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[Levitas]

every order i've received of BB or GJ always tastes a bit different anyways

That's because he has customers like Wingnut telling him that mixing by the bottle is better.

Monster - why must you make this a personal attack? Do you think that Ben is awaiting instructions from Wingnut, and will not move forward until he is given the okay?

I understand that your issue is with the idea, so, no issue in making it personal.

And, to answer the other statement: Without hearing it from the Man himself, I have it under firm belief that their tobacco blends are made with a tobacco extract. If this is the case, then yes, it wouldn't be surprising to sometimes experience a minor difference in taste every now and again.



Now, let me give my opinion as to why it's an issue to make 15,000mls before orders are placed. In fact, it can be simply explained with one word, ingredients.

If Ben et al. pre-made all of their juices, in set amounts, there could be a possible inconsistency in the ability to have your own personal preferred nic-strength, or even your preferred juice.

For example: Let's say, just for fun, that they do utilize a tobacco extract for their tobacco juices. And let's say that they use the same tobacco extract for three of the flavors. Now, if they pre-made 'x' amount of juice in each nic-strength, they could easily run out of someone's favorite juice/nic-strength, and be left with zero ingredients to make more.... because they're spent in the other pre-made juices. Make sense?

This can be alleviated by making each order fresh. By doing this, they'll save on scrapped ingredients as well. They open the store, orders come in, they tally up amounts of each juice/nic-strength that needs to be made, and make 'em.

It's not like they're mixing one 18ml bottle at a time, at least, I wouldn't imagine that to be the case.

 

[MonsterTKE]

If I was Ben I would never sell you a drop of anything. There is really no call to personally insult someone because you disagree with the way they do something. Constructive criticism is one thing, calling people idiots is another.

But you aren't Ben are you? And please point out who exactly I called an idiot, other than some hypothetical per bottle juice mixer.

It surely wasn't Ben, because I would be willing to bet money that when he is looking at filling orders for 100 bottles of the same product he isn't looking at a table with 100 bottles on it and measuring out ingredients individually, because that would be idiotic.

 

[MonsterTKE]

Monster - why must you make this a personal attack? Do you think that Ben is awaiting instructions from Wingnut, and will not move forward until he is given the okay?


It's not like they're mixing one 18ml bottle at a time, at least, I wouldn't imagine that to be the case.

It wasn't an attack at all, wingnut stated that individually mixed was "fresher" and "more consistent".

"Now, if they pre-made 'x' amount of juice in each nic-strength,"

I never said anything at all, ever, never, about premixing juices beforehand, simply that if you weren't mixing them by the batch as you had to fill an order. ie. if your order sheet has 30 100ml bottles of 12mg flavorX, it would be pretty inefficient to mix those individually, rather than the whole 3 liters at a time.

To everyone whose feelings I've hurt, by maybe, possibly saying not-nice things to people on the internet, I'm truly sorry, and it will most likely happen again at some point.

 

[Rocketpunk]

If only 1 percent of 1 ingredient is "off" but they inadvertently used it anyway in a pre-mixed batch -- and they don't realize it until after a "huge gallon batch" is made... Well, there goes a WHOLE crap-ton of juice...

 

[Rocketpunk]

To everyone whose feelings I've hurt, by maybe, possibly saying not-nice things to people on the internet, I'm truly sorry, and it will most likely happen again at some point.

Well, well, glad to have met you for so little a time, MonsterTKE... Your attitude just about summed you up as a person... Exactly like a person who just made my ignore list.

And that in only 100 posts, and that in only 1 thread.

Not glad to have known ya, fella.

 

[Nicadmus]

This is more of a general statement on "fresh made" liquid, but I personally don't see it as a selling point. I understand why a liquid maker would choose this method, but as a consumer I would rather my liquids have a head start on the steeping process. Other than tasting, it's not often I use a liquid right away BECAUSE it was made fresh. I don't want my liquid collecting dust on a shelf for months on end, but a week or two wouldn't bother me at all, and in fact, I would actually prefer it.

 

[unsure]

Steeping, old atty, carto or RBA whether the same juice ran thru or not and nic level are just some reasons why juice may tastes different sometimes when you first get it home. Not necessarily their creation.

 

[evolv3]

I see the point about varying nic levels and premixed. makes sense. I think after being in business for awhile you would start to see some trends with amounts of each ordered on a daily or weekly basis and have safe idea of amounts needed. This same process is needed for keeping ingredients on hand anyway.

as long as u don't make super huge batches.

Other variables aside this shouldn't be too hard to do, like when I'm when vendors can't supply ingredients, etc.

Heck right now he wouldn't have problem moving any nic level based on amount demand. I was willing to take anything for a sample.

I would prefer some presteeped like other poster as well. I'm impatient myself.

Again just hypothetical stuff here. Not knocking.