What is your favorite mod 3.7v?

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Which are the differences between Reo grand and Reo mini? (except the size:))

The REO Grand holds 6ml of juice and uses an AW IMR 18650 battery, which should last all day. It also can be used with some 5v and 6v battery set ups.

The REO Mini holds 3ml of juice and uses an AW IMR 14500 battery (the ONLY battery recommended), and 2-3 batteries will get you through a day.

I have very small hands and vape 3ml per day, so I prefer the Mini. The batteries are very easy to change. Lots of people prefer the Grand.

Here is a great picture of the relative size:

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I use a plain box mod and its great. I would love an 18650 3.7 volt like a Purple or Pink Silver Bullet one day when funds allow. I have no interest in VV mods just want me a longer battery life at 3.7 and pretty color...lol I prefer a mod with a button switch instead of the tactile switch or whatever its called Like on the Maxi Roughstack. I would happily take a box mod that had the higher battery life too for a more modest price than the Silver Bullet.
 
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Why please? for the Reo or for 3.7v generaly?

Really, all 3.7v mods that use 14500 batteries should use AW IMR batteries (BDLs are theoretically OK, but there have been a lot of people unhappy with their performance).

From http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/129569-rechargeable-batteries.html

14500 battery - 3.6 v
4.2 volts off charge, 3.6 volts in use, 3 volts minimum
14mm x 50mm (AA size)
THIS IS THE SMALLEST CELL THOUGHT TO BE SUITABLE FOR USE IN A MOD. Cells smaller than this simply do not have a high enough C rating. Not all cells of this size will have sufficient power, only AW Li-Mn cells are known to be safe at this size, others may be but this cannot be stated as fact.

Power rating for rechargeables

The critical factor for ecig mod use is the C rating (discharge current) in amps. The minimum possible value for safe and effective ecig use is 1 amp (= 1000mA) although ideally it needs to be higher. The ideal rating is 2 amps (2000mA) or better as an atomizer usually draws 1A to 2A.

Chart of C ratings vs size
1C or less for low-quality Li-FePo4
Assume 1C for generic Li-ion unless otherwise noted
1.5C for ultra/sure/trust/-fire Li-ion
2C for AW ICR (Li-ion)
3C for BDL 10440 IMR (Li-Mn)
5C for BDL 14500 IMR (Li-Mn)
8C for AW 14500 and 16340 IMR (Li-Mn)
10C for AW 18650 IMR (Li-Mn)
10C for AW Li-FePo4

Note:
Tenergy etc Li-FePo4 (small cells) - <0.55A (~1C - half an amp or less - not suitable for ecig use)

Max drain rate in amps is C in mAh / 1000 x C rating
Example: an AW IMR Li-Mn 14500 battery has a capacity of 600mAh. The C rating is 8C (it can supply 8 times the capacity). Therefore the max discharge current in amps is:
600 x 8 over 1000 (600 multiplied by 8 divided by 1000)
= 4800 / 1000
= 4.8 amps
This shows it has enough beef to safely and effectively run an atomizer - which some 14500's don't. In other words it is less likely to go into thermal runaway if there is an internal fault in the battery and is then used to power a device that draws a relatively high current such as an atomizer; and it will not suffer from excessive voltage drop when powering the atty.

Useful formulas
Amp draw = voltage / resistance
Example: a 5 volt mod is used with a 2.5 ohm atomizer - what current is drawn?
5 / 2.5 = 2
The battery must supply 2 amps.

Power used by atomizer in Watts = volts x amps, or volts x volts / resistance
Example: a 5 volt mod delivers 2 amps to the 2.5 ohm atty - what power is used?
5 x 2 = 10
The atty uses 10 watts
or
5 x 5 / 2.5 = 10 watts
 

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AW IMR's are not the only good bat on the planet

They are not the only good battery on the planet, but in the 14500 size, they are the only acceptable battery to use with LR attys. If you look at the formula, bigger batteries have higher capacity, therefore not as critical.
 

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    They are not the only good battery on the planet, but in the 14500 size, they are the only acceptable battery to use with LR attys. If you look at the formula, bigger batteries have higher capacity, therefore not as critical.

    Wow Am I ever in trouble then
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    This huge 10440 flame that I've had a 1.5ohm 306 on for the last 6 months is going to imlode at any moment!

    Here's what's wrong with your example;
    How in the hell did you get 5v out of one 14500 bat without a booster ckt?
    So let's run your little formula at 3.7v which would only be 6.8watts @ 1.8amps

    Yes I run 5v on 14500's a great deal of the time, but it's two of them rated @ 900mAh each (with 3ohm atties/cartos)
    Which is 8watts @ 1.6amps
     
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