What funny tasting cartos look like!

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SweetPuff

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Cryx, you and rift got me so curious about the bloog MF cartos that I took a couple of burnt tasting ones (about to be trashed) apart to see what was going on for myself.

I was pretty surprised to find the wicks were pitch black and the wires sooty; the polyfill wrapped around the tube was brown and saturated w/ juice (despite the fact that the juice used to fill them is almost clear 80/20 pg/vg). And, no, never ever let them run dry and filled them from both ends to be sure the wick was well saturated before vaping. The silicone was exactly as you pictured, and one carto had quite a bit more than the other.

My batts are v2cigs manual kr808d1's, some standard size and some xl/mega, 4.2 volts, supposedly regulated down to 3.7 output, so not sure why the wick was sooo charred, when the bloog batts run at 3.6v? Could be what another poster mentioned about freshly charged batts running higher initially until it winds down to the 3.7...

Out of the 10 MF cartos, at least 4 developed the same burnt taste that led me to inspect further after reading your post.

To be honest, as interested as I am in the silicone adhesive issue, right now I'm even more concerned about the charred wicks. Have you (or any other MF carto users) come across completely BLACK charred wicks?
 
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Cryx, you and rift got me so curious about my bloog MF cartos that I took a couple of burnt tasting ones (about to be trashed) apart to see what was going on for myself.

I was pretty surprised when I found the wicks were pitch black, and the stuffing wrapped around the tube was brown. And, no, never let them run dry, and the juice used to refill them is almost clear, 80/20 pg/vg. The stuffing wrapped around the tube on both were saturated with juice, but a brown color. I got to see the silicone adhesive too, one had quite a bit more than the other.

The batts I use are v2cigs kr808d1's, some standard and some xl/mega, 4.2 volts, supposedly regulated down to 3.7 output, so not sure why the wick was sooo charred, when the bloog batts run at 3.6v? Could it be what another poster mentioned about freshly charged batts running higher initially until it reg's down to the 3.7.

Have you come across BLACK charred wicks?

If your batts are being regulated then the voltage shouldn't be exceeding what its being regulated too. So if your v2cig batts are being regulating to 3.7 then the battery can push out all it wants but the atty will get 3.7.

How many times did you reuse these cartos? It sounds like you refilled a few times. With repeated use at one point or another the atty will get clogged and the taste will suffer because of it. What your seeing on your atty is more then likely what doesn't get vaporized in the juice.

You mentioned the polyfill was brown are there any visible holes in it? If not the brown you see is just the residue from the atty seeping into the polyfill.
 
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Yes, my wicks were rather nasty looking. I cleaned them off, but it didn't do any good. Please try cutting off the adhesive, or I'm willing to play with them if you mail them to me.

EDIT: Sorry, I missed that the wrappings are brown. That's probably the main problem. I can't get mine to brown even through deliberate abuse, but I never let them go dry.
 
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Hi there Leaford. I just wanted to let you know how grateful I am that you are on the case. I know you won’t ever stop making improvements to our Bloogs. I am confident you can take all that everyone has discovered and come to a good resolution. And I trust that you are working harder on this than any of us can imagine. I’m rooting for you. Thank you for all you do for us.

P.S. I hope after things have calmed down a bit for you that you will come join us for some fun in the sorry please ignore thread.
 
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If your batts are being regulated then the voltage shouldn't be exceeding what its being regulated too. So if your v2cig batts are being regulating to 3.7 then the battery can push out all it wants but the atty will get 3.7.
I'm no battery expert, that's for sure. Some ecf'ers have posted their freshly charged batts have a higher multimeter reading initially and went down to 3.7 after some useage...I have no clue if that's possible or not. But curiously, v2cigs website says their batts voltage is 3.6 - 4.2 volts? That probably makes more sense to you than me, but maybe they do run too hot for the bloogs, so could it be poss. that this is just a batt compatibility issue and not an MF carto issue?

How many times did you reuse these cartos? It sounds like you refilled a few times. With repeated use at one point or another the atty will get clogged and the taste will suffer because of it. What your seeing on your atty is more then likely what doesn't get vaporized in the juice. Yes, did refill them, probably about 3 times, is that their normal lifespan? Maybe I'm expecting too much?

You mentioned the polyfill was brown are there any visible holes in it? If not the brown you see is just the residue from the atty seeping into the polyfill.[/QUOTE] Unfortunately, they're gone in the trash, but I don't think there were any holes - however,the bottom (split portion)of the air tube was a bit black on the very edge too.

Re: burnt wick, anyone out there have issues w/ TV juices in their MFB's?

Thanks so much for the input, slowly but surely, you all are helping me figure all of this stuff out :). I feel like I just completed my first semester at ECF PVU! :)!
 
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Some of the older V2 XL batteries weren't regulated down. V2 in late last year and beginning of this year were advertising 4.2 constant. The 120mm firmware was changed in Dec but some were still getting through the supply system. I run 2 of the hotter 120mm and have to watch what carts I put on them.

Gotta get a multimeter! Got mine in Jan this year, maybe got the 4.2's!
 

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I agree w/ you 5card...it's just that they are so darned wonderful when they are working well (and not tasting funky or burnt). I think that's why there's so much hoopla going on about it, b/c people really love them and want them to be perfected to keep enjoying that heavenly vape.

I don't have all these problems with my cartos but if I did I think I would quit using them.
 

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I agree w/ you 5card...it's just that they are so darned wonderful when they are working well (and not tasting funky or burnt). I think that's why there's so much hoopla going on about it, b/c people really love them and want them to be perfected to keep enjoying that heavenly vape.

Sweetpuff, you just hit the nail square on the head.
 

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Batteries supply power to the atomizer.
The atomizer has a certain resistance (about 2.6 Ohm in the BMF cartos).
If you measure the battery voltage without a carto attached, you'll get a reading that is not correct, since there is no "load".
Since it's difficult to take measurements with a carto attached, the best way to simulate the correct "load" is to use a resistance with a similar "load" (2.6 Ohm) while taking the measurements.

PS: Please note that I use the term "load" loosely.
 

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I posted this on a similar thread in this forum regarding autopsies on the bloog cartos and wanted to get my two cents worth in here, as the conversation parallels the dialog on that thread:

"The fact that I bothered to read the entirety of this 24 page thread should be an indicator of my interest in this product. I am fairly new to vaping, but very well read. In doing all of my background research (research is probably a strong term, as reading posts is a very small part of what I would call research) on the various vp's and accessories, I came across some entries on the bloog MF. Several of the users of the MF seemed so satisfied and loyal to the product that I started looking at these bloog specific threads.

First, I want to let you know (as a completely fresh set of eyes without any ties to the bloog products) that this is a great thread. Go easy on the guys that are dissecting these things and posting their pictures and observations. They are doing a great service to both the users of these cartomizers and to bloog. Regardless of the level of scientific fact that can be ascribed to their tinkering, they are presenting some great observations that are interesting and represent (to bloog) some very important development and marketing issues that they can now digest, evaluate, and, if warranted, address.

Having started with an Njoy, I can say with certainty that we are at the very beginning of what should an exciting and remarkable journey of product innovation and improvement. I find it invaluable that people like Leaford are attaching their names and reputations to what has largely been an anonymous mass produced market of products. Having a name attached puts a reputation at stake and lends itself to honest, dedicated attempts towards continual improvements in products. My perception thus far, is that these concerns have been heard and that someone (Leaford) has a personal stake in evaluating and (again...if warranted) finding solutions and improvements.

Had the kits for these pv's been in stock, I would have already tried one to see for myself what some of their more dedicated users have been raving about. I'm sold on dripping into mods for my time at home. However, am looking for something more convenient for my wife and for myself when I am out and about. The MF is at the top of my list of such a pv to try out. Since this thread has done nothing to dampen my interest in trying them out, those of you who are worried that this thread might somehow damage the company's credibility can relax a bit. The fact that Leaford and NYC..girl are actively involved in the discussions speaks volumes as to their level of commitment to their product and their customers. WTG you two! Being accessible to the users of your product will only improve your product and your reputation. Furthermore, Chris at CS's quick response to my inquiry about a projected availability date was very impressive. You have another solid employee there that was able to make a potential customer willing to wait for availability, rather than just try some other brand.

I see good things for bloog, if they keep up this level of interest and care for customers (and potential customers). I am amazed how willing they seem to be, to hear voices like the ones on this thread and respond without giving any indication of defensiveness or other selfish agenda. These appear to be people that are genuinely invested in having the best product out there, with a fully satisfied customer base. How refreshing and encouraging this has been to someone who runs his own company and sees firsthand how difficult customers can be and how poor customer service often is in this modern world.

Now get those kits back in stock and I'll give them a try. I am optimistic that you might have just the product to get my wife to give up those last few analogs each day and make the leap to complete non-smoker status."







VAPIN' was here..... Where might he be next?

 
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