What children are learning

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This is actually more of an outsider view from a continental european but I've lived a couple of years in Marietta, GA in the 90s and also had quite a few weird encounters regarding smoke already back then (sorry about using the word weird as a foreigner but that's what it really felt to me). The weirdest was definitely some bloke in the neighbourhood who (allegedly) trained his dog to selectively attack smokers who would get onto his property with a burning cigarette. I had actually never seen the dog doing that but the guy proposed me to try and light one up. "Don't worry maaang, I'll hold 'em back." I politely refused.

Round here we'd call him and "inbred booger-eating ......"

(Apologies to any inbred booger-eating ...... who may be reading this, Mr. Banzhaf.)
 

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The education of our children are taught by those who are also taught in the system, believers of the system themselves, so it can't be a surprising that indoctrination of rights and wrongs are constantly being driven down thier throats. Our Judeo-Christian society itself is the perfect set-up for controling the minds of the masses. A good read for a different way of looking at things is "The Four Agreements" I'll look for the author is a bit.
 

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It is indicative of our society so it seems that the ends justify the means. My DOCTOR finally admitted that he (and most others I am sure) would tell me anything to get me to quit smoking. I could get my toe ran over in his parking lot and he would have somehow blamed it on smoking! My only response to that was, well at least he is honest. However, I think I am gonna find a new doc! That is unfortunate, because I actually like this doctor!
 

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Everyone has heard of the DARE program correct?

Well if not here is a little bit about the program. Its ran my law enforcement officers (here at least) and volunteers. Well they teach kids to stay away from drugs. Great right.

WRONG. They taught my daughter about how bad drinking and smoking are. Its good both ways.
But they lied to her. And she was VERY upset one night.

Hubby grabs a beer from the fridge. He had bought me some sort of wine cooler to try since I don't drink. Thought I might like something fruit flavored.
So he brings me one

Daughter "OMG, my parents do drugs. (cries). I can't believe you guys do drugs. They said it is really bad and no one should do it. I have to tell my teacher. I'm sorry mommy and daddy. But I have to 'turn you in'.

Me "What are you talking about drugs? Meg this is a wine cooler. And daddy has a beer. Its not drugs"

Daughter " Yes it is mom they said so. My teacher and the police man said its drugs" More crying.

Now I was ....... It took me hours to calm her down and explain what it really was. It just broke her heart. I never did open that wine cooler. And we no longer keep any of that stuff in the house. It upset her so bad and I didn't want to see it happen again. She was in elementary at the time and is now in high school. She has learned that what we do is 'ok'. As long as it is done carefully and with understanding of what could happen if it is taken overboard.

I could not believe they taught her that beer and smoking cigs were against the law. And jail time could be enforced. My youngest son just started the program today. I'll do the same with him I did with my middle daughter. ASK questions. Do not believe everything these nut jobs tell you.
 
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lol Nice one.

I don't pretend I'm not weird at all either but still... You'd have to be there to fully appreciate the situation. It was high grade weirdness, trust me. :D


That's the shame in all this...something tells me I can fully appreciate it without having been there. Everybody sing..."Welcome To America...":D
 
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I haven't had a chance to try vaping in a restaurant or anything yet but I can imagine, since there is a county wide smoking ban where I live, that some self righteous PC POS will have something to say. Usually somebody wearing a bluetooth with way to much perfume/cologne on complaining about the air that THEY breathe.

Allestaria that same thing happened to me when my son saw me smoking a cigarette. He asked me why I did drugs. Very sad.
 
I would be really tempted to bundle my child up, take them down to the police station and ask to see the DARE officer and have my child tell them in my presence.

Then I would ask for the DARE program to pay for a few sessions with a counsellor to help her recover from the trauma of being made to believe her parents were going to jail.

That is atrocious and irresponsible behavior.

Alcohol and cigarettes are illegal *for juveniles* to use. If the people running DARE are too incompetent to make the kids understand the difference between felonies and status offenses, they have no business working with the program.
 

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The only thing DARE every taught me was which drugs sounded like fun, I was like "Euphoria? Whats that feel like!"....hence my inability to remember my teen years! j/k j/k

Actually there were a few studies done that found exactly that the kids that went through the DARE program were something like 2x more liable to try drugs than those who didn't. Long ago when it wasn't in EVERY school.
 

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When me and my son had the Drug talk I went the other way about it. I told him drugs are fun, and that is why people do them. If they were not fun then people would not use them. Yet, they are so fun that you don't want to stop, and then you get to a point when they are no longer fun. It becomes normal when your on them, and they make you really sick when you don't have them. Most people don't know that part about drugs that after you use them for a while that they make you really sick, and that's why it's so hard for people that use them too stop.
 

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Actually there were a few studies done that found exactly that the kids that went through the DARE program were something like 2x more liable to try drugs than those who didn't. Long ago when it wasn't in EVERY school.

Yeah, they found that the problem was that DARE taught kids all about drugs; all about drugs that they wouldn't have even heard about until they were old enough to realize how stupid it is to use them.
 

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Yeah, they found that the problem was that DARE taught kids all about drugs; all about drugs that they wouldn't have even heard about until they were old enough to realize how stupid it is to use them.

That's exactly right. It was in some Cato policy analysis in the 90's. Now they have cross dressing videos in kindergarten, condoms and cucumbers in the 1st grade and then DARE. They finally got their priorities right. :rolleyes:
 

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After one DARE presentation, I was called into the school where they started an "intervention" on me. Turns out my youngest son had turned me in. Of course they didn't ask what drugs before they planned the intervention. I smoked cigarettes. Thank goodness this was a small private school. I think if it had been a public school the authorities would have been brought in.
 

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After one DARE presentation, I was called into the school where they started an "intervention" on me. Turns out my youngest son had turned me in. Of course they didn't ask what drugs before they planned the intervention. I smoked cigarettes. Thank goodness this was a small private school. I think if it had been a public school the authorities would have been brought in.


HAHA that happened to my brother in-law, and the cops were called. She was crying about her daddy doing dugs, and I think they felt a little stupied when they found out it was cigs.
 

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One of my kids went through DARE and came home and told me I was on drugs. I went on to inform my child that cigarettes and beer are legal for me to consume, and to go tell that to the DARE officer.
PS The DARE officer that my oldest son had was the biggest alcoholic in town. He covered it up by telling the kids he didn't drink beer. Never mentioned those shots of bourbon he pounded down at the local bar. AZZHAT!
 
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