What are the differences between cheap and expensive setup??

[piggypinggy]

Hi all, I am new to e-cig and currently using CE5
I am wondering what are the differences between cheap and expensive setup??
What brands are expensive? like Lamborghini and Ferrari(I just want to check them out)
Thanks ! Have a great weekend!

 

[vsummer1]

To me, ego's and CE5's are expensive because they are cheap. They will fail, and you must replace them over and over again.

I would rather pay a bit more upfront and have a unit that lasts with a good warranty. I prefer dripping, so the good old warrantied USA made REO is my choice, with a rebuildable RM2. Up front it costs more, but now I only replace the battery and some wire/wick. But I have been running it a year and haven't needed a thing.

 

[Mark Anthony]

Ok..... I'll do it.... Provari.... There, I said it.

 

[Bunnykiller]

well there is CHEAP and there is inexpensive and there is affordable and there is outragiously ridiciously unaffordable.

fasttech has the first 3 levels
4$ tanks that leak, 11$ batteries that fail
10$ tanks that work, 21$ batteries that are adjustable (VV/VW)
25$ tanks you can rebuild, 50$ units with batteries and charger
but for the absurd
280$ tanks and 180$ Battery tubes ( batteries not included)

 

[djsvapour]

I'm not that fussed about outright value, but my experience tells me to be careful.

Neither of my Spinners lasted a year. They were $30, so that's $60 over say 10 months...$6 a month.
My eVic lasted 5 months. $20 a month.

These days I use cheap VV/VWs (SID, MVP). For the price they are, they will beat the eVic very quickly.

Expensive should work out better in the long run, but some products are simply not up to it. What say you Joyetech?

 

[rowdyplace]

Politely, I take the other road.

Ce4/Ce5 style attys are the cheaper when you consider the expense in dollars and time. These items cost about $2, and last a good week - minimum. The time to fill, refill, and toss is minimum each week. Even the Kanger T3's fit into this category. These may cost a little more $5 each - and add about another 2 minutes a week to change out the premade internals and only a very few dollars more.

On the other hand, with the rebuildables, the initial expense seems high, but that is nothing compared to the amount of time consumed building your own coil assembly several times a week. Not to mention the mess, dirty hands, and sticky PV.

Just my experience to date.

 

[vsummer1]

well there is CHEAP and there is inexpensive and there is affordable and there is outragiously ridiciously unaffordable.

Fasttech has the first 3 levels
4$ tanks that leak, 11$ batteries that fail
10$ tanks that work, 21$ batteries that are adjustable (VV/VW)
25$ tanks you can rebuild, 50$ units with batteries and charger
but for the absurd
280$ tanks and 180$ Battery tubes ( batteries not included)

You are going to have to go higher on the price for the absurd.
Shisha Sticks Sofia - The World's Most Expensive E-Cigarette | E-Cigarette Reviews and Rankings

A well made ecig for $180 pays the maker for the materials, design and time and is in no way absurd since it is a one time purchase. The above is absurd!

 

[Keeferes]

Hi all, I am new to e-cig and currently using CE5
I am wondering what are the differences between cheap and expensive setup??
What brands are expensive? like Lamborghini and Ferrari(I just want to check them out)
Thanks ! Have a great weekend!

Best way I have seen to see ridiculous expensive setups... Pbusardo on YouTube. That guy reveiws just about everything, but he has alot of stuff that could easily be well over $500 in one setup. Tank, MOD, Battery, and juice. I personally came off an Ego with an Evod tank, into a Vamo V5 with a PT2. As mentioned before, it's a bit more upfront, but should last me longer then the ego will. I have about $90 in that setup with batteries, charger, tank, MOD, and juice I'm using in it right now. Give or take a few bucks.

 

[DaveP]

If you have a choice between stainless steel, aluminum, or pot metal, choose SS. If a tube mod doesn't have a replaceable battery, look for one that does.

Look at something like the Sigelei Zmax Telescope when you shop for a mod. There are many other good mods, just be choosy for the money you spend.

Mods that have self contained batteries are cheap at $25, but expensive when you could get something better for around $60 and put IMR batteries in it for $12 each. You need two self contained battery mods jsut to vape while the other is charging.

 

[TFL!]

All the mod talked about here have there good and bad points. Go to this link and read about each of them. APV Model Specific Discussion

 

[ZeroOhms]

I had the same question when I first start looking around. I am still learning, but so far, what I have seen is
ProVari seems to be the high end all around mod for general usage. There are lot of followers/haters about ProVari which makes it more popular. Sort of like Porsche in your car analogy. You can pretty much use it for anything.
Other high end mods are the "custom" mods that are made by small shops and limited in availability. GG, Caravela, Super T, .. etc You can think of these as Lambo/Ferrari.

For high end atty, Kraken and Prometheus for Genesis style and Trident and Helio for RDA style. Kayfun/Russian seems to be more common high end genesis being used.

 

[SirSteve]

vsummer1 has a point, in the long run things like Egos, which are meant to be tossed when the battery no longer hold a charger get expensive over time.

As for upfront cost, high end mechs, APV's like the ProVari, Semovar, and the bottom feeder REO, all carry a higher purchase price. Of course these devices are built to last and have a very loyal customer base because of the quality built in.

 

[DaveP]

Provari is something you can hand down like a watch. In performance it's not as high tech as it once was, but it's well made, works well, and lasts a long time. If it breaks, you can send it in for repair at reasonable rates. i.e. if the board dies, it costs 20 something bucks to have a new one installed. All the parts are spared and available.

OTOH, most any foreign made mod goes into the trash when it dies. I have a Sigelei Zmax Telescope that I like very much, but if it breaks I guess I'll spend another $75 to replace it. There are no service centers for those. Two Zmaxes equal a satin finish Provari.

 

[cope]

i went with a provari after trying egos/spinners - vmax . it is spendy but well worth it IMO and the fact i live in washington state where they are made..100 miles away i have been rebuilding kanger tanks but i want a russian 91 soon i like rebuilding coils though messy its fun
im tired of spending 1-4 bucks for a coil when i can make one for 5 cents and they work better than a stock coil i have a few dripper rebuildables ..but you gotta drip it i want a nice tank rba

 

[Bunnykiller]

Politely, I take the other road.

Ce4/Ce5 style attys are the cheaper when you consider the expense in dollars and time. These items cost about $2, and last a good week - minimum. The time to fill, refill, and toss is minimum each week. Even the Kanger T3's fit into this category. These may cost a little more $5 each - and add about another 2 minutes a week to change out the premade internals and only a very few dollars more.

On the other hand, with the rebuildables, the initial expense seems high, but that is nothing compared to the amount of time consumed building your own coil assembly several times a week. Not to mention the mess, dirty hands, and sticky PV.

Just my experience to date.

I rebuild a coil once every 3 days, takes 5 minutes and costs about 17 cents per coil/wick. I use tweezers to remove the old coil ( no mess no sticky hands/fingers)... altho the new glasses to see up close cost me 5.00$

 

[DaveP]

I rebuild a coil once every 3 days, takes 5 minutes and costs about 17 cents per coil/wick. I use tweezers to remove the old coil ( no mess no sticky hands/fingers)... altho the new glasses to see up close cost me 5.00$

My Harbor Freight magnifying visor is priceless for doing close up work. Instead of trying to ring the hole, you can put it right in the middle every time. There's also those clip on jeweler lenses that fit on an eyeglass frame and flip up and down.

If your vision is perfect it will benefit from some 2x reading glasses for coil winding and head rebuilding.

 

[Bunnykiller]

You are going to have to go higher on the price for the absurd.
Shisha Sticks Sofia - The World's Most Expensive E-Cigarette | E-Cigarette Reviews and Rankings

A well made ecig for $180 pays the maker for the materials, design and time and is in no way absurd since it is a one time purchase. The above is absurd!

I figured this would happen, in fact a few weeks ago I had stated that there will be a diamond studded,platinum tube with a ruby encrusted tip would show up in Neiman-Markus store some day...

 

[Bunnykiller]

Provari is something you can hand down like a watch. In performance it's not as high tech as it once was, but it's well made, works well, and lasts a long time. If it breaks, you can send it in for repair at reasonable rates. i.e. if the board dies, it costs 20 something bucks to have a new one installed. All the parts are spared and available.

OTOH, most any foreign made mod goes into the trash when it dies. I have a Sigelei Zmax Telescope that I like very much, but if it breaks I guess I'll spend another $75 to replace it. There are no service centers for those. Two Zmaxes equal a satin finish Provari.

I had a vamo3 that got dropped and died... Made it into a mech, pulled the dead board, chopped off the screen hole added a pushbutton switch and reinserted the top threads.. now its a Vamech

 

[vsummer1]

Provari is something you can hand down like a watch. In performance it's not as high tech as it once was, but it's well made, works well, and lasts a long time. If it breaks, you can send it in for repair at reasonable rates. i.e. if the board dies, it costs 20 something bucks to have a new one installed. All the parts are spared and available.

OTOH, most any foreign made mod goes into the trash when it dies. I have a Sigelei Zmax Telescope that I like very much, but if it breaks I guess I'll spend another $75 to replace it. There are no service centers for those. Two Zmaxes equal a satin finish Provari.

There are others out there with the same warranty and service, with similar price points. My ProVari simply cannot fire my RDA's or RBA's as the chip limits them too much. They are good for those that just want a simple tank or high ohm'd coil. I prefer any DNA20 build over their chip for flavor and vapor. My REO VV will also, and has the exact same service and warranty as ProVape offers. My all time favorite, out of the many I have tried and owned, including the elusive Caravela, will still be the seemingly simple, but well designed from a single block of aircraft aluminum, REO Grand.

It is simply a matter of personal preference, based on personal experience with many different kinds of PV's. You may be just fine with a ProVari and not need something that can give you the flavor and vapor I love so much from dripping (without dripping). I just fell in love with fresh juice on a coil and can't go back, much to the dismay of my poor ProVari, Vamo, Zmax and Caravela

But any of these I mention are not initially inexpensive, nor are they cheap (well the Vamo and Zmax are, as you stated, cheap and not repairable so thus expensive*). What they are is something you buy once and use daily without worrying about dropping and damaging and that is what to me makes them worth every penny spent, thus inexpensive in the long run.

ETA: * unless you are Bunnykiller with talent to revamp them!

 

[Bunnykiller]

i went with a provari after trying egos/spinners - vmax . it is spendy but well worth it IMO and the fact i live in washington state where they are made..100 miles away i have been rebuilding kanger tanks but i want a russian 91 soon i like rebuilding coils though messy its fun
im tired of spending 1-4 bucks for a coil when i can make one for 5 cents and they work better than a stock coil i have a few dripper rebuildables ..but you gotta drip it i want a nice tank rba

I have the R91C ( russian 91 clone) and an RSST I like the RSST cuz you dont have to empty the tank to rebuild the coil...