No doubt they're passing that savings on to the customer...
I definitely sympathize -- that sounds like a completely ridiculous situation. Now I only have one question: what's poutine?
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No doubt they're passing that savings on to the customer...
I definitely sympathize -- that sounds like a completely ridiculous situation. Now I only have one question: what's poutine?
No doubt they're passing that savings on to the customer...
I definitely sympathize -- that sounds like a completely ridiculous situation. Now I only have one question: what's poutine?
Yeah right lol! We all feel the saving..... I mean, they could have charged $300.50 instead of $300.00. 50 cents is 50 cents and if I had another 50 cents, I could buy a whole other thing at a dollar store!
I googled it for you!
" Poutine is a French-Canadian food that slightly resembles American Gravy Cheese Fries, but is actually very different in many respects. Poutine is readily-available across Canada, but it only really tastes good in French Quebec or Maillardville, BC".
LOL! My curiosity got the best of me -- I googled it too! I'm guessing a Quebecois wrote that entry!
Seriosly, a $10-$15 Vivi Nova tank kit comes with 2 replacement atomizer heads and some of the nicest packaging I've seen...
Provapes 'packaging' is definately zero frills, and I do understand what you're saying. I look at it more as koshirae vs shirasaya.
Perception is strong, sight is weak, ne.
Oh, another peev. Having to find a non vulgar way of describing a juice sample as tasting like (,,#ﾟДﾟ) ____ _____ ______ ______!
Dragonbone you make me laugh
Personally, I rank them as the 'Ryan Air' pv provider, you have to pay for every single little thing, right down to the most popular LED colour, why then, they could design a Presentation Box and give the customer the choice of purchasing that too for the tiny sum of $15.00 because they really Aren't making any margin on any of their product! Ah Shame! raise your hands if you believe that!
It's like buying a Rolex and saying to the Jeweller, hey if you Keep the box, can you knock a grand off the price? Seriously?
Hehe, good one about Ryan Air, I concur, except since I am in Asia, I am thinking Air AsiaDragonbone you make me laugh
Personally, I rank them as the 'Ryan Air' pv provider, you have to pay for every single little thing, right down to the most popular LED colour, why then, they could design a Presentation Box and give the customer the choice of purchasing that too for the tiny sum of $15.00 because they really Aren't making any margin on any of their product! Ah Shame! raise your hands if you believe that!
It's like buying a Rolex and saying to the Jeweller, hey if you Keep the box, can you knock a grand off the price? Seriously?
.That's a excellent idea regarding the option of a presentation box. At least that would be something. I think an embossed tin would have been nice and very cheap for them to arrange - a dollar or less a piece.... Ah well, I will not ever be buying another Provari as far as I can see, although the pink mini is kind of cool. Anyway, so if the American customers are so estatically happy and satisfied with the king's ransom price of the tube with the pauper's (cheaper than China) packaging.. who am I to interfere? Oh and also there is NO manual either. You have to go online and find it yourself. So literally, it's just the tube in bubble wrap and a brown envelope. Or hey, maybe it was white. I can't remember now.
What gets me going and, I get into debate mode is, when I'm out front of work. AutoZone.... and a customer comes up to me, former smoker, and tells me that my e fig is bad for me or worse than analogs, chemically.
This happened today. My response was" Really? I thought that burning anything and sucking down the carcinogens was the harmful part of smoking cigarettes. Besides, I know exactly what's inside mine." (Processes to inform said person of the differences)
He then told me that if ciggy companies hadn't made the FSC city's( floor and tile glue) that be would still be a smoker today......
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This happened today. My response was" Really? I thought that burning anything and sucking down the carcinogens was the harmful part of smoking cigarettes. Besides, I know exactly what's inside mine." (Processes to inform said person of the differences)
He then told me that if ciggy companies hadn't made the FSC city's( floor and tile glue) that be would still be a smoker today......
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I think what you guys are missing in the Provari box is that it's not only the cost of the box, it's the cost of having a graphic artist do the layout for the print / design on said box, schedule and hold meetings to discuss and approve / deny each design iteration along the way, paying the web developer to redo the web site to add the box image into each page of the site where it's needed, etc. There's more to it than just a $1 box.
Don't get me wrong, I too thought it was a bit odd that my new BMW of PV's came wrapped in bubble wrap and nothing else. But then again, I spent all of ten seconds getting it OUT of the box so I could play with the Provari, not the box. And (just my opinion here) a PV that nice and expensive deserves a helluva lot more than a mere cardboard box when being transported in luggage, etc.
Don't get me wrong, I too thought it was a bit odd that my new BMW of PV's came wrapped in bubble wrap and nothing else. But then again, I spent all of ten seconds getting it OUT of the box so I could play with the Provari, not the box. And (just my opinion here) a PV that nice and expensive deserves a helluva lot more than a mere cardboard box when being transported in luggage, etc.
My new vaping pet hate is having to sleath vape in the bathroom while working at the hospital.
Mine is similar, bathroom stealth vap is not so bad...unless the guy in the next stall is, how shall i put this delicately, unaware of courtesy flushes....
Those are PAINFUL.... left mine sitting on an empty tank all night, filled it up this morning, forgetting to wet the wick or give it time, and very quickly reminded myself why I need to check first.
Mine is similar, bathroom stealth vap is not so bad...unless the guy in the next stall is, how shall i put this delicately, unaware of courtesy flushes....
If someone was um... making a deposit in the next stall I'd get out of there!
I'd happily go outside to vape, except that smoking/vaping isn't allowed anywhere on the property so I'd have to walk all the way outside (which is like 5 minutes) then go across the street and I just don't have time for that.
Pet hate: Waiting on the mail man to bring me a working PV and having my email account crash with no way to look up tracking. Been down since mid day yesterday and its still not letting me log in. Bet I have at least 200 emails by now.
Pet hate: Having to sell your entire collection of pv's to buy one that broke in a week.
Should have tried harder to keep that ProV.
Pet hate: Having to sell your entire collection of pv's to buy one that broke in a week.
Should have tried harder to keep that ProV.
My little annoyance-vaping while reading! I get absorbed in what I'm reading then I'll take a hit and have to wait for the vapor to clear before I can even see what I was reading again! Most times I lose my place too! Hahahaha!!
Analog synthesizers can output square waves just fine, and they've been able to do it basically since synthesizers were invented. There's nothing about that implying digital, but you're right about the ICs in things like the Provari, Darwin, LT, etc..
The thing is that analogue is explicitly wrong for cigarettes and more apt to describe vaporizers (first definition of the noun form).
It's a huge pet peeve of mine because it's explicitly wrong to call a cigarette an analog…people do it out of a combination of ignorance and following ignorant examples.
Small world .... I'm not a right-wing nut job, and I too firmly believe in personal responsibility.
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Longtime pet peeve: Health care professionals who are unwilling or unable to separate the findings of scientific studies of the effects of smoking from the findings of scientific studies of the effects of nicotine when delivered to the human body through vaping.
Why is this a pet peeve? Simple, really. Because the ignorance of these misguided and woefully intellectually uncurious individuals kills people.
My cardiologist is thrilled that I'm no longer smoking, and his only objection is what I already know; that nicotine slightly elevates blood pressure and heart rate. Last time my BP was measured it was 118/80 (I did vape lightly that morning), so I have determined for myself that the benefits outweigh the risks. I consider nicotine to be about as harmful as caffeine, and those are my two recreational drugs. And it seems to me that the many, many doctors who currently prescribe nicotine for a variety of beneficial purposes - memory improvement, management of ADHD and depression, and delaying the onset of Alzheimer's and Parkinson's among them - have also determined that the benefits can significantly outweigh the risks.
I just asked another health care professional if he would rather see a patient of his smoking cigarettes, or vaping. His answer was a very unsatisfactory "neither". He had managed to quit smoking, so evidently thought that everyone else should just do the same. I invited him to rejoin the real world at his leisure.
He then told me that nicotine permanently damages blood vessels because of nicotinic acid and nitric oxide. I researched both and found that nicotinic acid is niacin (Vitamin B3), which is commonly used to lower "bad" cholesterol and raise "good" cholesterol, and that nitric oxide results from the acetlyaldehyde in tobacco smoke, not from nicotine.
Ignorance kills. Vaping doesn't.
Awesome post. Glad to have you back.
I'm with you on that one. I'm not sure what's so hard about figuring out variable voltage, especially in a world where the Twist and the Spinner exist. I really wish I'd started with something better, but I think it took the gas station 901s to teach me that the stuff was enough better than those smoking everywhere POS 306+cartridge setups from a few years ago to bother with.
Part of me really wishes that the legit sellers would stop carrying cig-a-likes and just say "our stuff is better, so we don't sell the garbage."
[The Provari's packaging is] like buying a Rolex and saying to the Jeweller, hey if you Keep the box, can you knock a grand off the price? Seriously?
Bad analogy.
When I bought my Omega Seamaster (years ago), it came in a nice, expensive-looking (possibly imitation) leather presentation box with a bunch of papers, a certificate of authenticity, and a bunch of other crap. You know how it was delivered to me? The jeweler handed it to me, I put it on, and then he handed me a bag containing the box. It was like a week before I figured I should probably look at it. I did, then I promptly lost it. If I ever buy another nice watch, I'll probably just have them throw away the packaging for me and save the middle man……assuming I don't wear my other nice watch to pick it up.
I was a bit shocked when I got my first few packages that things were mostly just in bubble wrap, but I quickly made my peace with it. Perhaps I'd be disappointed if I ordered a Provari and got it not knowing how they came……but realistically, it's less crap to clutter up my house………IDK what it is, but it's hard to throw away presentation boxes……they end up taking up space in my closet for a long time……basically until I move.
I wouldn't miss it.
I resemble that remark.
Current pet hate: the feeling that the more delicious a juice is, the less time I can vape it before I want some contrast. I'm seriously considering seeing if I can get some unflavored VG because something tells me I won't get sick of it.
+1 on that, mostapha! I have two eGo Twists set up with Joye 2.4 dripping attys just for tasting and testing. I find that vaping two or three drops of pure VG is not only satisfying (has a very slightly sweet, neutral taste) but I find it clears my palate so when I go back to my flavored juices, the flavors really pop again and I rarely if ever get "zombie tongue" ... actually, I find the pure unflavored, no-nic VG to be quite a relaxing vape and it's not unusual to find that I'm still vaping it an hour or so later ...
Of course, YMMV 
Can't remember if it was mentioned since it's been a while since I read through this whole thread but...
placing an order from a certain vendor at 8:30 am, having a ship notice 2 hrs later (no complaint there) and then around noon getting an email with a 20% discount code on the items I ordered. Yeah, I finally learned to wait for the deals.
placing an order from a certain vendor at 8:30 am, having a ship notice 2 hrs later (no complaint there) and then around noon getting an email with a 20% discount code on the items I ordered. Yeah, I finally learned to wait for the deals.
A Presentation box shows a company's respect for their product and their customer base. What the customer chooses to do with it, is the customers decision.
At least you got a box with your Omega.
I like presentation, all my bags, shoes, jewellery, clothes even my cheap twist, vivi nova and cornflakes come in a box. In fact, a lot of decisions are based on how something is presented. Because if packaging wasn't important Everything would be in bubble wrap and plain brown paper.
Admittedly, I do not own a Provari. I suspect it will be long time before I do, well at least until it comes boxed and with a printed set of instructions included. Paying that much for a device that promises to be the Uber Gruber PV of all PV's, I feel it should then be presented as such.
I always check retailmenot.com, too. A lot of the vendors seem to pop up in there.
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