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drjitterbomb

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So, I am going to take the leap and see how this clone compares to the REO. I scoured alibaba and a few other similar sites and it looks like only one company (Waidea) is making them available. When selecting shipping options I see - ePacket Express by China Post. So I know this is a chinese direct buy and I am expecting the door magnets, contacts, 510 connection, spring, and paint job to be a hack job but at least when I get it I can review it and ensure that other people know to avoid it and just buy a authentic one instead.

You don't just buy a reo for the device - you buy it for the family, for the customer service, and the high quality materials. I want wandering sub viewers to know its crap and to not waste their money.
 

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They used my pictures and my text from my site . The sad part is unless there shipping them to the usa there is nothing I can do about it . Business has been slow for some time I even let two guys go earlier this year . I cant have the bodies and the delrin inserts milled for that price .

Its sad that anything you invent others will be right there like leeches feeding on your success . This was the year I planned to stop investing in the company and try to put some money away . They wont get rid of me but my company will go back to two guys at some point . I can build two many types of mods for them to put me out of business .

It will be the death of modders the sad part is the people will suffer in the end when no one is willing to put the effort into creating new products knowing if it becomes popular it will be cloned or they will move the juice hole a notch and toss there name on it .
Its one thing to make something that has already been done its another to build something new that hasn't been thought of

My name is Robert E O'Neil I put bottom fed mods on the map
 

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Well were not going anywhere if you dont rob. Everytime i feel the itch for a new reo, ill be buying directly from YOU from now on. Saves me the worry of ending up with a crap clone, and i know my money will be going where i want it to. Dont get discouraged man. YOU made my life better, not some ... holes in china
 

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They used my pictures and my text from my site . The sad part is unless there shipping them to the usa there is nothing I can do about it . Business has been slow for some time I even let two guys go earlier this year . I cant have the bodies and the delrin inserts milled for that price .

Its sad that anything you invent others will be right there like leeches feeding on your success . This was the year I planned to stop investing in the company and try to put some money away . They wont get rid of me but my company will go back to two guys at some point . I can build two many types of mods for them to put me out of business .

It will be the death of modders the sad part is the people will suffer in the end when no one is willing to put the effort into creating new products knowing if it becomes popular it will be cloned or they will move the juice hole a notch and toss there name on it .
Its one thing to make something that has already been done its another to build something new that hasn't been thought of

My name is Robert E O'Neil I put bottom fed mods on the map
:toast::headbang::thumbs::thumb:
 

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I changed the title, deleted the whole duped part.

I dont want to lead people to make a purchase to an obviously inferior piece of crap.

I beleive that REO's are perfectly priced for what you get. A damn work horse made in USA by lovely folk who live in the USA contributing to your USA. Oh, and customer service in the USA.
 

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My name is Robert E O'Neil I put bottom fed mods on the map
Yes you did!! I am so sorry business has been slow. Dunno if Jitter tried to order yet, but at least we'll know for sure if they're shipping to the US. I'm not a sue happy person, but if they are, hope it would be worth it to sue the pants of em just to make certain that Reos continue into the next millenium and beyond!! (what?? too much buzz lightyear??) And to give you the security you so richly deserve! I hope this will bring you even more business when folks try em and see how great the product can be with a truly quality one!! It could put a slight damper on some folks selling theirs if they aren't well known in the Reo community, but don't even see that being an issue with folks we know. Bad as I hate the thought of any of these being sold, might not be a bad idea to get your hands on one Rob, so that you can tell us, and we can tell others what the differences are.

Rob, you've built something that no one can ever clone......the Reo family!!! and that's priceless!!!
 

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They used my pictures and my text from my site . The sad part is unless there shipping them to the usa there is nothing I can do about it . Business has been slow for some time I even let two guys go earlier this year . I cant have the bodies and the delrin inserts milled for that price .

Its sad that anything you invent others will be right there like leeches feeding on your success . This was the year I planned to stop investing in the company and try to put some money away . They wont get rid of me but my company will go back to two guys at some point . I can build two many types of mods for them to put me out of business .

It will be the death of modders the sad part is the people will suffer in the end when no one is willing to put the effort into creating new products knowing if it becomes popular it will be cloned or they will move the juice hole a notch and toss there name on it .
Its one thing to make something that has already been done its another to build something new that hasn't been thought of

My name is Robert E O'Neil I put bottom fed mods on the map


No one looking for a REO will buy a clone.
It's been available for some time now ( about a year) and there's not a single pic from an owner on ECF.

However, a ton of vapers interested in bottom feeders, may become new REO owners based on the clone.
Looks Like you just got worldwide free advertising to me.
Bottom feeder enthusiasts will always seek the best devices.
Keep ahead with quality control and customer service and you should do better than ever.

Expecting to dominate a market isn't realistic.
We all knew this was coming, and you dodged a bullet for a very long time.

If were you I would brace for the next generation of bottom-feeder enthusiast, grown from the clone market, who will be looking for the best squonker available.

Your future is brighter than ever, you just need to change your perspective on the situation.
 

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No one looking for a REO will buy a clone.
It's been available for some time now ( about a year) and there's not a single pic from an owner on ECF.

However, a ton of vapers interested in bottom feeders, may become new REO owners based on the clone.
Looks Like you just got worldwide free advertising to me.
Bottom feeder enthusiasts will always seek the best devices.
Keep ahead with quality control and customer service and you should do better than ever.

Expecting to dominate a market isn't realistic.
We all knew this was coming, and you dodged a bullet for a very long time.

If were you I would brace for the next generation of bottom-feeder enthusiast, grown from the clone market, who will be looking for the best squonker available.

Your future is brighter than ever, you just need to change your perspective on the situation.

Dude, that was awesome Ninja. Very well written and inspiring.
 

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So, I am going to take the leap and see how this clone compares to the REO. I scoured alibaba and a few other similar sites and it looks like only one company (Waidea) is making them available. When selecting shipping options I see - ePacket Express by China Post. So I know this is a chinese direct buy and I am expecting the door magnets, contacts, 510 connection, spring, and paint job to be a hack job but at least when I get it I can review it and ensure that other people know to avoid it and just buy a authentic one instead.

You don't just buy a reo for the device - you buy it for the family, for the customer service, and the high quality materials. I want wandering sub viewers to know its crap and to not waste their money.

@drjitterbomb when and if you get this, and notice any differences, how bout sending it on to @super_X_drifter and let him do a video on it? I'm sure he would love to tear it apart also.
 

drjitterbomb

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@drjitterbomb when and if you get this, and notice any differences, how bout sending it on to @super_X_drifter and let him do a video on it? I'm sure he would love to tear it apart also.

I am expecting it to be just like the piece of crap kui I bought (and was going to review except I couldn't get the damn door to stay on) and I will send it to @super_X_drifter when I am done just as long as he promises to run it over with that fancy car of his.

EDIT: I wanna see if it actually will handle a proper REO abuse test or will just crack because its made out of chinesium.
 

drjitterbomb

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Jup......it's quite the toss up between calling them out to make folks aware of them, so they don't get duped by someone.....and not giving them more publicity!

Good point but you only get duped if you are expecting one thing but get another. In this case, you know you are getting a knockoff and highlighting the real thing.
 

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Good point but you only get duped if you are expecting one thing but get another. In this case, you know you are getting a knockoff and highlighting the real thing.
Jup, that's how I feel about it. Words gonna spread regardless....... so best that word also spread about there are now 1:1 fakes out there. Even more than the kui or whatever that was.
 

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They used my pictures and my text from my site . The sad part is unless there shipping them to the usa there is nothing I can do about it . Business has been slow for some time I even let two guys go earlier this year . I cant have the bodies and the delrin inserts milled for that price .

Its sad that anything you invent others will be right there like leeches feeding on your success . This was the year I planned to stop investing in the company and try to put some money away . They wont get rid of me but my company will go back to two guys at some point . I can build two many types of mods for them to put me out of business .

It will be the death of modders the sad part is the people will suffer in the end when no one is willing to put the effort into creating new products knowing if it becomes popular it will be cloned or they will move the juice hole a notch and toss there name on it .
Its one thing to make something that has already been done its another to build something new that hasn't been thought of

My name is Robert E O'Neil I put bottom fed mods on the map

If buisness is slow in the past its cause ya made too good a product that lasts! Lol

Back in the day they used to make refridgerators built like a tank and it ended up hurting sales cause no one ever bought a new model cause they didn't need to! Then they got smart and made them cheaper so they would not last thst many years! Sales were up!

Updating the design and coming out with new colors will keep the people buying new mods ;)
 

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Its one thing to make something that has already been done its another to build something new that hasn't been thought of

My name is Robert E O'Neil I put bottom fed mods on the map
Where is that LOVE button when you need it? I can't "like" this enough.
 
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