What is the easiest ecig to use? KR8?

[Mr.Self_Destruct]

Hi, I'm trying to help a friend get a good e-cig that will work for him. He is currently using a blu. We were on a boat the other day and he had his blu and I had my ego. His blu kept turning on from the wind and noises. His battery died and didn't want to light up a cig on the boat. I put his atty on my spare ego battery and told him to use it and not to worry. There was no way he could kill my ego batt. He was so impressed with the performance, he couldn't believe how much better it was just switching batteries.

So he then said to me I have to help him find a better e cig. I said I think I know of one that would be good for you. I was thinking the Kr808. I think it would be perfect for him. 2 pieces and doesn't have to refill. He does not want to get involved filling carts or cartos.

I do not know much about the KR8. I do know many people use them and like them. So I'm looking for a little help with finding a good start up kit for him. I also don't know what are good cartos to get. I need cartos that are pre-filled with liquid that's good. (if there is such a thing)

I would love to hear some thoughts.

Thanks in advance!

 

[lasttango]

the eGo ;-)
they have 510 cartomizers too...

V4L is pretty easy to use also... easy to order etc

 

[Blaze]

If he's not ready to take the mod plunge, then definitely the eGo w/ 510 cartos FTW

 

[Kent C]

If he was impressed with the performance of the eGo - go no further - advise getting an eGo and the new mega carto is great, imo.

 

[Mr.Self_Destruct]

I have a 510 and an ego. He does not want an ego!!! I think he would be better off with cartos. 510 cartos are very very limited with flavor and strength. You want 24mg marlblo then yeah all day. That's why i was thinking the KR8. They only use cartos and i know they offer a lot of flavors and strengths. I guess I'm just looking for some advice on the KR8 being that I do not own one.

 

[Mr.Self_Destruct]

If he was impressed with the performance of the eGo - go no further - advise getting an eGo and the new mega carto is great, imo.

I Fully agree with you. However he wants his ecig to look like a cig and to be small. Battery life is not an issue for him. He likes to use it for certain situations. He was having a problem with vapor production and the inconsistencies that riddle the blu. He's just looking for a small solid performer.

 

[Kent C]

I Fully agree with you. However he wants his Ecig to look like a cig and to be small. Battery life is not an issue for him. He likes to use it for certain situations. He was having a problem with vapor production and the inconsistencies that riddle the blu. He's just looking for a small solid performer.

510 with a mega batt perhaps.

 

[DonDaBoomVape]

There's no one right answer to this.

A variation on the above alternatives (Kr8 vs. eGO) is CigEasy's new Elegant, kind of an eGO for Kr8 cartomizers (and 901 atomizers). Although it would be more accurate to say: a Riva for... Like the Riva, it is 750 mAh.

I've not used the eGO (or Riva) but my guess is that the Elegant is similar in quality/capability. And for simplicity, there is a much larger selection of prefilled Kr8 cartomizers. You don't even have to use e-liquid if you don't want to (although it certainly is less expensive if you do refill cartos).

I pointed out some of the pros and cons of the two basic models, Joye 510 and Kr8, in my comparative review. If you go with the higher capacity batteries of the eGO/Riva or Elegant, just ignore the comments about batteries. [An important caveat: the eGO/Riva and Elegant batteries are only 3.4V; the regular Kr8 battery is true 3.7V (starting at 4.2V fully charged).]

All that having been said, if I were starting out today, I think I might get the Riva: it is less expensive than the eGO, has slightly higher mAh, and (to the best of my knowledge) is fully compatible with the eGO (e.g., if you ever want to use the new mega cartomizers Kent mentioned, mega atomizers & cartridges, LR atomizers, or 900 mAh mega batteries).

I'm not in love with the taste of Kr8 cartomizers. They're not "bad" and the new, improved cartos (e.g., V4L's Premium and Wow, CigEasy's Gold Label, or VaporNine's Turbo) are a significant improvement over the old, but, more often than not, I prefer using a regular atomizer and dripping.

 

[Mr.Self_Destruct]

I realize that this is a tough one to answer. Basically it comes down to this. If you want to buy an E cig and just use prefilled carts or cartos. What do you get?

 

[v1John]

I was just posting about K808, and egos/Hello016s, please also refer to this thread, because what I posted there may also help here about quality and amount of vapor production:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/103693-noob-advice.html#post1558061

 

[Kent C]

I realize that this is a tough one to answer. Basically it comes down to this. If you want to buy an E cig and just use prefilled carts or cartos. What do you get?

I think the "However he wants his Ecig to look like a cig and to be small." is operative here - Ok - no eGos or clones. He has a blu which will fit the 510 as you clearly demonstrated. The 510 now has cartomizers. No reason to get something where he can't use some of his blu stuff.

 

[Mr.Self_Destruct]

I think the "However he wants his Ecig to look like a cig and to be small." is operative here - Ok - no eGos or clones. He has a blu which will fit the 510 as you clearly demonstrated. The 510 now has cartomizers. No reason to get something where he can't use some of his blu stuff.

Yes, I agree. But I feel the blu attys and carts are too inconsistent. I guess i should give him a couple of 510 batts and see if that will do it. But I really believe he needs a better atty/cart setup or carto. The hard part is that he won't budge on the juice refill thing. That's why I was thinking a KR8.

I am Very happy to receive advice from you and DonDaBoomVape. I always read everything i see you guys post.

 

[BradSmith]

Personally I would go for a 510 and use cartomizers rather than a KR8. In fact before they came out with the 510 cartomizers, I told one of my friends to go with a KR8 and she just never could get the vapor out of it and the hits were just too dry for her. She now has a 510 and uses cartomizers and loves it. To each their own, I know a lot of people on this site like the KR8. They just didn't work for me or my friend and now I don't recomend them for anyone.

 

[Kent C]

Yes, I agree. But I feel the blu attys and carts are too inconsistent. I guess i should give him a couple of 510 batts and see if that will do it. But I really believe he needs a better atty/cart setup or carto. The hard part is that he won't budge on the juice refill thing. That's why I was thinking a KR8.

And that's why I mentioned the 510 cartomizers ;-) The compatibility with the blu was just another option in there.

 

[Mr.Self_Destruct]

And that's why I mentioned the 510 cartomizers ;-) The compatibility with the blu was just another option in there.

Do you happen to know where I can find prefilled 510 cartos in low nic strength?

 

[Automaton]

Well, I love my Kr808. I do refill it, but I was actually really surprised at how long the pre-filled cartos lasted. They lasted the better part of 7-8 hours for me, and after being refilled I'm not getting quite as much. 4-6 hours.

This could be my refilling technique, my DIY liquid, or that I'm vaping a little more now, but, point is, the pre-filled cartos that came with mine lasted for AGES.

I thought the flavor was actually ok. It didn't make me want to proclaim it from the mountain tops, but I didn't get sick of it.

I got it from Electro Nic Stix - $35, quick shipping, very happy with it.

And I just bought more cartos from Good Prophets (the cartos are cheaper there, but the kit is more expensive - weird?). $6 for 5 pre-filled cartos.

The batteries are giving me a good 5-6 hours, so really, 2 charged batts will go all day.

 

[Kent C]

Do you happen to know where I can find prefilled 510 cartos in low nic strength?

Well no, but he'll spend a fortune on KR8 cartoz if he isn't going to refill them. Iow, if he's going to refill them anyway then you'll need ejuice so the 510 is still the best choice for reasons mentioned. I know some would like to equate the KR8 with the 510. I don't.

But you seem to be heading in that direction from your original question with the "KR8" there to begin with, so .... send him down that path.

 

[Mr.Self_Destruct]

Well no, but he'll spend a fortune on KR8 cartoz if he isn't going to refill them. Iow, if he's going to refill them anyway then you'll need ejuice so the 510 is still the best choice for reasons mentioned. I know some would like to equate the KR8 with the 510. I don't.

But you seem to be heading in that direction from your original question with the "KR8" there to begin with, so .... send him down that path.

Well honestly he could care less about cost. He makes a very nice living. But if you say the KR8 doesn't perform that well. Then I would say that changes things. The most difficult part of this, Is that he refuses to refill. So that limits things. I don't know... Maybe i can convince him otherwise.

If he would listen to me, he'd be puffing on an ego with a lr carto. But he's making this difficult for me.

 

[Kent C]

Well honestly he could care less about cost. He makes a very nice living. But if you say the KR8 doesn't perform that well. Then I would say that changes things. The most difficult part of this, Is that he refuses to refill. So that limits things. I don't know... Maybe i can convince him otherwise.

If he would listen to me, he'd be puffing on an ego with a lr carto. But he's making this difficult for me.

The problems is with the KR8 prefilled cartoz. Some hardly have any vapor. Some last a half hour, some 3 hours. Most have an underflavor that is off putting, and the fillers can burn easily, esp. with the premium low resistance cartoz. But if the guy has money to burn (actually, the people I know that have that kind of money would be refilling ;-) then set him up with the best KR8 kit and get him every flavor and style available and he may find a few that he'll like.

 

[Mr.Self_Destruct]

Thank you for your responses Kent C! I do really appreciate your input. I probably should have titled the thread differently. I'm a terrible communicator, particularly through writing.

I have to say I'm back at square one. I'm now thinking of a re-branded 510 just so things can be easy for him. I'm starting to think maybe he needs a Volcano Magma or a Revolver Gemini. (makes me Cringe) They both seem to sell pre-filled carts.