Instead of twisting them together try a parellel coil. You'll get more usable surface area that way.
What gauge of wire do you use?... and why?
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I'm not sure if this is mathematically correct, but I also came across this theory when building with Ni200. Originally I had 30 gauge Ni200 and the vapor production was insane. Switched it up when it was that time to purchase new wire to 28 gauge Ni200 and the flavor was much more intense in comparison to 30 gauge. However, versus a clapton coil of any kind, the vapor production of claptons somewhat blows everything else out of the water.
It makes sense, larger wire used in single wire coils means more coil/wick contact area so the coil has more area to distribute heat across.
If you did the same test but held wattage at the level that worked well for the 30 gauge you would find the oppisate to be true. The Clapton would perform the worst.
I suggest a challenge
You tell me what wattage to hit and I'll create a build using only 28 gauge and vape it in my Velocity.
Just for fun, I want to experience this.
I'm not saying that it cannot be done. I'm just saying that I don't like the way that thinner wire vapes. It gets hotter too quickly and I don't like it for longer puffs, especially lung hits. It's all personal preference, really.
I understand what you were saying about surface area, though. That could very well be why I like Clapton coils... nice an thick overall to handle the power how I like it and the smaller wire wrapped around it to increase overall surface area.
Honestly this kind of problem solving facinates me.
Edit: Please dont take this as derogatory, many amazing engineering solutions have been found using iterative problem solving.
A lot of people design coils so they can vape on the ramp-up. To do this you use the mass of the coil to slow the heatup period. Kinda like adding weight to a car to slow its acceleration at full throttle vs. using half throttle.
I think this logic comes from the mech community where instead of building to a higher resistance with smaller wire in parallel they just added mass because "low ohms high watts bro".
Clapton coils are the same backwards engineering. If you use thick wire you create back pressure between the coil and wick. By wrapping the core wire in thin wire you alieviate this problem because now there are lots of little channels for vapor to escape from under the thick wire.
You coild just use thin wire like the pic below but Claptons look cooler.
Two ways to get to the same place.
Fused 30/36 Clapton
Vs.
Tri-parallel 32 gauge
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Honestly this kind of problem solving facinates me.
Edit: Please dont take this as derogatory, many amazing engineering solutions have been found using iterative problem solving.
A lot of people design coils so they can vape on the ramp-up. To do this you use the mass of the coil to slow the heatup period. Kinda like adding weight to a car to slow its acceleration at full throttle vs. using half throttle.
I think this logic comes from the mech community where instead of building to a higher resistance with smaller wire in parallel they just added mass because "low ohms high watts bro".
Clapton coils are the same backwards engineering. If you use thick wire you create back pressure between the coil and wick. By wrapping the core wire in thin wire you alieviate this problem because now there are lots of little channels for vapor to escape from under the thick wire.
You coild just use thin wire like the pic below but Claptons look cooler.
Two ways to get to the same place.
Fused 30/36 Clapton
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Vs.
Tri-parallel 32 gauge
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Yeah... but I also use a lot more wire in my claptons. I absolutely love fused claptons. 2 parallel 26g wire with 30g wrapped around it, and then slightly flattened on a metal block with a hammer. The sizes of the wire might be off give-or-take because I built it back in March.
26 gauge regular dual coils for me. Typically 8 wraps on 2.5mm.
28 gauge seems to be somewhat lacking for me, and I don't care much for the heat mass of the heavier gauges.
I do get experimental on occasion, but above build is what always go back to. For me it is a great mix between flavor and cloud while retaining somewhat reasonable battery life.
28 gauge seems to be somewhat lacking for me, and I don't care much for the heat mass of the heavier gauges.
I do get experimental on occasion, but above build is what always go back to. For me it is a great mix between flavor and cloud while retaining somewhat reasonable battery life.
Fancy coils are fun to play with, but they're not necessary for a good vape.
That said, I think I'll dry burn some coils this morning for a better vape. This 2.5 ohm 32ga coil is starting to taste a bit raggy.
That said, I think I'll dry burn some coils this morning for a better vape. This 2.5 ohm 32ga coil is starting to taste a bit raggy.
Smaller diameter wire heats/cools faster as there is less mass. An added bonus if your TC vaping is that coils with higher resistance can be made with thinner wire.
Less power equates to less battery drain and longer charge life and thus more vaping between charge cycles.
Ti, 24-32awg
Ni, 28-28awg
SS430, 28awg
I don't bother with any fancy twisted or 'clapton' stuff.
Less power equates to less battery drain and longer charge life and thus more vaping between charge cycles.
Ti, 24-32awg
Ni, 28-28awg
SS430, 28awg
I don't bother with any fancy twisted or 'clapton' stuff.
For along time I was hung up on 26. But as Iv grown and learned Iv stared gravitating to using more 24 and 22. The other day I wound a 4mm 22 gauge coil with 6 wraps in a Mephisto and its the cats meow. It fires up almost as fast as you hit the button and does`nt get to hot even with a 4-5 second pull. My favorite RDA`s right now have 22 g 6 wrap coils of varying diameters, whatever fts the best. Little boy, Vulcan, MX, Aeo V2.
I`m a vapor production and bubbling action junky, thats why I like these .2-ish ohm coils. I just don`t really like a vape with no action, its gotta have action, blap, snap, blap.
I`m a vapor production and bubbling action junky, thats why I like these .2-ish ohm coils. I just don`t really like a vape with no action, its gotta have action, blap, snap, blap.
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26 and 24 gauge depending what I'm building on. I just got a goblin mini and I like to use .5 ohms at 3mm diameter but building that on the gobbling mini is hard unless I go vertical which I haven't tried. used 24 gauge and I had a hard time just building it so I stuck with 26 and used a smaller diameter. other then that it's w.e. I simply like my coils sub ohm and heat up fast. other then that to me it doesn't matter so much such as surface area wise. I always run duel coils that's why and micro coils if anything I would probably care for more surface area if I was cloud chasing and eventually I will but atm I'm still new. I eventually want to experiment with twisted wire, Nicole wire, sleeper coils, all these crazy coils I see but seem way too experienced for me to get into.
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