What about the children?

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Ron Pinckard

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[h=1]Ecigs - "Won't Someone Think Of The Children?"[/h]The anti-vaping cry of "what about the children" is shouted all too often.
It has a flip side.
Those who are against ecigs for the sake of "the children" really need to think this through a little more.

Bearing in mind a percentage of the smoking population will not be able to quit using currently "approved" NRT's and other methods, if we're going to talk about the impact of vaping and ecigs on children; consider the points below.

The following is not directed towards smokers, but those who are getting in the way of smokers switching to vaping and allowing them to reap the many benefits for themselves and consequently, for their children.

Economic

What about the children living in the household of someone who is spending huge amounts of money to feed their nicotine habit via smoking?

This is a habit that with some modification can cost up to 90% less (depending on where you live) by simply switching to vaping. This can redirect a substantial amount of money back into a household for other purposes; such as better catering to the needs of children.

Comfort

Think about the children with reddened eyes and choking in the back seats of vehicles or in lounge rooms on their parent's smoke. I remember those days very well.

Ecig vapour dissipates quickly and is usually not irritating.

Quality time

What about the children who don't get to enjoy enough quality play or other time with their parents as the parents are too tired or out of puff to fully participate as a result of their smoking?

People who switch to ecigs often experience a marked improvement in energy levels.

Stink

Think about the children whose clothes adopt the often unpleasant smell of their smoking parents.

Ecig scents also tend to dissipate rapidly.

Addiction

What about the children who are physically set up for tobacco addiction through their parents smoking?
I was probably one of those children. I lived in a house that was often heavily tainted by cigarette smoke.
However, with ecigs; so-called "second-hand" vapour contains next to no nicotine.

Health

Think about the children whose health is being negatively affected through second-hand smoke.

Second-hand ecig vapour does not carry anywhere near the risk of second-hand smoke.
Death
What about the children who have lost a parent to lung cancer or other diseases as a result of smoking?
A child without a parent is often at a disadvantage. If vaping can extend life as well as improve the quality of it; then that is worth something to not just the smoker, but also the child.
In summary..

If people want to raise the "won't someone think of the children" argument; then they are better off making it in defense of vaping, not in an attempt to abolish it. Failing to do so will only leave them with blood on their hands of smokers, and that of the next generation - the children of now.

Yes, there needs to be safeguards in place to keep ecigs out of the hands of children and any responsible vaper takes the necessary steps. Yes, the industry needs to also play its role in this regard.

However, banning ecigs based on "what about the children" arguments is throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

This generation could be the last generation of smokers - if ecigs are given the chance and support they deserve. I believe history will judge electronic cigarettes as one of the greatest inventions of the 21st century.

The focus of discussion around switching to ecigs should be one about harm minimisation benefits rather than forcing a utopian result in a less than utopian environment - the world we live in.

Like all long journeys, the road to quitting begins with a single step and vaping is a step that can have benefits for all; including children.

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It seems people use the " it's for the children line" when they don't have a better argument. After all how can you be a good person and not think of the children. It has worked very well for them.
This is very true. There are parallels in other "industries" as well. The "what about the children" argument is intended to remove reason and insert emotion into an argument. It's effective because people allow it to be. If one remains aware of the facts, doesn't allow emotion into the debate, and maintains a clear view of the objective, vaping always wins out. Just as OP Ron Pinckard eloquently points out.

The children argument often has to do with appearance. They don't want children to see something which looks like glorified smoking...
Possibly. But more "they" are using a logical fallacy to stop reasonable debate. As I said, it is a widely used and unfortunately effective tactic on an un-critical mass of people.
 
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Possibly. But more "they" are using a logical fallacy to stop reasonable debate. As I said, it is a widely used and unfortunately effective tactic on an un-critical mass of people.

It works; that's all that matters. When children are brought, up legislation passes for fear of being labeled against the children. There is no rebuttal...
 

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The "think about the children" argument has gotten to the point where every time I see one, I'm tempted to slap it. I never, ever would, but I'm tired of hearing about it as an excuse for everything an adult can't think of a more reasonable argument to push their agenda.

Yes please. I hate to suggest it been over done, but there are multiple threads about the subject.

Arggggg.
 

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Let's try this......You raise your kids and I won't stick my nose in your busiess. I raise my kids and you don't mettle in my family affairs. You don't care about my kids and I won't care about yours......Otherwise, I'll ask you for for some money for piano lessons. :p

We live in a climate of 'progressive' politics.

"we have to break through our kind of private idea that kids belong to their parents or kids belong to their families, and recognize that kids belong to their communities."
M.H.Perry
 

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This may be way out there but a buddy of mine just past this to me reminding me that kids spend 8 - 10 hours sleeping.

New Mattresses are BAD

Brand new mattresses may seem gorgeous and beautiful on the outside. But really, they’re a crapfest of toxic, cancer-causing chemicals. These include polyurethane foam, formaldehyde, boric acid, antimony (a heavy metal similar to arsenic) and worst of all, polybrominated diphenyl ethers (also known as flame ......ants). They are all wreaking havoc on your sleep and health.

The biggest problem with all mattress chemicals is that they emit strong gasses that can make you and your family sick. Really sick. They’re linked to asthma, allergies, neurological disorders, SIDS, reproductive problems, thyroid disruption, and various forms of cancer. Recent testing from the government has confirmed it!

Growing evidence shows that PBDE compounds are escaping from the products they protect and making their way into the products’ users. Moreover, the chemicals may disrupt human thyroid hormone functioning and cause other health effects.

I haven't heard much about this but maybe it's time for the kids to sleep on the floor.
 

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Yep, Stevegmu, "It Takes a Village." :( You lose control of your kid at the school's door.

Okay! Straw pallets will become the "in thing" with the "Takes a Village" set......At least it'd be cheaper. :laugh:

I too think that the cries of racisim and it's for the children are getting old and misused. They're not as effective any more and people in general are tired of hearing them said. :mad:
 
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