I got the 50 mls for $22.50 after discount of 25% off at electronic-ash.com sale ends May 6th. Go to the suppliers forum to find him and go look at his first post with the discount code, can't remember what it is. The juice is decent, but it's not outstanding, but I just got about 100 mls of their menthol and it's decent. It works for the price in these desperate stocking up times. LOL My friend said the vanilla is not good.