What is missing?

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BigCap

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So I am wondering how often everyone uses smooth, sweetener, Sweet & tart, sour etc.. ?

I rarely see them in any recipes that I find. I have a few recipes that had been steeping over a week, and all are missing something, or are a little "rough around the edges" if you know what I mean... it just needs that extra "something" to be completed.

Here is an example:
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Andes mint chocolate:

CAP - Double Chocolate 3%
TFA - Creme De Menthe 6%
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Flavor is there, nice and cool on the throat ..it's just missing something, and I can't quite figure it out.

I have the following that I am thinking maybe I should add 1 of these:

TFA Vanilla bean ice cream
TFA Bavarian Cream
TFA Vanilla custard
TFA Marshmallow
TFA Sweetener
TFA Smooth
TFA EM

Hopefully someone can help me out here

Also looking for percentages for these:

TFA Sweetener
TFA Smooth
TFA EM
TFA Sweet & Tart
TFA Sour

Thanks guys & gals
 

Muero

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I used to think that Smooth and VW etc were what was missing from my mixes. So naturally I bought them, and now I never use them. Presently, I believe that missing piece is usually a hint of another flavor. So I've been adding vanilla or creams to kind of round things out. For that one specifically I'd do the vanilla bean ice cream or marshmallow or both. Side note: due to creams having acetoin or AP pr both, I'm trying to lean more on vanilla for sweetness and roundness.
 
Funny you ask. Used to use that malic acid one, the sour or tart, think it's just malic acid crystals in PG. Used it in all my fruit mixes. Like a drop or two . Been leaving it out just for the hellofit recently and don't seem to taste much difference. TFA makes a good Sweet Tart Candy flavor that is spot on, and I now find myself using that to add tart/sour to a mix.

Warning: adding malic acid to juice will almost certainly turn it into a plastic tank cracker.

As for sweet, yeah I use a drop or two per 5 mls here or there. Too much is very artificial and disgusting to me. Also some flavorings seem sweet on their own.

A drop of vanilla is sometimes a good smoother for me. Have not used the stuff called "smooth" however. Cheers. :vapor:
 

BigCap

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I have tested a few different flavors just dripping, and I find that tfa whipped cream, and a hint of tfa koolada seem to balance it out the best, but still, it's not going to "WOW" ya. I'm going to continue trying this with different chocolates, I think a dark chocolate would be better, or maybe a combo of dark, double etc..I believe I have everything else down as far as the whipped cream, cdm, and koolada (may even need a hint of menthol).

Any suggestions on the best chocolates out there?

I have tried the following:

choc glazed donut (cap)
choc fudge brownie (cap)
double choc (cap)
double choc clear (tfa)
white choc (tfa)

But most give a syrupy taste, even at a very low % ...I am determined to make this one work, and share a quality recipe with you kind folks :)
 

BigCap

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I used to think that Smooth and VW etc were what was missing from my mixes. So naturally I bought them, and now I never use them. Presently, I believe that missing piece is usually a hint of another flavor. So I've been adding vanilla or creams to kind of round things out. For that one specifically I'd do the vanilla bean ice cream or marshmallow or both. Side note: due to creams having acetoin or AP pr both, I'm trying to lean more on vanilla for sweetness and roundness.

Going to try VB IC, haven't given that a whirl yet. Thanks, and I too believe that the missing piece is a hint of another flavor as well. Will report back to you guys if I can ever get this recipe down.
 
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