What happened to Provape?

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coolerat

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Couple of problems with this post:

You are completely discounting word of mouth. Ive referred dozens upon dozens of people to the Provape website in my 5+ years of vaping. Other Provari owners routinely do the same.

You also fail to realize that the more moving parts something has the more apt it is to break. That one button works beautifully and almost any Provari owner out there will tell you its a non-issue. Its one of those things where you actually have to use it for a few days to understand the beauty of it.

Do you know when I check my battery? When its on the charger. Ive been vaping with the same setup for long enough to know how long my battery will last.

As far as offering box mods go, thats against Provapes design philosophy. They specialize in one type of mod and they do it extremely well. Arguably better than anyone else out there.

And I think youre wrong about internet sales appealing only to hobbiest. I think they appeal to smart, money savvy consumers who do their research and dont mind waiting a few days for an exceptional product.

The amateurs and hobbiest are the ones who are visiting the vape shops.Theyre the ones who are being sold crappy mods and juices, because theyre the so-called latest and greatest, all while paying three or four times what that product is worth.

Your post above even alludes to this by saying " No smoker ever says I want to quit, better check the internet."

The aforementioned smokers would be, by definition, complete amateurs in the world of vaping.

And they arent really Provapes target demographic to start with.

Provape

Pro

Professional

Vape

hmmm, Professional Vapers.

Imagine that

Just can't see "Professional Vapers" and not think of Victor.

I bought a Provari for one of two reasons. I'd like it and it would be my new mod. Thats not gonna happen because I don't like the tube and I hate the one button.

The fail safe plan was I'd hate it enough that it would lead me to quit vaping and I'd be clean. Thats the way its gonna go I think but I'm not ready to quit just yet.

Either way 100% worth what I paid for it.
 

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Just an observation: A year ago I could see (here, on ECF) recommendation to buy Provari quite often. Now - almost never.
That's true. Don't you think that this is partly because there is not even time for recommendations - next day three new mods appear. There is a certain - how should I say, breathlessness? confusion? a kind of frenzy to buy the latest (cheap) one without loosing much time by asking for recommendations? One does not have one iStick but a whole farm.

But again - ECF is not everything. I do hope so, at least.
 

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Provape does okay and aren't going anywhere.
They make a solid product and have a great track record for customer service.

But one has to wonder what will happen to them, with WA's proposed very draconian regulations about vape products. Mt Baker is moving to AZ!

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    The most important thing, Provape is still in business. Will I purchase another Provari for myself ? No. If my wife says, I just gotta have a pink P3. I will buy it for her. So many options out there for all. Back to cloud chasing on my Super T 26650. :)

    How's the warranty on Super T's these days? Wondering if they cut that off too, or just production.
     

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    Which one???
    My V1 was made in 2011(and yes, it's still a V1)
    Bought a mini when they first came out.
    Also bought a ZenKote when they went on sale.

    Still have all three, and all three look & work perfectly.

    Nice!

    We have 3 as well.

    The one my wife is using is 3 and half years old. Still works like new. So do the other two. The only thing weve had to do is replace a couple of springs (were heavy vapers)
     

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    Why would ProVape lower their quality standards by using Evolv chips...?

    Because Evolv's tech is way ahead of Provapes in the circuit board design category. Indeed, it's ahead of anyone else, really.

    Provape just doesn't have a good handle on where the market is -- people want more than 20 watts in power mode. I am sure Provape realizes this, but perhaps they are content with the ever shrinking tootle puffer market share. At the very least, they could implement TC in their mods (something Evolv invented, btw).
     
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    Because Evolv's tech is way ahead of Provapes in the circuit board design category. Indeed, it's ahead of anyone else, really.

    Provape just doesn't have a good handle on where the market is -- people want more than 20 watts in power mode. I am sure Provape realizes this, but perhaps they are content with the ever shrinking tootle puffer market share. At the very least, they could implement TC in their mods (something Evolv invented, btw).

    Really? Screen issues of no end, TC which wasn't ready for release? More power certainly doesn't equal high tech. Even the Chinese 'clone' Evolv chips are better than Evolv chips...
     

    tj99959

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    Because Evolv's tech is way ahead of Provapes in the circuit board design category. Indeed, it's ahead of anyone else, really.

    Provape just doesn't have a good handle on where the market is -- people want more than 20 watts in power mode. I am sure Provape realizes this, but perhaps they are content with the ever shrinking tootle puffer market share. At the very least, they could implement TC in their mods (something Evolv invented, btw).

    Actually they have a good handle on THEIR market, even if it isn't the market you WISH they would cater to.

    Provape does have one problem, the Provaris I have will out live me. So why would I want to buy another one?
     

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    Because Evolv's tech is way ahead of Provapes in the circuit board design category. Indeed, it's ahead of anyone else, really.

    Provape just doesn't have a good handle on where the market is -- people want more than 20 watts in power mode. I am sure Provape realizes this, but perhaps they are content with the ever shrinking tootle puffer market share. At the very least, they could implement TC in their mods (something Evolv invented, btw).

    SOME people want more than 20 watts of power.

    Some of us think its stupid to burn through 100ml of juice in a week and to have an 18650 that only lasts 3 hours.

    Im fine with just 8 watts....and Im pretty sure Im not alone in this.

    Cloud chasing is NOT the future of vaping.

    Its an offshoot......like hotrodding is to driving.

    And its popular right now because the vape shops are pushing it.....because it means more juice, battery, mod and coil sales for them.

    They hate products like the Provari because they last so long ( 1 mod sale over 5 years versus 5 mod sales over the same time period) and because theres very little profit to be made in reselling them.

    Vape shops dont sell a lot of carto tanks either.

    Why?

    Because they work.
     
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    stevegmu

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    They're out of business due to China banging out mechs with better quality. Provape better start thinking fast, or they'll be in the same boat.

    They don't even make any tube mods in China, do they? Dani is ProVape's only real competition, and they aren't readily available. The Semovar seems to be on hold for now...
     

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    The answer to why the OP's vape shop has the P3 on sale and will not be selling Provaris ... the markup on, an already expensive Provari, is not very high.

    The shop likely caters to the latest and greatest sub ohm crowd and cannot sell high priced Provaris ... they likely don't sell authentic SvoёMesto products either.
     

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    The answer to why the OP's vape shop has the P3 on sale and will not be selling Provaris ... the markup on, an already expensive Provari, is not very high.

    The shop likely caters to the latest and greatest sub ohm crowd and cannot sell high priced Provaris ... they likely don't sell authentic SvoёMesto products either.

    EXACTLY!

    I worked at a local vape shop and witnessed a manager selling a product to a customer who told him:

    I need something tough and reliable and Im on the road for 12 hours a day

    Do you know what he sold him?

    A Vamo....for 60 bucks

    Why did he sell him that instead of an MVP with the passthru feature?

    There was a higher profit margin on the Vamo.
     
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