What is the safest Dekang flavor?

[MichaelOz]

I'm waiting for decent juice to arrive from USA. Frankly after being in the vaping scene for 2 months, I've had very bad experiences with ordering juice from my local country.

Local guys here only sell Dekang, and from what I'm learning its the worst juice money can buy. Some people claim "They wouldn't let their dogs vape it". I can believe this.

Anyways, I'm kinda stuck now for 2 weeks while waiting for my first order to arrive from USA (Vaperite - THANKS TODD and God Bless America!), so I need to make one last order of the yuck stuff from local supplier.

I've gotten to the flavor drop down list, and really all I'm thinking is which juice won't taste like week old garbage left in the sun, or horse manure.

The last order (which made me change to USA supplier) was so bad, I was vaping it with friends, and this girl tells me, that juice really smells like grass. I wasn't offended because I know it smells and tastes like ....

Anyways, if you absolutely had to order Dekang, which flavor(s) would be the least risky, and provide a slightly better taste than the rotten bum of a roadkill skunk?

I don't expect it to taste great, just not completely disgusting. Oh and local guys don't stock RY4 Dekang, so that's out!

 

[Abe]

Quite a damning post, I wouldn't, on the whole, agree with what your saying as dekang supply a LOT of the juice in the world you either don't get on with dekang juice or something is wrong, possible storage issue? We've handled 10's of thousands of bottles with a very small percentage of serious flavour problems. We have had poor runs of bottles from certain lines and they tend to get pulled and the manufacturer told, well, they are actually labelling issues. All I can say is, I hope your US liquid lives up to what you expect, I have had some truely awful US boutique liquid (and also some very good boutique liquids).

What Dekang flavours do you buy?

 

[MichaelOz]

Quite a damning post, I wouldn't, on the whole, agree with what your saying as dekang supply a LOT of the juice in the world you either don't get on with dekang juice or something is wrong, possible storage issue? We've handled 10's of thousands of bottles with a very small percentage of serious flavour problems. We have had poor runs of bottles from certain lines and they tend to get pulled and the manufacturer told, well, they are actually labelling issues. All I can say is, I hope your US liquid lives up to what you expect, I have had some truely awful US boutique liquid (and also some very good boutique liquids).

What Dekang flavours do you buy?

Same flavors these guys buy: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...108371-i-hate-dekang-boge-liquid-kah-kah.html

So in your opinion what is the safest bet LibertyFlights, which Dekang juice that you sell has the lowest return to sale ratio?

 

[Abe]

Taste is subjective I suppose, good luck. There are better fruits than dekang but that is quite a small(ish) market, I am sure they are happy blitzing 90% of the tobaccos out there. I've read that thread by the way, some very good points made on it but like usual, its lost on most people.

 

[K.P.]

In my experience, it's the tobacco flavours that have variability and occasional questionable quality. That is, I have ordered a 10ml bottle of a Dekang tobacco flavour and liked it, then ordered a 30ml bottle from the same source and found it to be awful. But 555/State Express has always been a safe choice.

Also, the sweet fruit flavours have had some variation but are always acceptable (just not great). They taste like lollipops or boiled sweets to me. Sometimes nice, sometimes 'meh' but never throw-the-bottle-away-awful.

 

[MichaelOz]

In my experience, it's the tobacco flavours that have variability and occasional questionable quality. That is, I have ordered a 10ml bottle of a Dekang tobacco flavour and liked it, then ordered a 30ml bottle from the same source and found it to be awful. But 555/State Express has always been a safe choice.

Also, the sweet fruit flavours have had some variation but are always acceptable (just not great). They taste like lollipops or boiled sweets to me. Sometimes nice, sometimes 'meh' but never throw-the-bottle-away-awful.

If you were to bet money on it, which would you say is safer - Strawberry or 555?

 

[Automaton]

To be *completely* honest, I just wouldn't. Period.

I have read some pretty bad stories about possible health-related concerns with their quality control. And I just refuse to vape it. I'd rather vape nothing but straight PG.

 

[MichaelOz]

To be *completely* honest, I just wouldn't. Period.

I have read some pretty bad stories about possible health-related concerns with their quality control. And I just refuse to vape it. I'd rather vape nothing but straight PG.

You actually make a valid point Mistress, I've got about 50ml's left of this roadkill. Its just so bad, I was thinking of throwing it out and getting something interim. But maybe I should just tolerate smoking this blasphemy for another 2 weeks, rather than risk getting more crud. I think I might actually try pure VG.

 

[googled]

I'd ignore the health concerns posted above, Dekang have had their facilities scrutinised, more than can be said for many many other vendors. The fact that the produce 90% of the worlds juice should tell you something about any 'health issues' - the forums are hardly full of people dying from using their juice.
As far as their flavours are concerned, I found Hilton and Winston to be acceptable, a friend of mine uses a lot of their caramel, RY4 and cappuccino - general rule of thumb is to stick to fairly bland flavours and avoid anything remotely exotic.

 

[Automaton]

I have now read 2 accounts, one on this forum and another from a person I trust very much with this kind of research, showing worrying results about Dekang's quality control. The person from this forum reportedly went to the hospital as a result of the juice, which had drastically mis-labeled nic levels and non-consumable grade PG.

 

[K.P.]

If you were to bet money on it, which would you say is safer - Strawberry or 555?

I've never had a bad bottle of 555, and I've had several. I've never had a bad strawberry, but I've only had one, and I didn't like it (or any other fruit flavours) enough to reorder it.

As I said above, if I split the Dekang juices I've tried into tobacco and non-tobacco, then the non- are safe in that I've never had one so bad I'd throw it out. But I've had a TAB and a RY4 plagued with the chemically-perfume taste such that I binned them, and maybe a Camel too.

I'd say
Strawberry: very unlikely to be intolerably bad, also unlikely to be very good
555, Coffee, or Cappuccino: tiny risk (had one 'meh' bottle of coffee once, but not actually bad or not-fit-to-vape), more likely to be actually good
All other tobacco flavours I've tried lumped together: 30% chance of being either spoiled or simply not-good

 

[jmaul99]

The only one I've found thats tolerable is Banana cream not the regular Banana though. Also, Vaperite was a good choice for your
1st order of American juice all I have tried are excellent. The organic line is the best, in my opinion.

 

[prof beard]

I've used Dekang liquids from a number of UK suppliers, including Dekang's own UK outlet and Liberty Flights. I'm mainly a tobacco flavour person and I have had no problem whatsoever with Dekang liquid apart from one instance of wrong flavour labelling. Dekang do indeed make an enormous percentage of the worlds e-liquid and have been much more open than most about their production facilities. What happens to Dekang liquid once vendors get their hands on it is outside Dekang's control and frankly I suspect that is where most problems originate..

I can honestly say that I've tried the same flavour from three UK different UK Dekang vendors and found it to be the same from each - BUT these are vendors who are completely open about supplying "straight Dekang" juice.

 

[Craymar]

WoW is all can say. Where did this come from about Dekang e-juices. It's sure not a wide spread opinion. After buying serveral USA made e-juice that where suppose to be way better than Dekang my mother went back to Dekang. She did not like the USA made tobacco flavors. Some where way to thick and would not wick in her cartomizers(old version 1 Carts). She spent 3 times as much and coukld no even vape the crap without cutting it with Dekang juice. To each there own but less be real here. Most USA juices are mixed in someones kitchen.

 

[xg4bx]

WoW is all can say. Where did this come from about Dekang e-juices. It's sure not a wide spread opinion. After buying serveral USA made e-juice that where suppose to be way better than Dekang my mother went back to Dekang. She did not like the USA made tobacco flavors. Some where way to thick and would not wick in her cartomizers(old version 1 Carts). She spent 3 times as much and coukld no even vape the crap without cutting it with Dekang juice. To each there own but less be real here. Most USA juices are mixed in someones kitchen.

I tend to agree. I've gotten many bottles of DK and never had a single problem yet I've gotten bottles of American juice that tasted like literal vomit.

Personally I think alot of it boils down to an anti-Chinese sentiment. I smell a touch of xenophobia when people start rallying against Chinese quality control standards. We've got plenty of our own homegrown **** on the market with questionable quality.

 

[Automaton]

I'm not disagreeing that there is bad and poor quality American juice out there. Hell, look at the whole Rath fiasco.

I use stock batts, atties, and cartos, all made in China, and have no real problems with their quality. I'm not anti-Chinese. I fully believe the Chinese deserve their dues for inventing these things in the first place.

I base my apprehension of Dekang on the research I have done. Not on if people liked it or not, but on cases of people discovering factual quality deficits in the juice.

And I do just as much research when I buy American juice, or when I buy ingredients for DIY.

 

[Firefly13]

Here we go again.... to cut a long story short, if it's old manufactured juice from them, like towards the start of the year, they did have some real ....ty tasting juice, but anything dated around may and after, i haven't tasted even one flavor with the infamous perfumey / chemical taste, there are vendors out there with the crappy old stock still mixed with the new (like V4L), you just gotta inquire first to make sure it's not dated from donkeys ago otherwise it's gonna be hit and miss with what you get.

 

[K.P.]

I've been using some fancy UK & US liquids for awhile because they were on sale, and apart from one I can't say any have impressed me enough to want to swear off Dekang liquid. When I've switched back to a DK liquid, it's still as good as I remember. But my tastebuds don't lie--I've had a couple really bad, spoiled bottles.

It doesn't bother me. Until TECC's sale, I was ordering all my stuff direct from China for about 18 months. At those prices, a short-lived atomiser here and a spoiled bottle there isn't really worth the time it would take to wrap it and take it to the post office to return.

 

[MichaelOz]

Thank you everyone for contributing to this thread.

To summarize:

1. It seems tobacco flavored Dekang is the safest bet, possibly 555.
2. Storage of Dekang seems to play a part in the inconsistency of the flavor - I'm guessing this is a general issue of ejuice, so after about a year it should foul.
3. Dekang definitely varies considerably in recipe from order to order at random - I would like to add that the consistency of Dekang juice is so questionable, I really do have questions as to what exactly they're putting in there. You know every other, every single other product I consume, be that biscuits or chips or even regular analogs, hell even every single chocolate or sweet I can think of - tastes exactly the same every time. Why is Dekang the exception?
4. Dekang resellers actually have small text warnings saying "Recipe may vary from time to time... , we are not responsible for the tastes and sensations". Well they're just selling what they've bought in bulk from Dekang, what I will say is I am deeply unimpressed with these suppliers, clearly just in it for the money. In this post I've seen a few come to the table trying to justify Dekang - call a spade a spade, its inferior quality and unpredictable juice - period! What I would recommend to those of you who are selling Dekang is, if someone gets a dud order (which happens) completely refund them or immediately send them a (tested) replacement. If you can't test juice you shouldn't be selling it!
5. Well USA juice might not be the holy grail - I've gone with Vaperite. I'll be posting a full blog post on my experience, but I would bet money on it right now I won't be disappointed.
6. I wouldn't dismiss health concerns. How can you trust something that has no consistency at all!
7. To bring in racial issues into this post is just crazy. Not really about xenophobia at all, I'll add I'm European, most of our goods here are manufactured in China. Not about racial issues, but is definitely about Dekang as a company and as a product.

 

[banjo]

If anyone here has any "research" on the safety and quality DeKang juice, I would like to see it. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about a particular juice, but to just make accusations and engage in name calling is not very useful. I value many member's opinions, and seek it out when I'm buying juice, but to engage in what I've seen on this thread is not very productive, and not very informative. Most of my mixed juices are from FSUSA, one of my favorite suppliers, but I've also purchased and used a lot of DeKang juices, particularly 555 and Flue Cured, and find them to be of high quality and consistancy. My research on this forum of DeKang juices shows about the same spread of opinions that I've found on other suppliers, but the overall opinion of Dekang's juices is generally favorable..... And, I agree that every supplier should stand behind their products, listen to what their customers are telling them, and make good on any unacceptable product they sell......