What am I missing with the spinner?

[BiXLL]

I have been using my spinner for 2 days now and I am really not all that impressed versus my X2s. If I dial it all the way up it taste burnt with my tobaco juices. It is ok at 4.3 but I really do not not notice a big difference. What am I missing or doing wrong that the vv should give me a better experiance?

 

[MiamiMom63]

If you are tasting a burnt taste, definitely dial it down. Flavor and performance relies a lot upon what clearo or carto type you are using on it. Some are better than others with your favorite flavor. Are you using a different clearo/cart than you have used on your X2's that you seem to prefer?

 

[MiamiMom63]

Keep in mind if you want to vape at a higher voltage like 4.8v, you will need to stay away from the lower ohm carts/clearos and use standard 2.5 ohms or even 2.8 ohms. Depends on what you are using.

 

[BiXLL]

I am using T3s with both. Its not that I prefer the X2s, its just that I was expecting "bigger, better, badder" from the spinner. To me it is not much different at all??????

 

[Justen]

Trying to learn about the voltage and ohm thing, i understand electricity basics, but whats the point or benefit of setting a higher voltage with regular ohm vs lower voltage and lower ohm? Basically im curious what the ability to change the voltage does when u can use different ohm clearo's and carto's. Doesnt using a lower ohm pull more power from the batt anyway?

 

[BiXLL]

Ah comon, with all the great reviews on the spinner with T3s I was reading before I bought one and nobody can tell me what I am doing wrong?

 

[Dac311]

I've said it before and so has imagine. SI designs their products to work best at 3.7 volts. Anytime I've tried to use an SI juice or product on anything higher than 4.3 v it just doesn't work well. I think 4.3 is the perfect setting. But it's not knock your socks off better. I think it might be better for dialing down voltage for fruit and dessert flavors than for going all the way to 4.8.

 

[laddu ga]

Trying to learn about the voltage and ohm thing, i understand electricity basics, but whats the point or benefit of setting a higher voltage with regular ohm vs lower voltage and lower ohm? Basically im curious what the ability to change the voltage does when u can use different ohm clearo's and carto's. Doesnt using a lower ohm pull more power from the batt anyway?

justen, take a look at a vaping voltage chart. Imageshack - unled66.jpg This gives an idea about what voltages to use with different resistances. Variable voltage allows for fine tuning how hot you get your coil versus fixed voltage. This allows you to vape at different temperatures using the same clearo or carto. Some juices taste better if they are vaped hotter and some less hot. VV gives u the ability to adjust without having to try a juice in several different ohm clearos. Hope I cleared it up some.

 

[MiamiMom63]

Also, it's sort of nice have a vv device because then no matter what ohm carto/clearo you have, you can use it and just dial in what tastes best for that particular carto/clearo. Some prefer low voltage vaping, some prefer higher voltage vaping. I prefer 5v on some things, and about 4.6v on other things, depending on the juice I'm using and the clearo I'm using at the time. It takes a little playing around with to find your sweet spot. For instance, I use the Vivi Nova's at 2.8 ohms. At first when the coil is fresh and strong, I vape it at about 4.8v, give or take. After the coil starts to get gunked up and older and starts lowering in ohms, I can dial it down to 4.4v or whatever and keep using it with a good outcome.

 

[cindycated]

I think eventually you're gonna run into a situation that calls for lower or higher voltage. For a really long time (before SI Spinners were around), I was craving white chocolate in a really bad way. I ordered it from ECBlends and VaporRenu and it burned up immediately in my Volt cartos. I'm talking BURNT: uber-burny taste from the get-go, black liquid. Never did taste the white chocolate. Ended up eating a real candy bar instead.

This probably doesn't happen all that often, but the last X2 I got (in January) runs hot. Burns all my cartos, but I found out that T3s aren't so bad on this one batt (not a big fan of the T3s and clearos), so it's all good. For that possibility alone, I'm leaning toward upgrading all my batts to Spinners now.

Like Dac and Imagine said, all of their stuff (cartos, clearos, etc.) is designed to work with the standard 3.7V and that's where your setting will probably be most of the time anyway, but you never know what you're gonna run into, and having the room to play probably wouldn't be such a bad thing.

 

[Mroutlaw]

Trying to learn about the voltage and ohm thing, i understand electricity basics, but whats the point or benefit of setting a higher voltage with regular ohm vs lower voltage and lower ohm? Basically im curious what the ability to change the voltage does when u can use different ohm clearo's and carto's. Doesnt using a lower ohm pull more power from the batt anyway?

It takes a lot of understanding of ohms law, but the benefit to using higher voltage with higher ohm coils vs lower voltage with lower ohm is battery life. The latter will use more amps, thus using the battery faster.


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[Mroutlaw]

Ah comon, with all the great reviews on the spinner with T3s I was reading before I bought one and nobody can tell me what I am doing wrong?

Your not doing anything wrong. It all comes down to preference. Usually the taste factor is from slight adjustments, not big ones. You get more vapor with higher voltage, but it will produce more of a burnt taste. I pretty much keep all my variable voltage between 3.6 and 4.0. The only time I turn it up much higher is when the coil is gunked up and vapor production has gone down. The higher voltage will help overcome that.

Keep anything sweet on the lower end of the voltage scale for optimum flavor. I prefer mints and menthols around 4.0


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[Esoterica3]

One reason I decided to try the spinner, is that one juice I have from Halo, that I love (or used to), just never tasted "right" in the CE3s (Actually several of the ones I Loved in a carto taste not so good in a CE3, but for now I'll look at Halo tribecca).

It's OK in a CE3, but always seemed too hot/harsh to properly taste. Tribecca is very subtle (SI original RYE 4 Is similar in that way to me).

Yet I've gotten too lazy to go back to the cartos (constant topping off and all that).

Decided to try the VV spinner and see if I was right...and I was. It tastes good again (not as good as I remember it can be...but maybe that's just me ATM) on the very lowest setting of the spinner...VV3.3 I believe.

Very NICE! I did get some T3s with these, but haven't had time yet to try them. Will try them w/the spinner very soon.

 

[Esoterica3]

Double post Again! SHeesh...

 

[WorksForMe]

I have been using my spinner for 2 days now and I am really not all that impressed versus my X2s. If I dial it all the way up it taste burnt with my tobaco juices. It is ok at 4.3 but I really do not not notice a big difference. What am I missing or doing wrong that the vv should give me a better experiance?

You’re not doing anything wrong. It’s been my experience that tobacco flavored juices do better at lower voltages. I have a 650 Spinner that I use at about 3.5 volts unless I want a stronger TH or if I want to burn off the extra juice on a gurgling coil. VV batteries work well with other flavors that taste better at higher temperatures. My Spinner sits in a drawer most of the time, because I don’t like having to screw it into a charger rather than just plugging in a usb cable.

J.R.

 

[BiXLL]

Maybe my expectations of a difference in vape I would get from dialing up the spinner was a little high, but my first impression is that in my situation just doing different tobaccos I don't see a major improvement over my 1300 X2s.

 

[Baptyzmbyf1re]

Oh my. How did I let this slip by me? Man ... this is what happens when you get all settled in and happy. Then work kicks your .... and another semester at school (the last!) starts and you just don't make time to visit the forums. A VV SI product? Holy crap....

Guess its time to break out the CC again.

 

[Justjames]

Some flavors like it hot but some don't, I guess. I now don't have spinner but will soon. I use both manual and auto X2, I found that some flavor , fruit, would get a burnt or mute taste with manual especially after fully charge, but give a good stable flavor with Auto. Some like coffee yield a good result only with Manual and best with fully charge. I think that the benefit of VV where you can dial to different kind of flavor.

 

[SteveI]

Since SI products are all meant to work together, 3.7v is a good experience overall. Improvements will be marginal. That being said, there is always room for improvement, subjectively of course. Generally speaking, sweets may be better at lower voltages, and tobaccos higher.

Also, for me anyway, I have noticed my CE3's like lower voltages, in the range of 3.3-3.5v. My T3's are best at 4.0-4.3v. Bottom line is the spinner gives room for improvement if the combination of juice + coils doesn't feel optimal. It may not be a huge improvement, but having flexibility is nice, especially when experimenting.

 

[Imagine]

this is basically why we consider it intermediate to advanced

Since SI products are all meant to work together, 3.7v is a good experience overall. Improvements will be marginal. That being said, there is always room for improvement, subjectively of course. Generally speaking, sweets may be better at lower voltages, and tobaccos higher.

Also, for me anyway, I have noticed my CE3's like lower voltages, in the range of 3.3-3.5v. My T3's are best at 4.0-4.3v. Bottom line is the spinner gives room for improvement if the combination of juice + coils doesn't feel optimal. It may not be a huge improvement, but having flexibility is nice, especially when experimenting.