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What is going on with all these deaths?

Discussion in 'Health, Safety and Vaping' started by roxics, Sep 10, 2019.

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  1. roxics

    roxics Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 25, 2009
    Detroit MI
    Suddenly there is all this media backlash against vaping and I have friends and family urging me to quit. My teenage son is really concerned because of the people dying from vaping. I've been vaping for ten years. I've been making my own liquid for eight of those years.

    Where is all of this coming from? Are all these deaths from THC vapers?

    I've been out of the loop for a while because I found my vape and haven't really been much of an enthusiast since. I just go about my day and do my vape thing. Unaware of all the recent developments. So all of this just come out of the blue for me.
     
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  2. Izan

    Izan Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jul 1, 2012
    Mallorca, Spain
  3. markfm

    markfm Aussie Pup Wrangler Verified Member ECF Veteran

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  4. Rossum

    Rossum Surly Curmudgeon Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Dec 14, 2013
    Northbound :(
    It appears to be THC vapes "cut" with something that they shouldn't have been cut with.
     
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  5. moseng

    moseng Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 15, 2010
    Didn't I just read about a 50 yr old lady dying due to "vaping". That makes six in as many weeks or less! Is it possible there's some bad juice or equipment going around?
     
  6. markfm

    markfm Aussie Pup Wrangler Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Not nicotine eliquid, and nothing to do with hardware, based on current information.

    The black market drug cart suppliers started using something as a cutting/thickening compound, vitamin e acetate, which should not be used in anything people vape.
     
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  7. zoiDman

    zoiDman My -0^10 = Nothing at All* ECF Veteran

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    Apr 16, 2010
    So-Cal
    The Commonality that seems to becoming Apparent in those who have Died or gotten Sick is the use of a Electronic Device to "Vape" THC. Mostly THC that was purchased off the Street.

    So the Spotlight is now on what people have used to "Cut" THC Oils with.

    If you are a DIY-er of Nicotine e-Liquids, I believe that you have Little to Nothing to worry about.

    I know these are Big Threads, but there is also an Evolving Record of much that has happened.

    Fear-mongering in Milwaukee - 8 hospitalized

    New York State Subpoenas Vit. E Acetate Labs
     
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  8. GOMuniEsq

    GOMuniEsq Self-Proclaimed Member ECF Veteran

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    Aug 25, 2012
    Alberta, Canada
    Yes. The US Government and Media have done a great disservice to the public by lumping together nicotine vaping and black market e.weed vaping. The e.weed vapers learned the hard way that food-safe products do not necessarily remain so when heated and inhaled. Let your friends and family members know that nicotine products from licensed sources are not affected, and use this as an opportunity to reinforce to your son the lesson that taking News reports at face value is naive.
     
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  9. Heatingman

    Heatingman Full Member

    Sep 18, 2016
    Seems there gonna ban all flavored e-liquid.

    What can we do about this? Ive been vaping for several years. I cant stand tobacco flavors.

    Do I need to start making my own stuff?

    And how many small businesses are going to fold because of this? Id bet thousands.


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  10. zoiDman

    zoiDman My -0^10 = Nothing at All* ECF Veteran

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    Apr 16, 2010
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    All of them.

    As to Making your own e-Liquids? Today might be a Good Day to Start.
     
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  11. roxics

    roxics Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 25, 2009
    Detroit MI
    Thanks everyone. I figured something like that was going on. After all, I've felt fine and people have been vaping for years now and most seem fine. So the media is just doing what it always does. Being sensationalist and selling fear and outrage.
     
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  12. markfm

    markfm Aussie Pup Wrangler Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    You've got it right. Vaping as a whole is being demonized, while the current info sounds like it is from bad things added to black market THC cartridges.
     
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  13. mikepetro

    mikepetro Vape Geek Verified Member ECF Veteran

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