What is The Real Deal with RY4?
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Oh, trust me, I'm on the same boat with you. I am so picky that if it's literally not exactly what I want, I refuse to vape it. Here's my list of "unvapables" CURRENTLY (if I find any of these that I like):
CHOCOLATE!- This is number one. It's gross, no matter what, to me.
Tobacco- So far they all taste like musty, spicey and/or sweet basement floors.
Cake/Vanilla- I taste PEPPER. The ONLY exceptions are juices from V-A-L and even then I still have to uncap and steep the juices just to make sure the juice can breathe and develope into a better taste. I've tried with many other juices to steep uncapped and still hated them.
Banana- I think it's more of a psychological thing because I had a medicine as a kid that was banana flavor. I can handle banana Runts candies, but it's GROSS with vaping to me.
Hot/Sweet Cinnamon- Again, psychological. I can't stand it because I had a scratch-n-sniff sticker on my anesthetic mask when I had my kidney surgery at 6 years old. It makes me sleepy and really... just I don't know, off.
Green Apple/Watermelon- Chemical taste with Green Apple. Watermelon is the same, really sweet and gross, except D's All Day from V-A-L juice. Just a no-no for me.
Marshmallow- Sugary air. Just not appealing to me at all.
...the list is larger than this, so I know exactly how you feel. Oh and Cherry, lemon, and lime taste either like medicine or cleaning supplies.
Oh, trust me, I'm on the same boat with you. I am so picky that if it's literally not exactly what I want, I refuse to vape it. Here's my list of "unvapables" CURRENTLY (if I find any of these that I like):
CHOCOLATE!- This is number one. It's gross, no matter what, to me.
Tobacco- So far they all taste like musty, spicey and/or sweet basement floors.
Cake/Vanilla- I taste PEPPER. The ONLY exceptions are juices from V-A-L and even then I still have to uncap and steep the juices just to make sure the juice can breathe and develope into a better taste. I've tried with many other juices to steep uncapped and still hated them.
Banana- I think it's more of a psychological thing because I had a medicine as a kid that was banana flavor. I can handle banana Runts candies, but it's GROSS with vaping to me.
Hot/Sweet Cinnamon- Again, psychological. I can't stand it because I had a scratch-n-sniff sticker on my anesthetic mask when I had my kidney surgery at 6 years old. It makes me sleepy and really... just I don't know, off.
Green Apple/Watermelon- Chemical taste with Green Apple. Watermelon is the same, really sweet and gross, except D's All Day from V-A-L juice. Just a no-no for me.
Marshmallow- Sugary air. Just not appealing to me at all.
...the list is larger than this, so I know exactly how you feel. Oh and Cherry, lemon, and lime taste either like medicine or cleaning supplies.
You got that right...I have tried about 85 juice and I find about 81 totally unvapable, there are 2 I like and 2 that are good but I cannot vape them for more than an hour. This is my subjective opinion but I think e-liquid is that bad. Vapors on ecf do not like if someone has a different opinion that is not similar to there's
I am surprised that you are not being vilified for your opinion. There appears to be no tolerance on ecf for anyone who mentions any remotely negative about juices or vaping in general. The first amendment has gone to die on ecf. I truly believe this. You should try not to be so negative. They are watching you, Also all the vendors are on here watching to see what is being said about their products. Shame on ecf and some of the people on this forum.
I have 3 juices from bwb coming and I intend to come on here and give my subjective opinion on them. My opinion which should tolerated by any one who believes in the idea of what this country is about. Thanks for your post.
I shall never give in to this forum. Kick me off and I will sue because my rights as an American are being trampled on right here on ecf. The audacity and Temerity to delete a thread that I started today. This forum has no tolerance for someone who stands up and gives his from the guts opinion. Most vapors are afraid to give a negative opinion for fear that what is happening to me will happen to them.
If you believe in freedom of speech and the idea of what this country is about, you should stand with me, if you do not, by all means stand against me.
If i want to spend my money on vaping materials, and you think I spend too much that is my business
If I cannot tolerate the juice, that is my business, not the people on this forum
I shall never SURRENDER MY RIGHTS AS AN AMERICAN, NEVER, AND PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM SHOULD NOT WANT ME TO
The first amendment forbids the government from enacting laws restricting the freedom of speech, religion, free assembly, etc. It does not apply to private entities such as ECF. They have every right to censor you as much as they like. Just like you have the right to post somewhere else if you don't like their rules.
Well, many people know me on here as a VERY picky person. I've tried vendors that I've loved and wrote reviews, and nobody has commented that I'm wrong. I am NOT the person to tussle with if I don't like a vendor or juice because I am not wrong to politely voice my opinion. I don't let anyone tell me I'm "wrong" about my flavor, but note that it should be done in a proper manner (I'm not saying you aren't for the record hehe). I don't like reviews that are mean, but I appreciate honesty. If anyone gives you a snarky attitude because you didn't like their favorite juice is being rude, as long as your review is honest and appropriate.
Take a breather, no worries about being kicked off, like I said, as long as your comments are within the politeness range.
You seem to be having trouble, and ECFers are here to help. If anything, feel free to PM me if you want info on the vendors I buy from (which is just two). I have only about 8-10 (10 at MOST) juices I vape happily, which is nothing compared to some, and a lot compared to others.As I mentioned before, I know what you mean about being picky. Vaping should NEVER, EVER be about "hype" and what everyone loves; it's about what works for you and you alone.
I do agree with this, just to note
If a person is straight up rude or innappropriate with a thread, post, or review, it should be deleted. Again if someone just simply says, "While many like this juice, it just isn't for me", that is fine. I really truly dislike it when someone says "While many like this juice, it is 
garbage." Not only is it not helpful, but it's rude.
Well, many people know me on here as a VERY picky person. I've tried vendors that I've loved and wrote reviews, and nobody has commented that I'm wrong. I am NOT the person to tussle with if I don't like a vendor or juice because I am not wrong to politely voice my opinion. I don't let anyone tell me I'm "wrong" about my flavor, but note that it should be done in a proper manner (I'm not saying you aren't for the record hehe). I don't like reviews that are mean, but I appreciate honesty. If anyone gives you a snarky attitude because you didn't like their favorite juice is being rude, as long as your review is honest and appropriate.
Take a breather, no worries about being kicked off, like I said, as long as your comments are within the politeness range.
As I mentioned before, I know what you mean about being picky. Vaping should NEVER, EVER be about "hype" and what everyone loves; it's about what works for you and you alone.
i understand what you are saying so why has my latest thread been deleted when I was trying to be nice. If a juice is great and you praise it, everyone loves and agrees with you on ecf for the most part, but if you say a juice is horrendous and unvapable, You get vilified.
I'm sorry but that is not right, if a juice taste like vomit what should the reviewer say. he should give his opinion and everyone should respect that opinion whether they agree with it or not.
Take it easy
No worries, Frankster
I know what you mean. If something is really, truly that bad, it SHOULD be stated, but I am glad that I haven't had a vomit-tasting juice 
If you really want to see some juice-bashing, go find some "Crab Juice" e-liquid reviews. They're highly entertaining. Edit: I didn't see what thread you made that was deleted, so I can't provide any answers.
You think it's bad saying negative things about juice, try posting a thread about having negative symptoms that you think are vaping related. They will come out of the woodwork to tell you that there's no way its from vaping and there is something else wrong with you! I personally haven't had any problems myself but I've seen new people come in and post a thread because they're concerned about vaping and their health and they get slammed for posting it, even in the "health and vaping" section. Stay happy and positive or don't post here, you'll upset someone!
And you probably looked it up too...how .... can you get...That is the problem with this forum...many vapors are totally .......I have to be tossed off here, because I will never leave...If you do not like what I say...just pass by
I hope the BWB fits your tastebuds. I haven't yet tried it, they're always out of stock. I like their Casablanca in cartos tho.
Honey-Flu-cured by LX is one of my favorites too. (I like the prefilled more than the bottle tho).
Dulcis is another of my favorites. For ALL-DAY vaping. It hits the spot. Not too rich, not too overpowering, not too bland.
but they're always sold out anymore and it's been a long time since I've ordered.
When I first started vaping, I was totally addicted to Jantyworld's RY4 and they're Apple. They've since changed the recipe, and I haven't tried the new recipe yet. They are pretty expensive.
Right now, I'm pretty happy with the Volt's RY4 in my Volt. It's not bad. Plus I have a ton of other flavors that I use in my other mods. (eGo, Reo Grand, SB, Copper Q). I have an all around assortment of flavors that keeps me happy. It takes awhile to build up an assortment of preferred flavors, but hang in there, you'll find them yet.
If Grimm were to do a newer RY4 vid, he'd be all over the map lol.
His favorite was Dulcis for a long time. Now it's PSV I think. Our tastesbuds change as we vape... they awaken, they deaden, they go through so many changes. Switching a vape throughout the day will help to keep the tastebuds fresh.
Some flavors prefer hot (5-6v) while others prefer cool (3.2) while many don't much care one way or another. Most, however, seem to fall into the 3.7v range. Slap together a 6v with a 3.0 carto and it's another flavor worth shouting about.
I would seriously consider picking up a nice VV and having another go with those juices, at various volts. (Like Vapian does in his juice reviews).
Best of luck to you!
Honey-Flu-cured by LX is one of my favorites too. (I like the prefilled more than the bottle tho).
Dulcis is another of my favorites. For ALL-DAY vaping. It hits the spot. Not too rich, not too overpowering, not too bland.
but they're always sold out anymore and it's been a long time since I've ordered.
When I first started vaping, I was totally addicted to Jantyworld's RY4 and they're Apple. They've since changed the recipe, and I haven't tried the new recipe yet. They are pretty expensive.
Right now, I'm pretty happy with the Volt's RY4 in my Volt. It's not bad. Plus I have a ton of other flavors that I use in my other mods. (eGo, Reo Grand, SB, Copper Q). I have an all around assortment of flavors that keeps me happy. It takes awhile to build up an assortment of preferred flavors, but hang in there, you'll find them yet.
If Grimm were to do a newer RY4 vid, he'd be all over the map lol.
His favorite was Dulcis for a long time. Now it's PSV I think. Our tastesbuds change as we vape... they awaken, they deaden, they go through so many changes. Switching a vape throughout the day will help to keep the tastebuds fresh.
Some flavors prefer hot (5-6v) while others prefer cool (3.2) while many don't much care one way or another. Most, however, seem to fall into the 3.7v range. Slap together a 6v with a 3.0 carto and it's another flavor worth shouting about.
I would seriously consider picking up a nice VV and having another go with those juices, at various volts. (Like Vapian does in his juice reviews).
Best of luck to you!
Thank you for the info...you mentioned grimgreen's new favorite psv...I do not know what that is...I totally agree on the vv...That has to be the smartest way to go...at least then, you will know everything about a juice. I love the honey-flu from lxp and the dulsis...they have been out of stock for a month...where does this juice come from? outer space. Thank god I have the honey flu here, I can vape...I am so hesitant to try an ry4 based on my experience with that type juice. I cannot see how dulsis is an ry4 as was posted in the big ry4 roundup...I just do not see it or taste it.
Thanks again
Frankster, I think you will have to really age the BWBs in order to taste them. I have had mine for a week, and still can't really taste them.
hello there...I was just watching a video of someone doing a bwb 555 and according to this reviewer, he thought that it had a flora taste which I have had with at least 20 juices. Then he goes on to say, that after he let it steep for 2 months, it got alot better. I do not need to buy a juice if I have to wait 2 months for it to steep, why not just call bwb and ask if they can put it on the side and send it in 2 months.
I feel that when you buy a juice, if the vendor does not tell you that it should steep, that is the same as telling you the juice is good to go. I'm sorry if people do not agree with this, that is how I feel. This flora taste...it is totally horrible, once I get that from a house, I cannot go back and try anything else...tobacco is not supposed to taste like a rose.
I agree! I think BWB should try to predict how much stock they need and then possibly overshoot it, take a loss, and then either raise prices or go out of business. That seems like the ideal way to run a business.
Or you can be proactive and spend 30 seconds to read user reviews they have on the site where it's mentioned plenty that you might have better luck with steeping them to get the best experience.
Or we can hold your hand for you if you have trouble reading up and educating yourself about things you are purchasing over the Internet. But you have to ask nicely.
Or you can be proactive and spend 30 seconds to read user reviews they have on the site where it's mentioned plenty that you might have better luck with steeping them to get the best experience.
Or we can hold your hand for you if you have trouble reading up and educating yourself about things you are purchasing over the Internet. But you have to ask nicely.
Get a life dude and stop being a coward by standing behind your keyboard...I do not care what a reviewer says. if bwb does not state it ...it should be ready to go...I guarantee you that their juice is horrendous and taste like flowers...stop being .... and go attack someone else.
Chill, dude. Lower those defenses. I didn't say you should leave. I explained how the Constitution works, their rights under the law, and yours as well.
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