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  1. ThreadKiller

    ThreadKiller Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 19, 2012
    AGFFA
    What I've Learned in a Month of Vaping OR
    Random Thoughts From A Noob

    I wanted to write some of my experiences down while still fresh. Who knows?
    Something might just help others.

    --Those "free trials" aren't free. Yes, it's low cost to try out the product,
    but they sign you up for their other products (automatically) and you have to
    tell them to stop.

    --Finding the right e-liquid for you can be hard. The trick in the beginning is
    to find something you can live with for awhile and get a 30 or 60ml bottle to
    hold you over while you try different flavors to find that "daily vape" flavor
    you really like. My initial mistake with SI (Smokeless Image) was that I only got the sample pack and didn't order extra cartomizers or eliquid. After 5 days I was out of
    cartomizers and had to buy regular cigs to tide me over until I could order
    more.

    --Someone else's recommendation regarding flavors is usually pretty useless to
    you. Descriptions like "sweet" or "minty" can be helpful, but overall, our
    tastes are different. Having said that, if you don't have any experience with
    different flavors, you might want to try other people's suggestions since you
    won't have much else to go on. It's all hit or miss. Some people get lucky and
    find their perfect flavor right away. Try not to hate them too much.

    --The sheer amount of eliquid flavors can be daunting. I suggest trying
    different tobacco flavors first. For one thing, it cuts down on the choices at
    the beginning. For another, I think it's better to find something that tastes
    close to a regular cigarette to help you wean your way off easier. Your results
    may vary.

    --Sample packs of flavors should always be purchased with a Starter Kit. If you
    don't know what flavors you like, it's best to have small samples of different
    types so you can see what you might like.

    --Always get at least two batteries with your initial purchase. One automatic
    and one manual (to see which kind you prefer). If you only have one, what are
    you gonna do while it is charging? Probably have a regular cig.

    --Your tastebuds will probably change the farther away you get from your last
    cigarette. It will affect how your food tastes, but it can also change how your
    favorite e-liquid tastes.

    --I smoked at home only in my garage for the last few years. Once I started
    vaping, I rarely had an urge to smoke, but quite often I had the urge to go into
    my garage. (This would not count as a "senior moment" unless I actually walked
    into the garage and wondered why.) Smoking cigarettes probably isn't the only
    habit you'll want to break.

    --Remember when you first looked into vaping and tried to figure out what is
    what? Confusing, wasn't it? Not only were you trying to learn a brand new
    nomenclature, you were trying to figure out all the different hardware setups.
    "What should I buy?" is the biggest question for noobs, but the hardest to find
    the answer to. Choice is a good thing, but not so much when you're first trying
    to understand everything. It can be overwhelming. There's tons of information,
    but very little guidance.

    --It was good that I finally found a vendor (Smokeless Image) that only sold one
    style of e-cigarette. The important thing was to get started vaping and get off
    regular cigarettes. If I find that I want some funky mod set-up later, that's
    fine, but I needed to get started first.

    --Cartomizers vs Atomizers. I found good explanations of each when I was
    researching, but none of the information told me what I should get. If you're
    just starting, I recommend Cartomizers. Cartomizer setups are two-piece
    (cartomizer and battery) while atomizer setups are three-piece (atomizer,
    battery, cartridge). Keep it as simple as possible to start with. You can
    check out the atomizer setups later.

    --Find vendors that have good customer service when getting started. Cheap is
    great, but if the company is unreliable and won't (or can't) help you, what good
    is lower pricing? After you've been vaping for awhile and have yourself
    'settled', then you can try out some of those cheaper places. Not saying that
    cheaper places are bad, or that more expensive ones are good. I'm saying that
    when you start out, you want to feel comfortable giving your money to the
    vendor. Check out the ECF forums to see what others recommend and why. Lots of
    positive remarks about a company are a good indicator. One or two positives (or
    negatives) aren't very useful.

    For example: After some not-so-great experiences, I was looking
    one last time for a company/brand/setup to buy. My head was already full of new
    knowlege and terms (Analog, mod, cartomizer, atomizer, WTH????). I went through
    ECF posts and I kept seeing Volts recommended for first time users. I saw a few
    of these before I decided to look at the Smokeless Image (makers of the Volt)
    website. I was happy to find only one type of setup. I also saw that SI had a
    forum on ECF, so I ghosted around awhile and checked out the 'residents'. Nice
    group, happy with the product. That sold me, so I bought a Starter Kit and
    haven't looked back. I expand on this point later.

    --This is personal preference only...I went to quite a few vendor websites to
    look at prospective e-cigs. A whole lot of those sites looked like they were
    put together by 12 year olds. Not very professional and they had a mismash of
    different components, setups, eliquids, etc. It just hurt to look at some of
    them. The site for Smokeless Image was simple, yet professional looking. That
    was part of why I decided to purchase there. I say this is just a personal
    preference because the vendor site I went to first, looked very professional
    too, but they werent' someone I wanted to buy from.

    --If you're brand new to e-cigs, find a reputable company first, then decide
    what Starter Kit to buy. That sounds backwards, but I believe it isn't. When
    you're new to this, odds are you won't know what you're doing. I sure didn't.
    A reputable company will help you if you have questions, either by phone or a
    very good FAQ page or even in an ECF forum if the vendor is represented there.
    Tip: When starting to look at vendors, a good sign is if they are represented
    in the ECF forum. Not all of them are, and while the list of ECF vendors is
    long, it's not nearly as long as what you'd get trying to find a vendor through
    Google.

    --Finding a vendor can be a long and winding road. My example of how I wound up
    with SI:

    My wife forwarded to me a postive article on e-cigs. That email contained a
    link to a (nameless) company. I tried their product. Happy with the product,
    but not happy with the pricing or the availability of customer service, I went
    shopping.

    From there, I found youtube vids (very entertaining, some of them).
    The Youtube vids mentioned ECF.
    On ECF I went into research mode until my head ached.

    While that was going on, I tried a different company that I kinda liked, but
    wasn't completely satisfied with. After that second company (and about $100
    spent), I decide to try one more company and that was it.

    On ECF, I was finding posts talking about
    recommendations for new users. A few mentioned the Volt and SI. Reliable,
    great customer service. Sounded good so far. Went to the website, liked the
    look (and that they were only selling one type of unit). Not quite convinced, I
    found that SI had a presence on ECF so I started snooping around. The people
    were nice, but more importantly, they were very happy with the product and raved
    about the customer service. So, I purchased a starter kit.

    --Smoking and vaping are not exactly the same procedure. There's an ECF article
    on how to vape "correctly". It's a good starting point, but you'll need to
    experiment a bit. For example. Part of the preferred method is to exhale the
    vapor through your nose. It irritates my nose, so I don't normally do that.
    Check out the article (I think it's in the ECF FAQ section).

    --Where smoking and vaping are the same is in that they are both just means to
    get nicotine into your system. The difference is that with vaping you are only
    putting nicotine into your body and not the smoke and tar or hundreds of
    chemicals from lighting up a regular cig.

    --The smoke from cigarettes is more efficient in getting nicotine into your
    system than the vapor from e-cigs, according to what I've read. Don't be
    surprised if you vape more often than you smoked in order to introduce the same
    amount of nicotine into your body. I was initially alarmed at how much I vaped
    at first. I was afraid that I was sucking in too much nicotine. Now knowing
    about this, it's not so worrying.

    --Finding that as my tastebuds get back to "normal", I can taste VG liquids
    better. At first, I could hardly taste them at all.

    --Initial cash layout can be between $75 and $100 to get you started and going
    for awhile. That's for a starter kit, extra batteries, some eliquids and other
    doo-dads.
    And that's if you happen to find the right vendor the first time.
    For some of us, that's no big deal. For others, that's a lot. You have to
    balance that against how much you pay for regular cigs.

    --My first e-cig vendor was a bust, but the unit they sent me still has value.
    I bought some extra cartomizers for it and I lend it out to friends and
    acquaintances that would like to try out e-cigs but don't know much about them.
    If they think they'd be interested in trying e-cigs, I send them to my "good"
    vendor (SI).
    If you have a unit that you don't particularly like, loan it out to others. Who
    knows, you might be saving someone's life. You'll at least save them from
    spending lots of money all over the place.

    Got any random thoughts or noob experiences of your own? Share them here.
     
  2. Poppie

    Poppie Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 14, 2012
    Detroit, Michigan
    This is a well thought out and well written post that I wish I could have read when I was just starting out. This should be very helpful to a lot of people. There are wonderful suggestions, especially about the e-juice.
    Well done!! :thumbs: :banana:
     
  3. ThreadKiller

    ThreadKiller Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 19, 2012
    AGFFA
    Thanks, Poppie!
     
  4. ThreadKiller

    ThreadKiller Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 19, 2012
    AGFFA
    Looks like the format came out wrong. I'll fix it later. :)
     
  5. ctourtelot

    ctourtelot Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 3, 2009
    Richmond, VA
    Nice post and I think quite helpful to new members! Well done.
     
  6. CatLady007

    CatLady007 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 19, 2011
    FL Panhandle
    It looks ok to me, Ron.
     
  7. rave

    rave * Resident Wood Nymph * Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 20, 2009
    Raven's Haven, Indiana
    EXTREMELY well done!! If only I'd been able to find this info all in one place when I first started vaping in August of 2009. *sigh* Coulda save a lot of money. But, thank you for putting this together. :thumbs:
     
  8. starsong

    starsong Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jan 1, 2011
    SoCal
    You should post this in the New Member's forum. You can't start your own thread anymore there, but you can reply to one of the numerous posts there asking for advise.
     
  9. ThreadKiller

    ThreadKiller Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 19, 2012
    AGFFA
    Thanks! :smile:
     
  10. Staceylt40

    Staceylt40 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 14, 2012
    East Texas
    I couldn't have said it better myself Ron. Well done. :eek:)
     
  11. ThreadKiller

    ThreadKiller Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 19, 2012
    AGFFA
    Thanks, CatLady. I think I'll take your advice and leave it as is. If I fix it up, it will be all crunched together and a pain to read.
     
  12. ThreadKiller

    ThreadKiller Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 19, 2012
    AGFFA
    Thanks, Stacey!
     
  13. ThreadKiller

    ThreadKiller Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 19, 2012
    AGFFA
    Wish I could have found something like this before I started too. I'm sure there is, but where?
     
  14. ThreadKiller

    ThreadKiller Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 19, 2012
    AGFFA
    I'm gonna look into that. Thanks!
     
  15. Gormy

    Gormy Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 16, 2011
    Hollywood, MD
    Great post.. ThreadStarter.. hehe

     
  16. Gormy

    Gormy Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 16, 2011
    Hollywood, MD
    Yeah.. about the analog to e-cig nic comparison.. my mother kept giving me grief on how much I vaped, so had to explain it to her hehe.
     
  17. McDougal

    McDougal Super Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 14, 2011
    Louisville, KY
    New PV users can be bombarded with marketing from companies that rebrand, then seriously overprice. A quick Google of "e-cigarette" brings the major offenders to the top of the search, within faux "review" sites. Then, they get ripped off, or as I like to say, "White clouded."

    It's good that ECF hits toward the top, as well.
     
  18. kia2

    kia2 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 4, 2012
    USA
    A very nice, informative post.

    I have to say, though, I've spent a whole lot more than $100 in my journey to being tobacco free. This is probably due to the fact that I immediately sent my brother a kit, my cousin a kit, and bought kits for a neighbor and her son to try and quit with as well. Not to mention my addiction to accessories and hoarding batteries, which has my next order of no less than three kits pending a good sale. I only have two other addictions similar to this, thank god, because it would be extremely detrimental to my financial well being if those two weren't already under control. I suspect my vaping hoarding tendencies will slow in about another month (I hope).
     
  19. ThreadKiller

    ThreadKiller Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 19, 2012
    AGFFA
    Not changing my name again. Unlike some people that can't seem to stop changing theirs. :laugh:
     
  20. starsong

    starsong Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jan 1, 2011
    SoCal
    who changed theirs more than once?
     
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