Well, my mechanical mod went BOOM.

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I encourage anyone on this site that has had a scare like mine to share their story regardless of SOME people being jerks, because the ones who aren't arses can be very helpful in trying to figure out what may have gone wrong with a vaping device, and very supportive.

You are absolutely right Nisstyre.......

...... and my sincere & humble apologies for being one of the arses earlier :facepalm:
 

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I have been following my post carefully over the past few days. Once again I would like to thank the people on here who did not decide to immediately jump down my throat for what happened to me. The purpose of this post was to inform the community that these things CAN happen, like I said before. Can, not will, and to see what theories other people on this site had to offer. I still cannot say what exactly happened in the situation I found myself in. I can certainly see after how many people blew up over this why others would be hesitant to share their negative stories, but I encourage anyone on this site that has had a scare like mine to share their story regardless of SOME people being jerks, because the ones who aren't arses can be very helpful in trying to figure out what may have gone wrong with a vaping device, and very supportive.

In my defense...I DID send red team out for you in the crater but you gotz out before they gotz in...:D
 

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I have been following my post carefully over the past few days. Once again I would like to thank the people on here who did not decide to immediately jump down my throat for what happened to me. The purpose of this post was to inform the community that these things CAN happen, like I said before. Can, not will, and to see what theories other people on this site had to offer. I still cannot say what exactly happened in the situation I found myself in. I can certainly see after how many people blew up over this why others would be hesitant to share their negative stories, but I encourage anyone on this site that has had a scare like mine to share their story regardless of SOME people being jerks, because the ones who aren't arses can be very helpful in trying to figure out what may have gone wrong with a vaping device, and very supportive.

I'm glad you came back & responded. It's a shame out of 240 post, maybe 10 were helpful.
The fact the bashing and jokes regarding the situation continued even after every time a mod stepped in goes to show you how much has changed around here in the past year. I'll be happy as hell if ECF ever goes back to being a helpful place cause the way it is today I'd never recommend someone come here.

Stay safe!!
 

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Think I'm one of da ..... placing blame, and I stand by that. I have been seriously thinking about this. What you went through was a bad thing and gotta hand ot to ya on how ya handled it(with the public around you at the time) but honest, think about the facts(from this thread) knowingly that there are no such thing as generic batteries( all 18650's are from reputable sources, rewrapped or not) the info about rewrapped batteries are out there for the masses. The basic mechanics of the stringray( clone or not) exploding are hard pressed(if it actually happened, my apologies) seems like you messed up or pushed a rewrap to specified specs(witch is past o.g. Manufacturers specs) witch is not your fault honestly.
 

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Think I'm one of da ..... placing blame, and I stand by that. I have been seriously thinking about this. What you went through was a bad thing and gotta hand ot to ya on how ya handled it(with the public around you at the time) but honest, think about the facts(from this thread) knowingly that there are no such thing as generic batteries( all 18650's are from reputable sources, rewrapped or not) the info about rewrapped batteries are out there for the masses. The basic mechanics of the stringray( clone or not) exploding are hard pressed(if it actually happened, my apologies) seems like you messed up or pushed a rewrap to specified specs(witch is past o.g. Manufacturers specs) witch is not your fault honestly.

Pfffff ain't nobody got time for all that fancy reasoning.

Sent as I vape on my StingrayX with 16 vent holes.
 

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Personally I think if you attempt builds like these...even though you know what you are doing...that it should be left at home where you can handle it without worrying that other people could get hurt.

At least you took it safely away. ...Not like that coward at the Vape meet that Pbusardo was at and just dropped it and ran.

This is form the first page, I know. But this is crazy. I walk around with a mech running from .17 to .25 all day every day. And I am very certain this will never happen.
The incident mentioned in this story claims it was just sitting in his pocket. Which means he didn't have it locked, or there was tear in the battery insulation. Both things a careful vaper would avoid.

So lets not go crazy here. The build isn't at fault here, especially if he was using a vtc5 as he claims.
 

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I'm glad you came back & responded. It's a shame out of 240 post, maybe 10 were helpful.
The fact the bashing and jokes regarding the situation continued even after every time a mod stepped in goes to show you how much has changed around here in the past year. I'll be happy as hell if ECF ever goes back to being a helpful place cause the way it is today I'd never recommend someone come here.

Stay safe!!
Why do you suppose things have changed on ECF in the past year?
 

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Perhaps. But we were all new at some point.

Of course, me being one of those new guys! ;)

Mind you, I didn't mean to suggest that new vapers are the cause of the change, just that as ECF membership increases in size, so does the number of members who are snarky or generally negative. It's a numbers game. Does that make sense? I'm not feeling very articulate today... lol
 
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I think the more vaping is attacked the more defensive some people are getting and less open to any negative experiences some users may have preceding to attack by default and while I may understand it ultimately it's another attitude that will do more harm then good to vaping. I joined this forum as I was told it was a great knowledge base with help offered by all, whilst that is still the case more or less it is less newbie friendly then it was and even though I've been vaping for over two years I still think of myself as a newbie so many things I still haven't done.
 

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I skipped a few pages, so excuse me if I missed something.

This sounds more like a switch failure than a battery failure, and is why so many regulated mods limit the length of time they can be fired.
You can make a 2 ohm cartomizer do the same thing on a mechanical if allowed to auto fire for a prolonged length of time. (just ask Baditude)

Yup, 2.0 ohm cartomizer in a cartotank on an AltSmoke BB mech mod. Trustfire 14500 ICR protected batteries :)unsure: Yeah I know, this was over 2 years ago when everyone was saying use protected batteries and that IMR batteries weren't safe. We live and learn from experience.).

Battery Basics for Mods: IMR or Protected ICR?

Anyways, I was a relatively new vaper at 2 months, and had just switched from cigalikes to a mech mod. Those Trustfire ICR batteries were what were recommended at the time. At work, I always kept my mods in my pants pocket in my locker. The protruding horn fire button on the BB got compressed in the pocket, causing the mod to continuously fire the battery until it literally exploded. Luckily, the mod's fire button acts like a vent hole, so the mod itself did not explode.

That was the last time that I used an ICR protected battery, and I switched to only IMR safe-chemistry batteries. Any over-stressed battery can vent, and mods that are not well-vented may explode from the accumulation of gas pressure.
 
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Never anything wrong with questions but there is something very wrong with attacking which is what happened a lot in this thread and was completely unnecessary and uncalled for. Fact is anyone that has been vaping for a while knows there is junk out there by knowledge and good fortune we avoid them not everyone does and bad things happen they generally tend to happen to newcomers to vaping because they go to b&M's relying on them to set them up properly. Perhaps it's one area where regulation is needed with maybe a trade body of sorts so that not just any chancer looking to make some quick cash selling junk can setup a shop.
 

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This is form the first page, I know. But this is crazy. I walk around with a mech running from .17 to .25 all day every day. And I am very certain this will never happen.
The incident mentioned in this story claims it was just sitting in his pocket. Which means he didn't have it locked, or there was tear in the battery insulation. Both things a careful vaper would avoid.

So lets not go crazy here. The build isn't at fault here, especially if he was using a vtc5 as he claims.

A 2.0 ohm coil build is at the upper limits of a VTC5. Being off just 0.1 ohm pushes even a VTC5 over the limit. We place a lot of faith into cheap ohm readers, and a post screw coming loose can unknowingly change a coil's resistance.

0.3 ohms = 14.0 amp draw
0.2 ohms = 21.0 amp draw
0.1 ohms = 42.0 amp draw
0.0 ohms = dead short = battery goes into thermal runaway

I personally never build coils lower than 0.6 ohms, because I want a lot of safe headroom for my setup. So if my ohm reader is off a little, or if a post screw comes loose, I'm a little safer. I don't use a mech mod with a bottom fire button -- I just don't believe that they are safe (even with a lock). I use a mod with a recessed, side fire button (AltSmoke Silver Bullet).

There are more and more reports of venting batteries and exploding mods now than ever before. Part of this is due to the increasing number of vapers in general, but I believe its also because so many people are getting into rebuilding coils (and in particular sub-ohm coils below 0.5 ohms). Many of these folks are getting a sub-ohm setup before doing their homework, understanding Ohms Law and how to do the calculations, pushing the limits of the batteries, or purchasing a setup from a disreputable B&M with a dangerous setup.
 
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Whewie! What a rush. I think I dripped about 3ml. reading this thread. Good thing I have a Yuengling doing the hydration chores.
Oh - Why did someone say mech mods are unsafe? I can't figure that one out.. Is it user error or a byproduct of losing your mind? :?:
A mech is basically all I've ever used and once upon a time were close to all we ever had. It's strange to see how the reputation of a mechanical mod has been defined by the thing you stick on top of it. Battery safety has always been stressed but we never had to think about the difference a tenth of an ohm might make. I generally mind my own business and if people want to make coil building their hobby and blow giant clouds that's fine by me. But I do know one thing beyond a shadow of a doubt, if quitting smoking is the true goal for somebody, walking that thin line is absolutely unnecessary. It torques me that some vapers and vape shops sell new folks on the idea that that's the way it needs to be done.
 
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