Well, my mechanical mod went BOOM.

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Lets have op chime in on maker of said stingray, then we can look up that clone manufacturer and spec's. There's only like a couple of battery manufacturers of 18650's out there. All are reputable. Doubt the battery bented for no reason at all. Needs to be put into thermal runaway. So that leads to either mech failure or user error. I own a CHEAP stringray black clone. Witch is almost identical to original, mine has 3 tubes instead of threaded for battery sizes. So the mech vent holes are the same as og. Along with the floating topcap positive pin, and magnets, and the delrin insulator used in switch, I find it hard to believe it blew or was fault of mech. I'm not saying this as a mech fan but as a person who understands this particular mech quite well.
 

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I find it hard to believe it blew or was fault of mech.

And if it is user failure, he won't be the 1st, or the last.

Why is it so important to assign *blame* here when there are so many helpful hints in the topic, posted by helpful people, and topics like this should merely serve as LEARNING EXPERIENCES and INFORMATIONALS.

How about "w, x, y, z could have caused this, and here are the ways in which w, x, y and z can happen. "

I mean, isn't that what needs to be accomplished here? We will never know for sure but by covering the possibilities of w x y z then we have covered the topic. Without assigning blame, and most of all

without making it so that no other vaper will EVER DARE post a problem like this on the forum, for fear they will be looked at as an absolute idiot. Which is why I told the OP some posts back that they were very "brave", in essence.
 

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And if it is user failure, he won't be the 1st, or the last.

Why is it so important to assign *blame* here when there are so many helpful hints in the topic, posted by helpful people, and topics like this should merely serve as LEARNING EXPERIENCES and INFORMATIONALS.

How about "w, x, y, z could have caused this, and here are the ways in which w, x, y and z can happen. "

I mean, isn't that what needs to be accomplished here? We will never know for sure but by covering the possibilities of w x y z then we have covered the topic. Without assigning blame, and most of all

without making it so that no other vaper will EVER DARE post a problem like this on the forum, for fear they will be looked at as an absolute idiot. Which is why I told the OP some posts back that they were very "brave", in essence.

Because if it was user error it needs to be said so anti vape types can't say vaping hardware is dangerous. If you will....i am 35yrs. Old. I go into a Porsche dealership and buy a gt3, first Porsche iever bought mind you. Later that night I wrap it around a poll at 150mph. And die. Then do we try to ban all automobiles or write it off as user error? Well bet ya anti vaping would side with banning all automobiles. Like I said earlier if you don't know or understand mechs, study up or leave them alone...
 

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    Agreed.

    I am still a noob at vaping, but the amount of times I have told to get a mech mod surprises me, despite them knowing I was new to this scene.
    A friend of mine bought one and was using normal kanger tanks on it, I asked him why bother with a mech if you arent that fussed about sub ohms etc (he just vapes to cut down on analogs), to which he replied "cause they're better", I asked him why, this is the reply "everyone says so bro, just go and look at the forums".




    I understand why they say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

    This isnt a dig at people who use mechs, its just frustrating when I see noobs being advised to buy mechs by experienced folks who ought to know better.

    Why give the governments another excuse/justification?

    It just boggles the mind.

    OK, I'll bite on that one.

    I was still a noob (2 months) when I bought this little guy. 4 Years later it looks & works like new. Bought it long before sub ohm or RDAs even existed.
    I had it fall out of a duck blind a couple of years ago, and it spent a week in the mud at the bottom of Ogden Bay. (my dog found it) Try that with any regulated PV!

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    OK, I'll bite on that one.

    I was still a noob (2 months) when I bought this little guy. 4 Years later it looks & works like new. Bought it long before sub ohm or RDAs even existed.
    I had it fall out of a duck blind a couple of years ago, and it spent a week in the mud at the bottom of Ogden Bay. (my dog found it) Try that with any regulated PV!

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    Way to miss the point -_-
     

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    Lets have op chime in on maker of said stingray, then we can look up that clone manufacturer and spec's. There's only like a couple of battery manufacturers of 18650's out there. All are reputable. Doubt the battery bented for no reason at all. Needs to be put into thermal runaway. So that leads to either mech failure or user error. I own a CHEAP stringray black clone. Witch is almost identical to original, mine has 3 tubes instead of threaded for battery sizes. So the mech vent holes are the same as og. Along with the floating topcap positive pin, and magnets, and the delrin insulator used in switch, I find it hard to believe it blew or was fault of mech. I'm not saying this as a mech fan but as a person who understands this particular mech quite well.

    Doubt he knows the manu when the B&M is simply going to list it as "Stingray X Style". Doubt the B&M even knows themselves...

    If you know the Stingray X or even the original Stingray then you understand my point that it should be impossible for it to explode. I don't mean "vent", I mean BOOM as the OP describes. You shouldn't be able to make one explode on purpose. There's no user error or mod failure I can imagine that could cause an explosion. BOOM means there were no vents. I've never seen a Stingray or X without vents but I don't make it a habit of searching for the cheapest possible clone available as this vendor found. Unless the OP hasn't given full disclosure to modifications/switch replacement as the vents are in the switch's threads, or it wasn't really a boom but more of a pffft! This is why posters have asked for pics so they can assess the violence of said explosion but if it warranted a mod replacement that looks more boom to me as battery venting isn't generally violent enough to bend steel.

    If we have gotten full disclosure I revert to my original blame of the B&M selling something so cheap that safety measures were passed over.
     

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    Because if it was user error it needs to be said so anti vape types can't say vaping hardware is dangerous. If you will....i am 35yrs. Old. I go into a Porsche dealership and buy a gt3, first Porsche iever bought mind you. Later that night I wrap it around a poll at 150mph. And die. Then do we try to ban all automobiles or write it off as user error? Well bet ya anti vaping would side with banning all automobiles. Like I said earlier if you don't know or understand mechs, study up or leave them alone...

    This is the sort of sentiment that I find illogical. Some vaping hardware is dangerous, as evidenced by the incidents that happen, and by the common expectations that everyone should have extensive technical knowledge and implement perfect best practices, so that we don't have to cringe in fear of losing our hardware every time we see a thread such as this.

    The fear of vaping (hardware) bans is a strong motivation, here, for many of the unhelpful reactions to posts about physiological and hardware problems related to vaping. It's an understandable human reaction, but it's purely emotionally self-serving.

    Drawing parallels to the idea of banning automobiles because of the fact that they are involved in injuries and death to humans is interesting, because of the sheer unlikeliness of such an outcome, despite so many examples of harm.

    Why would anyone who would be so ignorant as to use their power to push a vaping ban agenda be swayed the other way by the fact that some in the vaping community ridicule and ostracize those who have somewhat dangerous accidents (or mild physiological symptoms) related to vaping? I submit that they would not. The idea is illogical.

    The end result of extreme responses, driven by fear of vaping bans, is that the person who posted their experience, in hopes of sharing and/or seeking knowledge, ends up feeling ostracized. The only thing that they, and others who read such threads, learn is that it's not worth trying to discuss, as they will inevitably be treated in such a way. While that may make such threads be started less often, it in no way makes the accidents happen less often, so what good does that do any of us?

    Are cautionary tales about automobile accidents a bad thing? Not really. They promote user and manufacturer safety guidelines, in hopes of reducing accidents. Proactive discussion is inherently more useful than reactive discussion.
     

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    This is the sort of sentiment that I find illogical. Some vaping hardware is dangerous, as evidenced by the incidents that happen, and by the common expectations that everyone should have extensive technical knowledge and implement perfect best practices, so that we don't have to cringe in fear of losing our hardware every time we see a thread such as this.

    The fear of vaping (hardware) bans is a strong motivation, here, for many of the unhelpful reactions to posts about physiological and hardware problems related to vaping. It's an understandable human reaction, but it's purely emotionally self-serving.

    Drawing parallels to the idea of banning automobiles because of the fact that they are involved in injuries and death to humans is interesting, because of the sheer unlikeliness of such an outcome, despite so many examples of harm.

    Why would anyone who would be so ignorant as to use their power to push a vaping ban agenda be swayed the other way by the fact that some in the vaping community ridicule and ostracize those who have somewhat dangerous accidents (or mild physiological symptoms) related to vaping? I submit that they would not. The idea is illogical.

    The end result of extreme responses, driven by fear of vaping bans, is that the person who posted their experience, in hopes of sharing and/or seeking knowledge, ends up feeling ostracized. The only thing that they, and others who read such threads, learn is that it's not worth trying to discuss, as they will inevitably be treated in such a way. While that may make such threads be started less often, it in no way makes the accidents happen less often, so what good does that do any of us?

    Are cautionary tales about automobile accidents a bad thing? Not really. They promote user and manufacturer safety guidelines, in hopes of reducing accidents. Proactive discussion is inherently more useful than reactive discussion.

    Lol so he posted this accident looking for knowledge? Kinda a day late dollar short thing....like I said if ya don't know about mechs do some homework before purchase or leave em alone.
     

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    I use mechs all the time - but they are not tubes, so they tend to be better vented and a lot easier to dump batteries from if they get hot.

    Perhaps if instead of screwing together, tube mods had a bayonet fitting (like a European lightbulb say) on the top or bottom, it'd be a lot faster to dump a battery. It seems to me that the current solution for a shorting tube mod with a battery going thermal is to throw it as far from yourself as possible!

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    I use mechs all the time - but they are not tubes, so they tend to be better vented and a lot easier to dump batteries from if they get hot.

    Perhaps if instead of screwing together, tube mods had a bayonet fitting (like a European lightbulb say) on the top or bottom, it'd be a lot faster to dump a battery. It seems to me that the current solution for a shorting tube mod with a battery going thermal is to throw it as far from yourself as possible!

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    Gotta say, that's a good idea
     

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    I use mechs all the time - but they are not tubes, so they tend to be better vented and a lot easier to dump batteries from if they get hot.

    Perhaps if instead of screwing together, tube mods had a bayonet fitting (like a European lightbulb say) on the top or bottom, it'd be a lot faster to dump a battery. It seems to me that the current solution for a shorting tube mod with a battery going thermal is to throw it as far from yourself as possible!

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    Grenade! *Ducks behind cover*
     

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    I think the best thing for the op to do is find a better forum in future they are out there because with a few exceptions this one has been out of order with more superior and mocking people then helpful and supporting members. There are some members who have been thinking more of helping and advising the op. But far too many looking to put their worries and frustration onto the op and demonstrating why more people don't tell about incidents because who wants to go through that then go onto the internet and get what this op did. We can be a very unpleasant community at times with entirely too many "I'm all right jack" types who've forgotten they were new to things at some point.

    It isn't the op that's the problem here so much it's the b&m because replacing his mod rather then make me suspicious of the op makes me think the owner knew he was selling junk and sorted the op out quick to prevent him looking too deep. No new vaper should be bothering with mechs these days there are a variety of decent regulated devices out there to suit anyone's needs. Vaping is one big cash cow right now attracting far too many fly by night chancers looking to cash in by buying the cheapest and selling at a high mark up. They will even set you up a nice sub ohm coil without taking a second to find out if the customer knows much less understands what's needed to safely use the new setup they were sold so well.

    But never mind because thank god should anyone dare to relate a bad experience they will be jumped on and put down so hard they will never dare utter a thing against the mech mod again good job community.
     

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    See, I didn't know I just know my girl has been using mechs her whole career, she's actually what got me to become a more "high end" vaper if you will. I do know though at least (like you said) the battery should always be cool to touch however maybe the outside of the mech will get a bit warm but never "hot."
    I don't claim to be an expert on mechs I am actually not even remotely close to that lol. I like my regulated high wattage boxes, I don't see the need for a mech now n days but to each there own, if you use a 650mah ego and 510 atty I am happy for you lol.




    Ok well I have been vapeing for three years and I have probally been to 95% of shops in the GTA, never seen a VTC5 only 4s at one of them. Name the shop and I shall tell you if its good because sorry a lot of them aren't. I personally saw three days ago a shop selling fake VTC5s. They looked so bootleg it was unreal and he kicked me out when I was trying to snap some photos of the batteries to blast said shop on ecf. It doesn't help me that you were shaking like a leaf, couldn't care less. The fact that you had a mech actually explode really worrys me, the fact that I could have been on that street car with my nephew worrys me more. Just use a regulated device if you don't care to learn the ins and outs of batterys and so forth.

    Relax man...mercy take it down a notch would ya. If he was fooled by a fake VTC5 - lesson learned. If there was a scuff in the battery wrap causing a short....that happens with real VTC5s too. ALWAYS CHECK YOUR BATTERY wraps/skins for any break in the protective coating.
     
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