Well, my mechanical mod went BOOM.

[Stinkytofus]

probably fake batteries or you didn't lock your device

 

[wonkeypickle]

Agree with above post. As someone who frequently pushes the limits of what can be done with vtc batteries, i've never had one feel hotter than body temperature.

Battery was fake or mod wasn't locked, or build was bogus. Most likely a combo of all three imo.

 

[Susan~S]

Speaking of venting batteries. Hopefully this is just a typo, but you never know.

I gave this new member my usual Baditude post regarding mech mods and rebuildables. IF the 0.04 ohm build is not a typo, then it goes to show "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink". He's been using a mech mod and rebuildable for a month. Have no idea what battery he is using.

There is the thread: Empty brain needing to learn

Post #11 is the disturbing post (unless it's a typo). I commented on his post #11. Anyone else care to provide some helpful advise to this new member?

 

[Katdarling]

Yup, 2.0 ohm cartomizer in a cartotank on an AltSmoke BB mech mod. Trustfire 14500 ICR protected batteries unsure: Yeah I know, this was over 2 years ago when everyone was saying use protected batteries and that IMR batteries weren't safe. We live and learn from experience.).

Battery Basics for Mods: IMR or Protected ICR?

Anyways, I was a relatively new vaper at 2 months, and had just switched from cigalikes to a mech mod. Those Trustfire ICR batteries were what were recommended at the time. At work, I always kept my mods in my pants pocket in my locker. The protruding horn fire button on the BB got compressed in the pocket, causing the mod to continuously fire the battery until it literally exploded. Luckily, the mod's fire button acts like a vent hole, so the mod itself did not explode.

That was the last time that I used an ICR protected battery, and I switched to only IMR safe-chemistry batteries. Any over-stressed battery can vent, and mods that are not well-vented may explode from the accumulation of gas pressure.

Nice to see you, Bad.

A mech is basically all I've ever used and once upon a time were close to all we ever had. It's strange to see how the reputation of a mechanical mod has been defined by the thing you stick on top of it. Battery safety has always been stressed but we never had to think about the difference a tenth of an ohm might make. I generally mind my own business and if people want to make coil building their hobby and blow giant clouds that's fine by me. But I do know one thing beyond a shadow of a doubt, if quitting smoking is the true goal for somebody, walking that thin line is absolutely unnecessary. It torques me that some vapers and vape shops sell new folks on the idea that that's the way it needs to be done.

Bravo, snork. Major big time BRAVO.

 

[Katdarling]

Speaking of venting batteries. Hopefully this is just a typo, but you never know.

I gave this new member my usual Baditude post regarding mech mods and rebuildables. IF the 0.04 ohm build is not a typo, then it goes to show "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink". He's been using a mech mod and rebuildable for a month. Have no idea what battery he is using.

There is the thread: Empty brain needing to learn

Post #11 is the disturbing post (unless it's a typo). I commented on his post #11. Anyone else care to provide some helpful advise to this new member?

Your posts in that thread were very helpful, Susan. I only hope that the OP is still around and will come back to heed your advise, and beckdg's as well.


0.04?? SMH.

 

[Katya]

But I do know one thing beyond a shadow of a doubt, if quitting smoking is the true goal for somebody, walking that thin line is absolutely unnecessary. It torques me that some vapers and vape shops sell new folks on the idea that that's the way it needs to be done.

^This.

Heya Bad!

 

[Katya]

I agree but seems if you are not in a vaping ambulance giving this poster your most sincere apologies for messing up, your a horrible monster. Seems, according to replies, we should be saying poor baby.

Nah. A simple explanation of basic facts would be more appropriate, IMO.

New vapers need help--I know I did when I first started. I'm glad nobody ridiculed my newbie mistakes then--people just told me, nicely, what they thought I had done wrong and why.

 

[four2109]

I think a lot of the heat in this thread was overflow from the 2 other battery failure threads on the same day! (Vented my first battery & Battery Hot, Hot, Hot)
The fire was fueled by posts such as, "Stuff happens", "I didn't get around to re-wrapping it", "I think it's still OK", "I don't have/use an ohm meter", "Ah, Don't worry about it"......

 

[ReigntheGamer]

I think a lot of the heat in this thread was overflow from the 2 other battery failure threads on the same day! (Vented my first battery & Battery Hot, Hot, Hot)
The fire was fueled by posts such as, "Stuff happens", "I didn't get around to re-wrapping it", "I think it's still OK", "I don't have/use an ohm meter", "Ah, Don't worry about it"......

This x 100000000000. It wasn't so much the accident as it was the oh so casual attitude towards it. Once someone else's refusal to be safe when vaping may infringe on my right to safely by having accidents like this in public from lack of knowledge or general concern there is no way I am going to turn around and thank them for it.

 

[Robino1]

This x 100000000000. It wasn't so much the accident as it was the oh so casual attitude towards it. Once someone else's refusal to be safe when vaping may infringe on my right to safely by having accidents like this in public from lack of knowledge or general concern there is no way I am going to turn around and thank them for it.

Gonna try and do this so no feathers get ruffled. If I am unsuccessful..... but here goes.

Ok, something happens and the person comes onto ECF because they have a concern and want to help other new people to NOT have happen, what he experienced, to those new people. We do not need to jump on this persons case. There are other, less accusatory, ways to go about educating.

I can totally see myself being scared less and not thinking "how could I have avoided this" while I am desperately trying to get off a bus full of people, while something is happening to my PV.

I also think that two threads are being combined into some posts. One is totally different from the other. One thread did have a cavalier attitude while this one was more of a OMG Please be careful out there.

Try not to confuse the issues while dealing with each.

Be prepared, as we get more and more people vaping, there will be more of these popping (pun NOT intended) up. Remember to just focus on the thread at hand, not the ones that you have previously read. Each and every thread must be treated as individually as possible.

I personally feel like a thank you is deserved for someone trying to make others be more careful about what they are using because if enough care isn't taken, accidents DO happen.

Accidents do happen to good people.

off my soap box*

 

[The Cloud Minder]

Gonna try and do this so no feathers get ruffled. If I am unsuccessful..... but here goes.

Ok, something happens and the person comes onto ECF because they have a concern and want to help other new people to NOT have happen, what he experienced, to those new people. We do not need to jump on this persons case. There are other, less accusatory, ways to go about educating.

I can totally see myself being scared less and not thinking "how could I have avoided this" while I am desperately trying to get off a bus full of people, while something is happening to my PV.

I also think that two threads are being combined into some posts. One is totally different from the other. One thread did have a cavalier attitude while this one was more of a OMG Please be careful out there.

Try not to confuse the issues while dealing with each.

Be prepared, as we get more and more people vaping, there will be more of these popping (pun NOT intended) up. Remember to just focus on the thread at hand, not the ones that you have previously read. Each and every thread must be treated as individually as possible.

I personally feel like a thank you is deserved for someone trying to make others be more careful about what they are using because if enough care isn't taken, accidents DO happen.

Accidents do happen to good people.

off my soap box*

Great, ,... just great.

Now my brain is venting.

 

[ReigntheGamer]

Gonna try and do this so no feathers get ruffled. If I am unsuccessful..... but here goes.

Ok, something happens and the person comes onto ECF because they have a concern and want to help other new people to NOT have happen, what he experienced, to those new people. We do not need to jump on this persons case. There are other, less accusatory, ways to go about educating.

I can totally see myself being scared less and not thinking "how could I have avoided this" while I am desperately trying to get off a bus full of people, while something is happening to my PV.

I also think that two threads are being combined into some posts. One is totally different from the other. One thread did have a cavalier attitude while this one was more of a OMG Please be careful out there.

Try not to confuse the issues while dealing with each.

Be prepared, as we get more and more people vaping, there will be more of these popping (pun NOT intended) up. Remember to just focus on the thread at hand, not the ones that you have previously read. Each and every thread must be treated as individually as possible.

I personally feel like a thank you is deserved for someone trying to make others be more careful about what they are using because if enough care isn't taken, accidents DO happen.

Accidents do happen to good people.

off my soap box*

I agree completely, and think there would have been a different general tone if the "Hey sometimes .... happens" would have been left out of it. And now I am going to excuse myself from this thread, with my feathers un-ruffled.

Care for some jiffy pop?

 

[Robino1]

I agree completely, and think there would have been a different general tone if the "Hey sometimes .... happens" would have been left out of it. And now I am going to excuse myself from this thread, with my feathers un-ruffled.

Care for some jiffy pop?

psst it was the other thread that had the ".... happens" in it

Jiffy pop sounds good right about now... I haven't had breakfast yet

 

[ReigntheGamer]

Before getting into this story I want to make it clear that I am well aware of the dangers involved in using Mechanical Mods. I always do my best to vape as safely as possible, but hey. Sometimes .... happens.

Just saying.

 

[Robino1]

slinking back to my corner now......

 

[AttyPops]

Oh, so if you're experienced, and if you know ohms laws, and if you know batteries and if you know toppers and if you know locking rings and if you follow procedures and if you never take a mech on a bus and if the sun is shining --- I guess that .... doesn't happen.

Get real. .... happens. Even to the inverters of this stuff. Even to the designers. Even to physicists and battery experts.

The devices MUST be designed to withstand this. All of them. These days. This is no longer the infancy of the "hobby". The idea that "oh, if you just take care of stuff properly you won't have a problem" is a complete FALLACY. It's WRONG. Don't you get that people? Crap CAN and WILL happen. There's millions of people using these devices. Sure, the odds for any one of you are low if you follow proper procedure. But you have to understand that ANY battery can develop and INTERNAL short and vent all on it's own....user error or not. Could even be a manufacturing defect in the battery.

And then we get into accidents...rings you think are locked but are not or come lose. Shorts in toppers when stressed sideways in a pocket. And the two happening at the same time.

... happens.

 

[tj99959]

Just saying.

Ya, and typically that "something" is a brainfart. We all know & understand that, so there is no reason to get all hot under the collar over it.
I doubt that there is a person on the forum that hasn't ever done something stupid.
I know I have, and it wasn't all that long ago. Button top batteries don't work all that well when upside down in a modern mechanical. OOPS! At least I use enough resistance that I was well within the continuous amp limits of the battery.

We do some of those simple tasks (like locking the switch before putting the PV in our pocket) so many times that we tend to do them from muscle memory rather than a thought process. AND, that's probably the real lesson here.

 

[Robino1]

Ya, and typically that "something" is a brainfart. We all know & understand that, so there is no reason to get all hot under the collar over it.
I doubt that there is a person on the forum that hasn't ever done something stupid.
I know I have, and it wasn't all that long ago. Button top batteries don't work all that well when upside down in a modern mechanical. OOPS!

We do some of those simple tasks (like locking the switch before putting the PV in our pocket) so many times that we tend to do them from muscle memory rather than a thought process. AND, that's probably the real lesson here.

And it doesn't even have to involve a device...as you may have noticed with my last couple of posts

 

[wonkeypickle]

Ya, and typically that "something" is a brainfart. We all know & understand that, so there is no reason to get all hot under the collar over it.
I doubt that there is a person on the forum that hasn't ever done something stupid.
I know I have, and it wasn't all that long ago. Button top batteries don't work all that well when upside down in a modern mechanical. OOPS! At least I use enough resistance that I was well within the continuous amp limits of the battery.

We do some of those simple tasks (like locking the switch before putting the PV in our pocket) so many times that we tend to do them from muscle memory rather than a thought process. AND, that's probably the real lesson here.

Hate to bust out the pb words, but....

if you're going to be running a setup like this that has the potential to injure yourself or more important other innocent bystanders, making sure your mod is secure at all times is akin to keeping your firearms safety on before they are ready to fire.

i believe it was member hoosier on this site that stated "there should be no accidents". It is my opinion that no truer words have been spoken in reference to this type of device and set up.

 

[tj99959]

Hate to bust out the pb words, but....

if you're going to be running a setup like this that has the potential to injure yourself or more important other innocent bystanders, making sure your mod is secure at all times is akin to keeping your firearms safety on before they are ready to fire.

i believe it was member hoosier on this site that stated "there should be no accidents". It is my opinion that no truer words have been spoken in reference to this type of device and set up.

Been a certified firearms instructor for most of my adult life, and trust me, I've seen many very knowledgeable people do some very stupid things. Accidental discharges at a firing range are more common than you would think.

Saw an interesting accident survey some years back (machinists)
0-2 years experience = 10% of accidents
3-10 years experience = 80% of accidents
11-30 years experience = 10% of accidents
I think there's a message there.

OH and, safeties can fail, the only "safe" firearm is one with the action open
If you can't SEE that there is no bullet .... the gun is loaded.