So I am going to take the plunge on an APV. And to think 3 weeks ago I was happy with a blu because I wanted to to be stealth lol. Well I am over that and this is a big decision because this will be my last purchase for a while or my wife may kill me lol. So my question is should I get an evic which I can pick up tomorrow or a vamo which I will have to order online. Man I hate waiting for the mail. Obviously the evic is higher in price but if I have read correctly you have to buy batteries and a charger while evic can charge the battery itself and has a pass through option so I think that about evens price out. So what would be best. I am a newbie if that makes a difference. Thanks guys.
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An eVic??? Ummm...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/the-ocelot/3408-presenting-evic.html
ETA: I meant do you want to use VV/VW or run a software program?
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/the-ocelot/3408-presenting-evic.html
ETA: I meant do you want to use VV/VW or run a software program?
Vamo because evic has been called a glorified puff counter by some and it costs a lot.
I'm not sure if the Vamo is a true VW, you have to adjust your wattage manually according to what you're vaping. The eVic does it automatically, although if you want to set it to a higher wattage.
I would hold off a bit for the evic. There's already been a recall and the firmware seem a bit iffy to me. Personally, given your choices I would opt for the Vamo.
While that blog was funny and I am sure it can be applied to any kind of business it doesn't really help me lol. I think the program in it makes it versatile so joytech can adjust to what vapers ask for. Probably not the power but the Function if the screen. I guess the vamo is stronger with more watts and volts which is why I am debating either way but from what I see with the vamo I will have to get 2 big batteries and a short battery to run it in the smaller size or 4 smaller batteries so I can keep some charged. I am guessing both are constant voltage where it doesn't lower as it dies.(can't think of what it's called). Thanks for the help so far guys tough decision for me.
Well I could get anything I guess up to $110ish out the door with everything I need as that's roughly what I would spend on the evic but I just wanted to put the ones I was debating about so I didn't get like 20 different suggestions lol.
For the price difference and the fact that this is your first APV I would go with the Vamo. I have both. The Vamo is much easier to operate and start vaping away. It works very well for half the price. The evic is a cool toy and if your into the techy side is fun to play with. When it comes down to a nice clean APV that gets the job done very well the VAMO is excellent. If you have the funds to play then get one of each and enjoy.
Just because *some* called it a glorified puff counter, or just because it has a puff counter doesn't mean that it's not a really good PV. As for the price, a $104 price-tag is a very good price for the first -smart PV- in the world. Not mentioning the sleek design (unlike the VAMO) and the real LCD screen (which is a first in PVs too).
1. Even BMW does recalls on certain production batches of their cars every now and then. Is a "recall" really a bad thing?
To me, it means the manufacturer cares about the quality of their product and the satisfaction of their customers.
2. How many completely defective VAMOs are there?
3. Did/would any VAMO or VAMO-knockoff manufacturers EVER announce a recall and exchange units for free? (Try calling and testing the quality of customer service, or if anyone would pickup at all)
4. How about a firmware update being released for the eVic in a month of releasing it? Doesn't this count?
5. How about another firmware version expected to be released within a month? This doesn't count either?
Give me some valid reasons and I'll admit it's a "glorified" PV other than "he said and she said" and I'll probably agree with you. Otherwise, maybe "he or she" didn't do the device justice and had over-expectations! To me, the eVic is just as good as the provari (I'll trade 1 volt difference to the good looks of the eVic)
I am not affiliated with Joytech or Ovale, but I've been advised on these forums to keep away from the eVic. I followed my intuition and ordered one and I'm GLAD I DID!
To the OP: I think the eVic is worth every penny, and since you're already thinking about it. GO FOR IT! It's a really good performing, good looking PV with upgradable firmware and an analysis software, and it's worth the investment.
EDIT: In my world, I follow common sense, not celebrities.
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Hi Worthatry. I can say this, If I where shopping for an APV I would readily pick the Vamo. I suggest it because of the overall ease of use, and the VW setting is nicer(in my opinion) than the old(nearly dead copy of Nokia circa 1997)clunky option interface of the Evic. I cant see wanting to wrangle through two plus menus deep in order to adjust your wattage, why it doesnt read the load attached and correct itself is beyond all comprehension. Besides that have you ever really wanted to count your puffs? Does it matter to you? having the ability to attach it to your pc is ok but why so you can change the layout of the screen? or can keep track or your vape habits? Rather nonsensical if you ask me. While the Evic is a rather nice looking unit and I'm certain that it works well for all those who own one. I think it is just a little too much software while not being quite enough in the hardware department.
In my opinion the Vamo is a good device to get most anyone out of the ho-hum of the fixed voltage units and get off to a good start and for rather cheap to boot. If you want to run the unit in short mode I would say get 4 imr18350 batteries and a good dual bay charger. If you dont really care to ever run it in short mode then just get a pair of imr18650s and a good (still preferably dual bay) charger. It has a nice enough menu system that it appears easy to learn and a high enough amp rating that it will run just about everything you could screw into it. Thats just my two pennies. Good Luck. Happy Vaping.
In my opinion the Vamo is a good device to get most anyone out of the ho-hum of the fixed voltage units and get off to a good start and for rather cheap to boot. If you want to run the unit in short mode I would say get 4 imr18350 batteries and a good dual bay charger. If you dont really care to ever run it in short mode then just get a pair of imr18650s and a good (still preferably dual bay) charger. It has a nice enough menu system that it appears easy to learn and a high enough amp rating that it will run just about everything you could screw into it. Thats just my two pennies. Good Luck. Happy Vaping.
I have the evic, I like the evic. It has been my all day every day vape since it showed up, still scratching my head wondering why so many seem to hate the thing. I haven't seen many accurate reviews on it, most misreport the amp limit and measure the voltage output with the wrong equipment and claim the device is inaccurate. Oddly enough, my works flawlessly and is pretty spot on.
Vamo seems like a great addiction to a APV family but the eVic would get my recommendation for a first APV. Unless you want to run a 5 ohm atty, then evic won't do that well.
Vamo seems like a great addiction to a APV family but the eVic would get my recommendation for a first APV. Unless you want to run a 5 ohm atty, then evic won't do that well.
As of firmware update V1.1, the wattage is adjust on the main screen. Switching between voltage and wattage however is still 2 menus in.
As I only have exp with the Vamo I cannot make a fair call. I like the ease of the Vamo and agree with Iusetoanalog's post.
On another note...if this is your first there are some great eGo starter kits that will provide 2 batteries, charger, Vivi tank, heads and a case for 1/2 the price, all you need is da juice. Or at least find the Vamo starter! It may serve you in the long run without breaking the bank.
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On another note...if this is your first there are some great eGo starter kits that will provide 2 batteries, charger, Vivi tank, heads and a case for 1/2 the price, all you need is da juice. Or at least find the Vamo starter! It may serve you in the long run without breaking the bank.
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I'm in the same boat trying to decide between these two. smoktek.com vamo kit with one battery and charger would be around $80, while I could get an evic from vapingme.com for around $10 more. I'm sure I'd be happy either way coming from an ego twist, but I've had a lot of buyers remorse already during the short time I've been vaping.
Big deal! There's a puff count on the screen, and expected puffs left based on the voltage. It might not be that important, but does that really make the eVic such a bad PV?! Who's not making sense here?
Please tell me this is a joke.. Keeping track of your vaping habits is nonsensical? I'll leave that to those with a little sense to think about..
A little justice here, but there's no such thing as "too much software", if you don't need to use it, set it aside and keep vaping..!
I do not plan on vaping forever, one day I will use the software to check my vaping habits and taper down on the nicotine and I'm sure it will be VERY useful when I need it. As for the hardware, I don't personally think the average -and even the pro- vaper would need more than what the eVic offers.. I do not need to puff clouds of vapor like an old coal train's chimney. The 5Volts with a 2.4ohm atomizer gives as much vapor as a a hookah does, that's already A LOT!
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While I don't have a dog in this fight, not having either, I think if the choice were mine, I would pick the Vamo. My reason in a nutshell would boil down to I think the menuing system is better and more straight forward. This actually pains me a bit because I love the idea, and the vision, of the eVic, I just think it falls well short of the potential. And while true that most of the deficiencies I think it has can be addressed via firmware updates, there is no guarantee that they will be, so the buying decision must be about what is available, not what might come.
Just my thoughts and opinions, of course, and I don't think either is a bad decision.
Just my thoughts and opinions, of course, and I don't think either is a bad decision.
This is not a rip type of question. It is an actual sincere question. Have you heard if they will be doing wattage matching from one load to the next? What load and voltage(or wattage) do you use on the Evic with your favorite liquids? What delivery ststem is most often attached to it?
I Do think its a nice looking mod, I actually like the fact it doesn't have a display that looks like it was stolen from some cheap wrist watch.... If they are actually going to continue to upgrade the mod then thats great.....
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