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batteredwombat

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Some funny replies on this thread! I have vaped a lot of places including in class, restaurants and stores. I go to the bathroom at restaurants and in class take a stealth one. I agree we shouldn't care what people think but I don't want big brother ruining vape for us all due to whiney, misinformed naysayers, so I stealth.
 

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No Steve

Folks catering to everybody's feels help pass anti(whatever) legislation

If someone were to approach me (let's say at Walmart) and ask me not to vape in the store, I would be fine with that. Since nobody has, I go ahead: I just don't blow big clouds, or exhale into someone's line of travel (or don't get into peoples' faces, as a general rule).

But I will never change how I live my life, based only on how someone may feel about something, hoping to not offend them. That's the modern danegeld, which I flat refuse to pay. If more people took that attitude, we might actually BE free

I imagiine some who see others vaping at Walmart think vaping must be so addictive vapers can't control where they vape, so legislation must be passed to prevent children from becoming Walmart vapers..

I take it you were never a smoker...
 

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I imagiine some who see others vaping at Walmart think vaping must be so addictive vapers can't control where they vape, so legislation must be passed to prevent children from becoming Walmart vapers..

I take it you were never a smoker...

Hey Steve, I just liked your post because of your common sense.
Indeed when we vapers don't exhibit some type of self control and consideration for others
we reinforce the negative connotations associated with vaping and in so doing give legislators yet another reason
to moderate our behavior through legislation.

In Florida the state legislature is considering enacting a statute which
will establish a 60% tax on wholesale nicotine products and delivery devices
as well as a 25% tax on such to the consumer. I'm sure the two guys I saw
vaping at Walmart last night won't help our image before said legislators.
This proposal if approved will take effect on July, 01, 2015.

I certainly hope that my approval of your post
isn't considered reinforcement of your negative
posting behavior..

Regards,

Hazy :2cool:
 
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Strings

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Yes, I was a smoker. And, per laws and policies, I didn't smoke in certain places.

Now... when a policy states "no vaping", I'll follow it. After all, it's the business owner's decision. And I will fight such laws in every way I can

You can go ahead and cater to someone else's psychological problems
 

GretaGarbo

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I had to stay in the hospital awhile last year and I admit, I did some stealth vaping in the bathroom of my room. I actually stood in the shower stall (without the water of course) I'd take a couple of hits, then I would be done. Made sure no oxygen tanks or any thing like that was near. It actually made the bathroom smell pleasent. Please don't judge. I was in the hospital for a week. You might have done the same :)

Oh yes Realsis..I would have done the same!!
 

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I am, I have to admit, a little confused. You said:

But I will never change how I live my life, based only on how someone may feel about something, hoping to not offend them. That's the modern danegeld, which I flat refuse to pay. If more people took that attitude, we might actually BE free

But then you also said in the same post:

If someone were to approach me (let's say at Walmart) and ask me not to vape in the store, I would be fine with that. Since nobody has, I go ahead: I just don't blow big clouds, or exhale into someone's line of travel (or don't get into peoples' faces, as a general rule).

I find that to be a bit contradictory. Are you going to follow rules and laws set forth my a majority mandate of the people (pending regulation), concede to common courtesy by abstaining from vaping if asked, or "never change how I live my life, based only on how someone may feel about something, hoping to not offend them."?

Did you think about this post or just "say" it? Though I salut your passion I'm disappointed with the rationale.

Please don't read this as an attack. I just see your argument indicative of a lack of foresight and maybe a mild misunderstanding of what being "free" is about. It's my humble understanding that it means we have the choice to pursue the course(s) of action that we desire as long as it does not cause undue harm to others. We are, none of us, "FREE" like I think you want us to yearn for.
I don't have the freedom to burn down my neighbor's house. That is, granted, an extreme example but it IS how the government is charged to protect the population by, sometimes" curtailing the rights of some select few (in this example, the few who want to burn down their neighbor's houses) to protect the majority.

I also don't understand how you think that vaping brazenly in public helps our collective cause. I think there are very few people who see you vaping at Walmart and think "That guy has the right spirit. Let's be FREE America!" Plus, I would guess that for every single person who does think that, there are two dozen other folks that are annoyed or offended by ill-mannered vaping in public.

Which ones do you think are going to be more apt to write their congressman?

Can we at least agree that inside Walmart (or whatever store/mall/eatery, etc...) isn't, perhaps, the best place to make our vaping education classroom? Wouldn't we want to reach the smokers first anyway? Why not vape outside with them and explain, when they ask, what vaping is about? Every converted smoker is (hopefully) a supporter for our rights. Every person you push from ambivalence into annoyance is a supporter for those who would curtail our rights.

We have several tough battles coming in the months and years ahead to protect our rights and maintain the legitimacy of vaping. I think we need a better plan if "IDGAF. I refuse to be polite because I'm Free" is what we're going to lead with.

Just my thoughts.

I hope this didn't offend, because it was not intended for offense.
 
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KeFish

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The only place I have ever stealth vaped was in a hospital while visiting a family member. A lot of people I've come across realize vaping isn't smoking but for me personally I still treat as I was smoking. I never smoked a cigarette while grocery shopping so I don't feel the need to vape just because it isn't a cigarette. The only place I vape where smoking is prohibited is in my company vehicle at work.
 

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I find that to be a bit contradictory. Are you going to follow rules and laws set forth my a majority mandate of the people (pending regulation), concede to common courtesy by abstaining from vaping if asked, or "never change how I live my life, based only on how someone may feel about something, hoping to not offend them."?

The key part there is "...change how I live my life, based only on how someone may feel about something...". I hear a bunch of folks on here talk about "Someone MIGHT get upset"

Do you try to anticipate others' feeling in everything you do?

Did you think about this post or just "say" it? Though I salut your passion I'm disappointed with the rationale.

I "type" stream of conscious, with a double check for spelling.

Please don't read this as an attack. I just see your argument indicative of a lack of foresight and maybe a mild misunderstanding of what being "free" is about. It's my humble understanding that it means we have the choice to pursue the course(s) of action that we desire as long as it does not cause undue harm to others. We are, none of us, "FREE" like I think you want us to yearn for.

What harm am I causing, by vaping in Walmart? Actual harm, if you would, not some case of "someone might have their feels hurt, seeing something that looks like it might be smoke". We don't (or shouldn't) base laws on people's feelings

I don't have the freedom to burn down my neighbor's house. That is, granted, an extreme example but it IS how the government is charged to protect the population by, sometimes" curtailing the rights of some select few (in this example, the few who want to burn down their neighbor's houses) to protect the majority.

Again: what harm am I doing by using my vape in Walmart? You are correlating vaping in a public building (which has yet to be proven to harm anyone in any way) with the tangible harm of damaging my neighbor's property.

Honestly... if you think vaping is that bad, maybe you should stop?

I also don't understand how you think that vaping brazenly in public helps our collective cause. I think there are very few people who see you vaping at Walmart and think "That guy has the right spirit. Let's be FREE America!" Plus, I would guess that for every single person who does think that, there are two dozen other folks that are annoyed or offended by ill-mannered vaping in public.

You familiar with the Open Carry movement? Similar concept: the more people that see folks vaping, the more "normal" it becomes (until it's basically invisible).

Which ones do you think are going to be more apt to write their congressman?

Right this minute? The anti. However, by conceding ground without a fight, we're only encouraging the antis anyway. Did you think by meekly hiding your vape, they will allow it to continue to exist? You must not have dealt with many antis

Can we at least agree that inside Walmart (or whatever store/mall/eatery, etc...) isn't, perhaps, the best place to make our vaping education classroom?

No.

First off, I'm not there to make a statement or educate someone: I'm there to purchase something. If, in the course of that, I get to educate someone... cool. Second: we want vaping "normalized": you don't achieve that by hiding outside in the bushes, but rather by going about your life.

Wouldn't we want to reach the smokers first anyway? Why not vape outside with them and explain, when they ask, what vaping is about? Every converted smoker is (hopefully) a supporter for our rights.

This isn't a list of steps that have to be taken in order: we SHOULD be talking with smokers, and trying to get them to be pro vaping (even if they don't vape themselves). But at the same time, allowing the normalization of vaping to become "vaping = smoking", then we have already lost

Every person you push from ambivalence into annoyance is a supporter for those who would curtail our rights.

Odd fact: you will almost NEVER push someone from "ambivalent" to "anti", if acting reasonably. The key here is "reasonable": you see it as "we lump ourselves in with the smokers, and follow their restrictions": I see it as "don't blow huge clouds indoors, or blow vapor into other peoples' faces".

We have several tough battles coming in the months and years ahead to protect our rights and maintain the legitimacy of vaping. I think we need a better plan if "IDGAF. I refuse to be polite because I'm Free" is what we're going to lead with.

You seem caught up in "polite", as if we can make an "anti-friendly vape". This would be the same thing as a "Carrie Nation friendly rum"

The antis LOVE it when you concede ground like you're suggesting. Because every bit that we concede is that little bit less they have to fight for
 
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PhillyMike

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I was standing in the customer service line at walmart and I saw a woman vaping in line...is that weird? or am I weird for thinking that's weird? Lol. Tell of the weird places you guys have seen vapers?

Sadly people like that are ruining vaping for all of us. its only giving the FDA more ammo to use against vapers.
 

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I stealth vape in airports, depending on the airport... in Miami last month was stuck there several hours at a bar and used it openly with no one complaining and vaping is not a new phenomena there. Also on long flights, some times I will just go to the bathroom and vape, but not clouding up the whole place where it will be noticeable. I have talked to flight attendants that do the same thing actually. I also vape in bars/concert venues/cruise ships etc where smoking is not allowed and have never had a problem with it. Occasionally a security guard or staff will take a closer look until they realize I am not actually smoking and don't bother me.
 

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Name a place, any place, and I'll vape there, with respect. Don't be bashful, name a place you think it would be really weird to vape in.

I may not vape in every situation, but that's where the 'with respect' thing comes in, as arguably not every place outdoors would be respectful for vaping (as no vaper can control wind).

Given the nature of vapor: the utter lack of smell, how quickly it dissipates and how nearly impossible it is to notice if you are pretty sure you are the only one vaping in any enclosed space, then I think it is extremely weird to not consider vaping in certain places, with respect. Like some law / policy against vaping in a certain location is going to be enforceable. I find that laughable. Would be like if there were policy to not vape outdoors say over an area that is a square mile and visited often by people. Think all vapers will say I would never ever vape there? That just cracks me up.

People who think you ought not to vape in certain places (at any time) are the weirdos.
 
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