I'd like to hear other vapers thoughts on the silica and silicosis concern. I think consumers need to know whether the silica is amorphous or crystalline. I also have more of an opinion on it but I don't want my opinion to influence anyone elses response, so I'll post what I think later in the thread.
What do you guys think of silica and silicosis?
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Here's an older established thread on the subject.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/health-safety-e-smoking/377764-dangers-silica-wicks.html
The general consensus is that the silica used in atomizers is amorphous, and since we tend to keep it wet while we inhale from it, there is minimal risk involved. As always, it's good to read and decide for yourself though.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/health-safety-e-smoking/377764-dangers-silica-wicks.html
The general consensus is that the silica used in atomizers is amorphous, and since we tend to keep it wet while we inhale from it, there is minimal risk involved. As always, it's good to read and decide for yourself though.
I was just reading through that thread, I knew it was around somewhere. I even read in there that atleast 1 person doesn't think cotton is safe to vape with, needs to be organic apparently.
Well, safe is a relative term, I haven't touched silica in months. I use regular cotton balls, and I don't even boil them.
Sheldon thinks showering in a tub with no anti-slip stickers is unsafe. Does that make it dangerous? Well I guess it does if your name is Penny.
if you really want to be safe... dont vape the juice.... lick it off of your finger. you still get the nic and flavor and no battery worries 
And one that's been addressed many, many times. What really amazes me is the legions of vapers turned health zealots and the fact that they ever picked up a tobacco cigarette in the first place.
I wouldn't snort a pile of silica wick that I've just shredded with a razor blade, but I feel comfortable enough to say that the risk of silicosis is somewhere between minimal and none. As others have stated, this has been beaten to death time and time again.
Now, I will say that I prefer cotton to silica, but that's only because of taste and performance.
You made me think of a co-worker. He's a diabetic, and manages his blood sugar through a very strict diet.
He'll stand over you telling you about the "poison" you're putting in your body while you're trying to enjoy a triple chocolate doughnut.
While he's smoking his 30th cigarette of the day.
Now, I will say that I prefer cotton to silica, but that's only because of taste and performance.
You made me think of a co-worker. He's a diabetic, and manages his blood sugar through a very strict diet.
He'll stand over you telling you about the "poison" you're putting in your body while you're trying to enjoy a triple chocolate doughnut.
While he's smoking his 30th cigarette of the day.
I don't consider silica to be of a concern at all, like stated above and in a looot of other threads, we keep the silica wet in our application, and the risk of particles small enough for your lungs to not be able to expell naturaly are minimal to non. Also, even if it was a risk, our exposure is so minimal that it would never build up to silicosis.
I haven't used silica in over 6 months now, but that is just because I desided to try cotton, and at least for me, silica doesn't even come close to the taste and wicking ability of cotton, and cotton balls are so cheap, they're almost free!
I haven't used silica in over 6 months now, but that is just because I desided to try cotton, and at least for me, silica doesn't even come close to the taste and wicking ability of cotton, and cotton balls are so cheap, they're almost free!
if you really want to be safe... dont vape the juice.... lick it off of your finger. you still get the nic and flavor and no battery worries
Has anyone tried tobacco leaf as a wicking material?</sarcasm>
You have the link to info on your question. I will simply Add what I have before for people to understand.
The Majority of Reports on Risk from Exposures is Based on Work Place Environments and Long Term / High Level Exposures.
All information MUST be taken and understood in its FULL context to be of any true value.
Ty OP for sharing your concern as many many many before u have and many many more shall in the future, please continue to share as this knowledge only sets out to make all Vapers and our rights to Vape freely more confirmed.
Now who's serving the Waffles???
Now who's serving the Waffles???
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/health-safety-e-smoking/377764-dangers-silica-wicks-7.html
The money quote is #63.
Certainly avoid fiberglass wick as the consensus is that it may cause problems, but if the above is correct then silica wick presents no dangers.
The money quote is #63.
Certainly avoid fiberglass wick as the consensus is that it may cause problems, but if the above is correct then silica wick presents no dangers.
I look at it this way. All cig-a-likes use silica in the carto's. If any crystalline silica dust could be detected in the vapor then Stanton Glantz would be screaming from rooftops about how eCigs WILL cause Silicosis. If Glantz didn't find crystalline silica dust in the vapor then no one will.
This is an absurd position. How does wanting to discuss possible effects of vaping make one a "health zealot?" If I question the effects of eating a bag full of McDonald's hamburgers, am I a health zealot who should never eat anything but organic green veggies? Discussing possible side effects does not make one a zealot.
If anything, the zealot is the one who must mock and/or dismiss anyone who has any questions about the safety of vaping. A zealot is one who has little or no tolerance for information that fits outside his world view. Like, you know, a vaper who really really wants to believe that the habit is 100% safe with no possible risk factors.
Here are some comparisons to demonstrate what he means...and I agree with his point if not the wording. An ex-smoker questioning the safety of ecigs is like:
Eating a bag of McDonald's burgers and fries every day for 20 years then switching to a lean meat, and non-fried food diet and questioning if it is better than the old diet.
Jumping the Grand Canyon on a motorcycle then question the safety of driving your Volvo to the corner store.
Partially true. In the case of the McDonald's burgers and my being a smoker for 25 years, in neither case do I want to switch to something that causes its own problems. Giving up lung cancer (possibly) for silicosis wouldn't, for instance, be a particularly helpful trade.
It's worth taking a ten minute look if that eases my mind on the subject, and it would be worth somebody putting a used wick under the microscope to find out what's going on there.
If I'm making a trade for my health, I'd like that trade to be as equitable in my direction as possible.
For the record, I wasn't trying to be dismissive, just pointing to a thread that has already covered much of the available information.
I do believe it is important to ask the questions, but I also believe it is important to keep the relevant discussions as consolidated as possible. The admins of this board can't possibly do all of the housekeeping needed so it falls to us to point to ongoing discussion threads.
I do believe it is important to ask the questions, but I also believe it is important to keep the relevant discussions as consolidated as possible. The admins of this board can't possibly do all of the housekeeping needed so it falls to us to point to ongoing discussion threads.
Between the other thread on silicosis and the fact that Glantz himself hasn't jumped on this bandwagon, I am quite content that silicosis is not an issue.
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