What is the point of sub ohming?

[Mr. P]

I am not criticizing here but can someone please explain? I read a post where the person built a coil at .11 ohms and wants advice on what battery he could use with it. Really?

Why is it when something comes out you always get those idiots who don't know what they are doing and they try to rebuild or modify it and push the limits? What can a .11 coil give you that a 1.2 or 1.5 can't?

I mean is it a bragging thing? Oh, I built a sub ohm coil at .001 ohms, I have no face left but I did it.

The vaping business is not that old yet and it is more and more in the public eye these days. That is all we need, more regulations and more attention drawn to it because people are blowing off body parts and injuring themselves.

So back to my original question, what is the point of sub ohming?

I just don't get it.

 

[happydave]

something like a .11 ohm coil is probably multiple coils step in a parallel circuit.

your question is, "what is the point of sub ohming?"

the answer is... MORE vapor, flavor and throat hit.

 

[thebanik]

I am not criticizing here but can someone please explain? I read a post where the person built a coil at .11 ohms and wants advice on what battery he could use with it. Really?

Why is it when something comes out you always get those idiots who don't know what they are doing and they try to rebuild or modify it and push the limits? What can a .11 coil give you that a 1.2 or 1.5 can't?

I mean is it a bragging thing? Oh, I built a sub ohm coil at .001 ohms, I have no face left but I did it.

The vaping business is not that old yet and it is more and more in the public eye these days. That is all we need, more regulations and more attention drawn to it because people are blowing off body parts and injuring themselves.

So back to my original question, what is the point of sub ohming?

I just don't get it.

What exactly is your question? What is the point of sub ohming? or what is the point of sub ohming by people who do not understand the ohms law and battery safety & chemistry? Or are you just ranting?

happydave has given a simple but precise reply for the point of sub-ohming. Though not sure if it really gives more flavor, it definitely gives more vapor and throat hit.

 

[KenD]

Well, no need to go to extremes just because one's sub ohming. I have sub ohm coils in all of my RBAs, but moderate sub ohm resistance, usually around 0.8. That's not particularly dangerous when using the right batteries. More vapour (not for the clouds but the sensation of the inhale) and more throat hit (of secondary importance). There's a considerable difference between vaping at 0.8 and 1.5 ohms (using unregulated devices). People have different preferences, deal with it.

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[Mr. P]

Well, no need to go to extremes just because one's sub ohming. I have sub ohm coils in all of my RBAs, but moderate sub ohm resistance, usually around 0.8. That's not particularly dangerous when using the right batteries. More vapour (not for the clouds but the sensation of the inhale) and more throat hit (of secondary importance). There's a considerable difference between vaping at 0.8 and 1.5 ohms (using unregulated devices). People have different preferences, deal with it.

Now see, why was that called for "deal with it". I asked a simple question and somebody always has to be a jerk.

All i wanted to know was why people push the limits of safety especially those that don't know what they are doing. What are the benefits of sub ohming, I guess there are a few idiots in every forum.

 

[pfaber11]

wont this type of vaping produce huge amounts of formaldahyde. not sure if thats how you spell it but i think you all know what i am talking about.

 

[rurwin]

wont this type of vaping produce huge amounts of formaldahyde. not sure if thats how you spell it but i think you all know what i am talking about.

Done properly, no.
It produces all the vapor, flavour and throat-hit because it is vapourising a large quantity of liquid, not because it is running hotter. It isn't. It runs at pretty much the same temperature as any other atomiser. It is just very efficiently wicked and ventilated.

Sub-ohm coils are still the cost-effective way to get up to over 30 watts. A 0.11 ohm coil will consume up to 160 watts and draw up to 38 amps. There is no regulated mod that can match those numbers.

 

[WattWick]

I vape at around 0.8 ohms. Not for any particular reason other than that's where I found my sweet spot with my meshed gennies. Instant vapor production, just the right amount of vapor and excellent flavor. With emphasis on instant vapor production. Press that button, and it's on. More cig like draw, rather than sucking on some stock clearo while waiting for it to heat up.

 

[Mr. P]

Done properly, no.
It produces all the vapor, flavour and throat-hit because it is vapourising a large quantity of liquid, not because it is running hotter. It isn't. It runs at pretty much the same temperature as any other atomiser. It is just very efficiently wicked and ventilated.

Sub-ohm coils are still the cost-effective way to get up to over 30 watts. A 0.11 ohm coil will consume up to 160 watts and draw up to 38 amps. There is no regulated mod that can match those numbers.

Thanks for the input but when does risk outweight the benefits? I mean flavor isn't infinite and why would someone then try to vape at .11?

 

[Asbestos4004]

Is it already time for another "why sub ohm" thread? If you're really just curious, why not just use the search feature ECF has so kindly provided and read the 7000 other threads asking the same question. What I really want to know is if a provari is worth the money....now, THERE'S an original topic.

 

[KenD]

Now see, why was that called for "deal with it". I asked a simple question and somebody always has to be a jerk.

All i wanted to know was why people push the limits of safety especially those that don't know what they are doing. What are the benefits of sub ohming, I guess there are a few idiots in every forum.

I haven't slept well in a couple of weeks and I'm in a terrible mood. Sorry for the snotty response. I fully agree with the critique of people who don't know what they're doing aiming at insanely low resistances, and no batteries can handle 0.11 ohms. However, you did ask about sub ohms in general, and that includes everything from 0.99 and down (1.0 is not a magical barrier), and there have been several threads critical of any kind of sub ohming (often with accusations of sub ohmers being juvenile etc). Guess I got a little defensive. Again, I apologize.

EDIT: and if the idiot comment was directed towards me ("jerk" was somewhat justified), you could apologize for that

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[KenD]

Double post...

 

[Ryedan]

I am not criticizing here but can someone please explain?

Increased flavor, vapor and TH.

I read a post where the person built a coil at .11 ohms and wants advice on what battery he could use with it. Really?

Why is it when something comes out you always get those idiots who don't know what they are doing and they try to rebuild or modify it and push the limits? What can a .11 coil give you that a 1.2 or 1.5 can't?

I mean is it a bragging thing? Oh, I built a sub ohm coil at .001 ohms, I have no face left but I did it.

Hmm, now your criticizing. From a position of ignorance.

People sometimes push limits. That can bring a lot progress. When they do it without knowing how to do it safely it can be dangerous.

If that person doesn't know what battery he should use with that build, safety in this case is not looking good . When I read those types of posts I do my best to help educate the person. They are not idiots. They just don't know yet that they need to learn more. In the vast majority of cases they listen and learn when help is offered.

If I know something you don't, does that mean you're an idiot?

The vaping business is not that old yet and it is more and more in the public eye these days. That is all we need, more regulations and more attention drawn to it because people are blowing off body parts and injuring themselves.

I'm not aware of a single case of someone having a battery explode while sub-ohming. If you know of one, please share.

So back to my original question, what is the point of sub ohming?

I just don't get it.

See my first comment.

 

[Tinkiegrrl]

.11 ohms is indeed a little ridiculous, but that doesn't mean every sub - ohmer out there is as uninformed on safety. If they came here to post, at least others here will be able to get them up to speed before they destroy their batteries and mods. As for exploding batteries, I believe that they will vent before exploding. Not ideal, safe, or recommended, but most of the stories you hear about exploding batteries have been debunked.

 

[BostonVape]

Well, no need to go to extremes just because one's sub ohming. I have sub ohm coils in all of my RBAs, but moderate sub ohm resistance, usually around 0.8. That's not particularly dangerous when using the right batteries. More vapour (not for the clouds but the sensation of the inhale) and more throat hit (of secondary importance). There's a considerable difference between vaping at 0.8 and 1.5 ohms (using unregulated devices). People have different preferences, deal with it.

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We can certainly deal with you being a smug jackass.

 

[Southern Tina]

Is it already time for another "why sub ohm" thread? If you're really just curious, why not just use the search feature ECF has so kindly provided and read the 7000 other threads asking the same question. What I really want to know is if a provari is worth the money....now, THERE'S an original topic.

Yuppers. There are tons of posts about it. Sometimes the search function on here doesn't work so well...but you can find it just by googling it.

 

[Southern Tina]

Oh and I do not sub ohm, and really don't have a desire to. But, to each their own.

 

[Kr3wsk8er]

 

[WattWick]

Is it already time for another "why sub ohm" thread? If you're really just curious, why not just use the search feature ECF has so kindly provided and read the 7000 other threads asking the same question. What I really want to know is if a provari is worth the money....now, THERE'S an original topic.

Hehe with a couple decent FAQs, ECF would slowly die out.

... I hear those Provaris don't have VW? That's like... a must... right?

 

[ScottChensoda]

Mr. P, you preface your OP with "I am not criticizing here....." yet in the very next sentence you refer to certain types of vapers as "idiots". Is that not being critical, irrespective of the circumstances?

Now we all as one voice would suggest that the 0.11 ohm situation you mentioned is extremely ill-advised for all but the most experienced vaper but surely you'll agree it would be more beneficial to the new vaper concerned if you offered proactive advice on how to vape safely and to read up on battery,mod, coil building and airflow control skills rather than refer to them as idiots. Also, the use of such abusive terminology such as 'idiot' and 'jerk' reflects poorly on ECF should outsiders or new vapers stop by.

As for calling KenD a 'jerk' for suggesting you "deal with it", whilst I might not have used the exact same words as Ken, my advice would have been much the same. There is an old idiom that says 'There is more than one way to skin a rabbit' and this also applies to vaping. 'There is more than one way to vape'. I would suggest you accept that others have different preferences and opinions than yours and it does not necessarily make them idiots or jerks. Unless of course you were seeking to cause discourse from your troll-like posts. Especially your final sentence. Was that just poorly written or do you seriously believe that anyone who vapes sub-ohm is an idiot? A very self-opinionated statement if so.

There is a plethora of information on all aspects of sub-ohm vaping available, may I suggest you avail yourself.