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Guys, I need some help here. I diy one particular juice and most of the time it is great. Sometimes maybe 10% of the time the juice has too much wetness. Today I decided to make a flavor less juice. Simple. I mixed 1.6 ml 36mg/ml nicotine and filled till 10 ml with VG. It gives me 6mg/ml flavorless juice. It is too wet!! I will explain what I mean. It is like vaping the shower vapor. Like when you have water going into your air pipe. I'm caughing after every inhale. Can someone explain this phenomenon. It is not a cough from high nic. It is like you have water going into your air pipe. I have vape 100% VG liquids before so many and it doesn't give this effect. Does a flavorless juice need steeping? It doesn't make sense.
 

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Believe it or not add a little distilled water to the base about 4 - 6%. The vape is to thick and likely not producing the correct vapor amount this can have an almost thick, pasty choking effect. Adding water will thin the vapor cloud and produce a richer plum. If After that it still seems a bit thick then if your using a VB reduce the voltage.
 
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Believe it or not add a little distilled water to the base about 4 - 6%. The vape is to thick and likely not producing the correct vapor amount this can have an almost thick, pasty choking effect. Adding water will thin the vapor cloud and produce a richer plum. If After that it still seems a bit thick then if your using a VB reduce the voltage.

Reducing the voltage does not help. Does using PG instead of distilled water gives The same result?
 

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I think water is the better option here. PG may increase the throat hit and choking. PG will act as a thinning agent though. Most go to high VG because they have an issue of harshness with PG. If that is not the case with you then it don't hurt to try but I would do 50/50 to start and you can go higher with vg to zero in on your comfort level if it does help.
 
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I think water is the better option here. PG may increase the throat hit and choking. PG will act as a thinning agent though. Most go to high VG because they have an issue of harshness with PG. If that is not the case with you then it don't hurt to try but I would do 50/50 to start and you can go higher with vg to zero in on your comfort level if it does help.

I will try the pg first. Maybe at 10%. I don't have any pg allergy so that's that. More throat hit is not a problem because this is not throat hit I'm experiencing it is definitely what you described, particles that are not vaporizing most probably. Thanks a lot I will report back.
 

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Yeah straight vg is usually too thick/viscous -- try diluting with water or saline. My base is 80% vg + 15% distilled water + 5% saline (of .9% sterile solution). Works quite well for me then mixing with flavors and vg nic. If you're using pg nic, maybe try ~10% distilled + 5% saline. I vape on RDA and mini-PTs.

Thanks for the suggestion. I have no idea what the saline is for.
 

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Update. I put around 20% PG and that solved my problem however increased throat hit. As a proof of concept it succeeded in removing the wetness. So I will definitely dilute with water and use 100% VG. Thank you all for this I was going to scrap my supplies thinking they are the ones to blame. It seems that my e juices were coming out good since the flavorings (more than 7) were doing the trick in diluting the VG.
 

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Great news. Glad this worked out. Isn't this a great place?

The saline can help with overdrying; I specially used it to resolve issue with overly dry sinuses. I prefer/recommend the sterile medical stuff which is a 0.9% solution free of additives, preservatives, etc. I believe there are two manufacturers; mine is by Baxter. I purchased ~300ml on Amazon for ~$12 and free shipping. Search for my userid and the keyword "Baxter" and you'll find a link to where I purchased.

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Great news. Glad this worked out. Isn't this a great place?

The saline can help with overdrying; I specially used it to resolve issue with overly dry sinuses. I prefer/recommend the sterile medical stuff which is a 0.9% solution free of additives, preservatives, etc. I believe there are two manufacturers; mine is by Baxter. I purchased ~300ml on Amazon for ~$12 and free shipping. Search for my userid and the keyword "Baxter" and you'll find a link to where I purchased.

Enjoy!

Thank you so much! Will give it a try.
 

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Ok so I tried using 10% water worked beautifully with on VG but not the other which was obviously thicker. I needed 15%. This is going to be hard because a little water more and it becomes dry. So I have to stick to one VG source and perfect the water percentage. Plus it differs according to what you are making since you need to add the amount of PG from flavorings.
 

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15% water (distilled + saline) should be okay; it's what I use. However, you're correct there will be some variation in thickness and vapor production depending on % flavor. My approach is to keep it simple; mix the base, and just add flavor and nic. This does cause some variation in vapor but no equipment issues, and quicker/easier, so fine for me.

Others mix by reducing water as flavors increase to maintain exact percentage of vg/pg versus flavors, water and nic. This percent will vary depending on your ratio of vg/pg.
 
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Ok so I tried using 10% water worked beautifully with on VG but not the other which was obviously thicker. I needed 15%. This is going to be hard because a little water more and it becomes dry. So I have to stick to one VG source and perfect the water percentage. Plus it differs according to what you are making since you need to add the amount of PG from flavorings.

The thicker the juice the more water or saline you need. So if 10% isent enough you can add in 1% increments until it vapes correctly and the wetness feels right. It's all adjustments there's really no need to stick with one VG concentration all you need to do is adjust the amount of water. If you use the juice me up cal you can even adj water/flavor compensation.
 
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