Went to the doctors office Monday

[Baditude]

I don't like to call my vaporizer an e-cig. I don't think it is a cigarette at all. It is a vaporizer with none of the bad chemicals of a cigarette. In the same sense, I do look for quality-made juices. Anyway, I don't smoke.

If I call it an e-cigarette, it just sets off alarms in un-informed people.

This.

Depending upon who I'm speaking to or who asks, I usually describe my "device" as an advanced vaporizer. If that produces a then I'll say it's a fancy e-cigarette, and they usually can relate to that.

My personal physician calls my Provari a "water pipe" and has written so in my medical records. He was unaware of anything other than the disposable cigalikes sold in convenience stores, but at least was willing to listen to my explanation of about 10 minutes length on how vaping allowed me to stop smoking. He has an open mind and was genuinely impressed.

 

[scscheib]

Interesting Bad, I have yet to tell my Doc. Just haven't seen him since I started and quit smoking. I think its just based off of their experience with the devices and any good Doc would have an open mind, I think!

 

[Kabooma]

This.

Depending upon who I'm speaking to or who asks, I usually describe my "device" as an advanced vaporizer. If that produces a then I'll say it's a fancy e-cigarette, and they usually can relate to that.

My personal physician calls my Provari a "water pipe" and has written so in my medical records. He was unaware of anything other than the disposable cigalikes sold in convenience stores, but at least was willing to listen to my explanation of about 10 minutes length on how vaping allowed me to stop smoking. He has an open mind and was genuinely impressed.

Yeah, I get that. When I first answered with "I vape" and she looked at me and clearly didn't get it, that's when I said E-cig.. and it was obvious that she was pre-programmed by someone to be anti-vape and/or to equal it to smoking.

I guess it's been eating at me because 6 months or so ago, I tried to buy life insurance and they failed me on the physical because of nicotine in my system. I was clear to them about vaping, but they accused me of lying on the forms when I checked the box that I didn't smoke, regardless that I checked the box for "nicotine replacement" where they listed wellbutrin, gum, and patches...

I noticed since then that other life insurance companies have cut us off at the curve by changing the term "smoking" to "nicotine use", thus making anyone who uses nicotine have the same rates and risk as smokers. I can't find a decent policy being rated as a smoker.

It's BS

 

[DC2]

I would have had a field day with this nurse.

 

[Sally_]

I recently got life insurance and vaping labeled me as a tobacco user and I have to pay more. It's clearly different, I'm still really really angry about it, ....ing ....... They think nicotine = tobacco. Tobacco is fine, its the thousands of chemicals they put into it to make it burn faster so you buy more, .......n greedy animals.

I agree that this sucks, but I don't see any way around it.

Smoking is detrimental to peoples health, we all know it greatly increasing the likelihood of severe illness and makes smokers at higher risk so it's more expensive. If someone gets a DUI, their insurance goes up because they have a higher risk. Unfortunately for us, the only way they could check for this was finding nicotine in the blood. Ecigs have changed the game dramatically, but there isn't a test to distinguish the two.

I had a similar situation with a PA, I was still smoking, but also using an ecig. I don't have a poker face even when I want to, but before he even got a couple sentences out how they're unregulated and untested, he threw in the towel and and awkwardly changed the subject.

 

[Bunnykiller]

Easy answer to that question.... Do You Smoke???
NO... or "I quit smoking X amount of time ago"
dont even mention vaping since thay have no idea what it is and will classify you as a smoker

 

[Buggainok]

I'm on Medicare, and last time I checked, they can't kick you off for "smoking" or other kind of nicotine use, I hope. But that could be coming in the future, for all I know.

That said, for those of you who have to have blood tests for your insurance, do they have the same rules about using the patch or gum? Would that show up on your test as nicotine and you would have to pay extra because of it? What if you were under a doctor's care, and they prescribed the patch or gum? Would that be allowed?

 

[Johnny Popular]

My doc is okay with it. Lung function up O2 saturation through the roof from where it was when I smoked. I hope my doctor does not retire, seeing as how he is getting on in years.

 

[zanthious]

just because you use a diff device for your fix doesn't mean you don't smoke. ..., maybe im the only one here ok with the fact i went from smoking cigs to smoking an e-cig...

who cares what a nurse thinks anyway, if you wanna lie to her then lie to her.

 

[EleanorR]

At the doctor's this week, my oxygen saturation was 98%.

My lungs are (and have been for a while now) perfectly clear.

I have been vaping for just over three years now, and both my doctors "back home" (I moved in late 2012) loved that I switched!

The medical records kept by my new doctor state that I am a non-smoker.

YAY VAPING!!! (Boo hiss ANTZ and dopey insurance companies! )

 

[Frenchfry1942]

Y'know, when a woman says, "I went to the doctor's office on Monday...". It an be a very scary thought. Just now noticed it.

 

[EleanorR]

Y'know, when a woman says, "I went to the doctor's office on Monday...". Can be a very scary thought. Just know noticed it.

Not pregnant. Chronically ill.

The good news is it won't kill me.

The bad news is it won't kill me.

 

[DC2]

Ecigs have changed the game dramatically, but there isn't a test to distinguish the two.

Actually, there is a test that can be used, but it apparently only covers five hours...
Breath carbon monoxide as an indication of s... [Singapore Med J. 2004] - PubMed - NCBI

 

[DC2]

just because you use a diff device for your fix doesn't mean you don't smoke. ...

Yes, actually, that is exactly what it means.

 

[Frenchfry1942]

Actually, there is a test that can be used, but it apparently only covers five hours...
Breath carbon monoxide as an indication of s... [Singapore Med J. 2004] - PubMed - NCBI

I wonder if the ANTZ will make us use one before we leave our home.

 

[doctadrea]

I just say I quit. Because I did. I have healthy non smoker lungs and bp now.

 

[Dominique Hoogduin]

Well guess we need some flyers explaning our new lifestyle choice.

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[Junglegemcity]

I went to the doctor and the nurse asked. I replied with a simple "no". She wrote that down and then I saw the doctor. Told him I have been using a PV and he seemed to know the idea but not the ins and outs like we do. He replied saying that "nicotine doesn't kill people, smoke does" and that was that. This is a simple reply that makes a lot of sense coming from a doctor.

 

[Junglegemcity]

He also said that the same reason that humidifiers "steam" and tea kettles "steam" is the reason that we are now non-smokers. If something resembles smoke it doesn't mean it is. Skittles resemble m&m's, yet aren't chocolate.

 

[milescadre]

As far as the company I work for (I wont mention any names), I dont smoke or use nicotine products.

As far as my local place of work knows, my entire location knows I vape and that I dont smoke or use nicotine. So they say to corproate "No he doesnt smoke"

That being said, It really varies and since I dont use nicotine I just say "I dont smoke." no need ot sya "I vape"

If I werei nthat situation, I'd say "I use a nicotine vaporizer" and not "vape" or "Ecigarettes"