so I got in freak out mode. I found Canadian sources and restarted a few weeks ago. And yes have envy of those who quit analogs on day one too! But I will get there!

If you have work and life stress it is even more difficult in my opinion. I chain vape 24mg all day long and feel as if sometimes it's barely enough to get me through a day.

Absolutely! I own/run a business with a lot of responsibilities. Plus, at the start of week 2 not only was I back at work after taking a week off but an error with police/court/ticket system resulted in car being seized and license being suspended. A ticket paid online wasn't marked paid and no mail notices were sent out. It's been 2 weeks and although car is out of impound and license back in hand, insurance will not issue new paperwork because the government system still shows license as being suspended. So 20+ hours and $1k spent dealing with a mess. (The court clerk said all expenses will be refunded since it was their error but still.) It was not good timing to deal with something like this.

There is a certain mindset that we are giving something up or taking something away from our lives by not smoking cigarettes. The truth that I have found personally is I've gained so much more and can't believe I smoked for 32 years of my life (2/3 of my life!).

I'm rereading Allen Carr's book.. have you read it? That's a lot of what he writes about.

You smoke light cigarettes so maybe higher nicotine in the morning to get you going and tone it down towards bedtime so you can sleep and not over nic yourself. Try sample packs from different juice vendors to find what you like best. Vaping great tasting juice really helps.

I'm in Canada half the year (and am here right now). With so many seizures of stuff cross-border, I don't want to risk it and am still learning about reliable Canadian suppliers. I've not seen any with sample packs but I am going with 5-6ml bottles to try. One vendor I'm using now gives a free 6 ml for every review you leave, so that will help on the experimenting side!

You have literally thousands of people here willing and ready to help cause we are all in the same boat (well most of us anyways). Just remember what ever works for you is the right way. Good luck SharonH!

Thank you!

 

[BigBen2k]

Here's a Canadian supplier: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/canada-suppliers/429257-www-vapourconnection-com-thread.html .
Relatively new, but an ECF registered supplier. Prices are good.

Here's another one: NicFitNation.com - Canadian supplier of e-cig kits, parts, accessories, and e-liquids - Buy ecigs in Canada E-Cig E-Juice e-cigs
I don't know them either, but the prices are right.

Here's another one, in Montreal: http://www.vaporus.com/home.php

 

[nicetucu]

Funny you mentioned Allen Carr's book. I'm originally from Toronto (moved to states in November 1998) and when I was there last summer visiting family and friends my best friend gave me one of his books to read. I only really made it through a couple of chapters, but my friend and his wife took his course.

If you have your juice delivered to California address and bring it back in your luggage or carry on it shouldn't get seized (as far as I know). Also if you use a U.S vendor to deliver to Canada via USPS, it will have a much better chance of getting through customs instead of UPS and or FedEx.

A variable voltage or wattage device gives you better results and leeway to find your sweet spot and of course give you bigger hits and vapor (or as we Canadians call vapour lol). The provari does VV so you still have to do a bit of math or look at a chart to know the wattage at whatever resistance your topper is, but people really love them and are quite durable. Having a mod is nice cause when it dies on you just replace the battery (people have multiple batteries at the ready).

I've been vaping since March 29 and started with an ego c twist (2 of them) that does variable voltage between 3.2v - 4.8v with various toppers like boge Low Resistance cartomizers (fiddly things lol) and iclear 30's , protanks, carto tanks etc... And now also use a cheap Vamo V3 that I purchased from a Chinese company called Fasttech.com .... The device itself is VV and VW and was $32.18 with free worldwide shipping. Takes 2-3 weeks to get, but saves some money and already had the other batteries and didn't mind too much. You have to buy the right batteries and charger as well, so all in was about $70. If I was to make a purchase today I would grab an Itaste Svd, which is $37.21 shipped. I think it is a bit more durable and better looking than a vamo v3 IMHO.

I used to smoke Du Maurier Lights king size when I lived in Canada. As I said I was in Toronto last summer (for five weeks) and ran out of my camel 99's about 2/3 of the way through and spent a small fortune on cig's for the rest of my trip lol.

I guess I was just sick and tired of being sick and tired. p.s I know Alien Visions sends usps priority mail to Canada and they are one of my favorite (favourite lol) vendors. Boba's Bounty and Gorilla Juice are staples in my inventory of juices. Thanks for the like, just hit 100 lol.

 

[SharonH]

Here's a Canadian supplier: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/canada-suppliers/429257-www-vapourconnection-com-thread.html .
Relatively new, but an ECF registered supplier. Prices are good.

Here's another one: NicFitNation.com - Canadian supplier of e-cig kits, parts, accessories, and e-liquids - Buy ecigs in Canada E-Cig E-Juice e-cigs
I don't know them either, but the prices are right.

Here's another one, in Montreal: Electric Cigarettes | E Cigarettes Canada | Buy Electronic Cigarettes

Thanks for digging those up! Being 100% VG makes options limited here (none of them have that). But for getting new tech, it may be worthwhile having a look. I'm back in California in a few weeks in the midst of many b&m so may wait for new tech until then. I think I will be okay right now.

I was going to order Thursday night some more liquid but wanted to see how the weekend was going. One of the places I order from has 36 mg and I may get a 6ml of ry4 of that to deal with the worst craves. The rest of the day, 12mg or split 12/24 mix seems to be okay.

 

[SharonH]

Nicetucu, When I came back last time, I had 20 ml over 3 bottles with me (10ml & 2 x 5ml) to be safe. I was told that you can only have enough for personal consumption without issues by customs. The last thing I want is customs issues since I clear customs in Toronto but have to get connections to Montreal. I've missed a connection before and not fun!

I've been noticing a lot of good things said about the itaste... so that might be another option to consider too. Thanks for the reminder on that.

Honestly, I don't want to deal with more of a learning curve but just vape period lol

Yeah, I'm really lucky - not - I spend half my time in Canada and it's $82/carton and half the time in San Diego and it's $75/carton US. So at 50 analogs a day, it is pricey. For a lot of people, quitting comes down to financial reasons. But for me, the $ amount hasn't made a dent up until now. It doesn't "hurt" me financially by any means but hard to substantiate $7k+ a year after tax money being spent on analogs!

 

[BigBen2k]

Crave Gourmet eJuice — Crave Gourmet eJuice - Canada's Best Organic eJuice - Global Leaders in Nicotine Free eJuice - Best Tasting e Juice - DIY offers VG only flavors. Organic. A bit pricey though.

 

[SharonH]

Crave Gourmet eJuice — Crave Gourmet eJuice - Canada's Best Organic eJuice - Global Leaders in Nicotine Free eJuice - Best Tasting e Juice - DIY offers VG only flavors. Organic. A bit pricey though.

Aww I got all excited until I saw they have no options with nicotine at all! Organic is right up my alley too!

 

[BigBen2k]

I was able to find a review of Allen Carr's method. This is right in line with the MAOIs naturally present in tobacco. It can take 8 months to be completely rid of the MAOI withdrawal effect. The first week/2 weeks is the toughest. Don't plan on quitting e-cigs anytime soon, even if you get down to 0 nic.

I use 3 tanks with different nic levels, throughout the day. I'm about to order 3 more, so I can have different flavors as well, while leaving the last one I cleaned out to dry overnight.

 

[nicetucu]

I hear you on customs. I had a friend drive me to the airport and he lit something other than a cig on the way there. Well I get to the airport (in Toronto) and was in line checking my luggage when customs with a dog walks by and the dog stops by me lmao. It was a very early flight and I was half awake. My first reaction was to pet the dog (animal lover) and was quickly told not to touch the dog and was whisked off to a room with three guys tearing my luggage apart with no regard to how neatly my stuff was packed.

I obviously missed my flight and got lucky to grab the next one. But because of that incident I always feel something dubious is in my file cause Canadian customs always gives me more of a hassle than the average passenger. I was really close to getting strip searched that day, but I guess my carefree attitude finally won out and they let me go. whew....

Next time I visit Canada I would probably bring a freaking tackle box full of juice with me (half a liter of juice at least) so that has me a bit worried.

 

[BigBen2k]

Aww I got all excited until I saw they have no options with nicotine at all! Organic is right up my alley too!

Doh!

Try this one: E-Juice E-Liquid E-cigarettes E-cigs Ontario British Columbia Alberta Quebec Saskatchewan
Not organic, and a bit pricey, but looks reputable. 30 mL bottles are fair priced.

They also sell a Joyetech eGo-T in 1'000 mAh, for a fair price. You might need a new charger for one of those.

 

[SharonH]

I was able to find a review of Allen Carr's method. This is right in line with the MAOIs naturally present in tobacco. It can take 8 months to be completely rid of the MAOI withdrawal effect. The first week/2 weeks is the toughest. Don't plan on quitting e-cigs anytime soon, even if you get down to 0 nic.

I use 3 tanks with different nic levels, throughout the day. I'm about to order 3 more, so I can have different flavors as well, while leaving the last one I cleaned out to dry overnight.

I have 5 clearomizers all with different flavors/strengths myself so I can relate!

I'd not heard of the 8 months with MAOI - interesting and makes sense!

 

[SharonH]

Next time I visit Canada I would probably bring a freaking tackle box full of juice with me (half a liter of juice at least) so that has me a bit worried.

I'd suggest against it based on what I was told. I wasn't told a specific amount that was okay or wouldn't cause issues. I was told to put it in checked bags vs carry on and that it had to be appropriately labelled. No matter the amount, they CAN seize it if there's nicotine in it.

 

[SharonH]

Doh!

Try this one: E-Juice E-Liquid E-cigarettes E-cigs Ontario British Columbia Alberta Quebec Saskatchewan
Not organic, and a bit pricey, but looks reputable. 30 mL bottles are fair priced.

That's actually where I've ordered from! Rapid lightning service. I ordered around 2 am on a Friday morning. Monday was a holiday and I had it Tuesday! The positive side of their pricing is that when you leave a review for a product, you can get a free 6 ml of your choice with your next order. Plus, there are coupon codes all around and they give an automatic discount when you place repeat orders.

 

[nicetucu]

I'd suggest against it based on what I was told. I wasn't told a specific amount that was okay or wouldn't cause issues. I was told to put it in checked bags vs carry on and that it had to be appropriately labelled. No matter the amount, they CAN seize it if there's nicotine in it.

That is utter B.S on Canada's part. I guess I will pack it well and stick it in my luggage and just carry a personal level of juice with me. I won't visit my sister in Singapore because of this. She is so paranoid in doing something wrong living there that she didn't want me to jailbreak her iPhone lol. I would probably be caned in Singapore for bringing ejuice with nic in it.

 

[cocoloco]

Might be better to look at it as an equal addiction to nicotine where the only difference between the two is the delivery system.

1. Throw away the analogs. You don't need them. Smoking and vaping at the same time is a waste of time and money.

2. Manage your vaping (nic content, device and flavor) until it fits your style. Keep looking ... it's out there.

3. Imagine what stress would do to you if you didn't smoke or vape. Stress is stress.

4. Remind yourself that smoking kills ... vaping satisfies.

As for me; been vaping for almost two years without a regret and without an ashtray.

 

[relax1972]

You should probably stick to the 24 or go up to 36mg, and ditch smoking all together, I know it's hard but I did, and if I can do it anyone can, I thought I would never quit. And then anytime you feel the urge for a cig reach for your vape, and just keep doing it, you'll be used to it within three days, or at least that's how long it took me, analogs have so many other chemicals in them that you will withdraw from them alone, but it doesn't take too long to get over that. I wish you luck, keep your head up and I have faith in you.

 

[SharonH]

That is utter B.S on Canada's part. I guess I will pack it well and stick it in my luggage and just carry a personal level of juice with me. I won't visit my sister in Singapore because of this. She is so paranoid in doing something wrong living there that she didn't want me to jailbreak her iPhone lol. I would probably be caned in Singapore for bringing ejuice with nic in it.

One thing - check individual airline's policies as well. Even though customs agent told me this, Air Canada allows you to bring e-cigarettes in your carry on baggage but they cannot be taken out/used in flight. (It is on AC's website)

 

[SharonH]

Might be better to look at it as an equal addiction to nicotine where the only difference between the two is the delivery system.

1. Throw away the analogs. You don't need them. Smoking and vaping at the same time is a waste of time and money.

2. Manage your vaping (nic content, device and flavor) until it fits your style. Keep looking ... it's out there.

3. Imagine what stress would do to you if you didn't smoke or vape. Stress is stress.

4. Remind yourself that smoking kills ... vaping satisfies.

As for me; been vaping for almost two years without a regret and without an ashtray.

First, congrats to you! I do think everyone's situation is different. I have NO problem actually with the nicotine aspect of smoking. It's the brain fog side which I've gotten with every form of NRT. I really believe in my case, I'm more susceptible to the MAOIs in analogs than some people are. Given in normal dosing of MAOIs, people are generally weaned it makes sense intellectually that the same thing should be done with cigarettes.

In case you have any interest, here's a study that was done over a decade ago on the issue. When digging up references to the study, I came across a great post from an ecig vendor going into some detail about the study and the implications for cessation and transitioning to vaping.

 

[soba1]

I was able to find a review of Allen Carr's method. This is right in line with the MAOIs naturally present in tobacco. It can take 8 months to be completely rid of the MAOI withdrawal effect. The first week/2 weeks is the toughest. Don't plan on quitting e-cigs anytime soon, even if you get down to 0 nic.

I use 3 tanks with different nic levels, throughout the day. I'm about to order 3 more, so I can have different flavors as well, while leaving the last one I cleaned out to dry overnight.

Wow I just saw this its coming up
three months for me. The first couple of weeks
I was still somewhat craving I thought it was all the additives
they put in there. This is definitely a journey.