What made the transition off analogues easier for you?

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kathyst

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It does help to know there are other people out there going through the same thing. But it's different from just knowing there are other people going through the tortures of the damned while trying to quit "cold turkey." It's fascinating hearing one success-story after another due to this e-cig technology. That's a cool thing: rather than oy, this is miserable it's more like wow...this is working. Pretty striking difference.

The non-smoker would say (and they have said this to me): yeah, but you're still addicted to nicotine. Ok, fair enough. I don't have a clever answer to that one. I can say only: right you are -- and I'm not breathing in arsenic, carbon monoxide, formaldehyde, and the other horrific stuff that it's said you ingest when smoking cigarettes. A perfect world, it's not.

It's also a good thing because as you point out, non-smokers -- even those who mean well (as opposed to the ones who enjoy occupying some Higher Moral Plane Than Thou...don't get me started) -- don't know what it means to a die-hard smoker to cut down to this level I've gotten to. And I don't expect them to "relate" to it, either.
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Do NOT get me started, either, Mikea!

I don't have the clever answer or learned retort to the "you're still addicted to nicotine" thing, either...except to say nicotine in its natural form is in a whole lot of plants, foods we eat, etc., and besides, people are basically, though maybe not literally, addicted to caffeine and to diet sodas and what have you. Not to mention alcohol. So there, to them. And besides, they've been so happy to ..... mightily about second-hand smoke, and now that isn't an issue.

I love what you said about being of support here in the way that we get to be able to. This is an upbeat, positive place, not a den of suffering!! A support group of cold-turkey quitters wouldn't be of much help. Certainly not an on-line one. I used to always say they'd have to put me away for me to quit. Which would work, but then when I got back into the real world, would it all translate?

That's why this is so doable for me, for the first time, to quit analogs using e-cigs. This is my "real world," and I get to quit the harmful tobacco-smoking. It would certainly be easier to start from vaping when I want to quit the whole habit entirely.

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I totally get what you mean, T, that if there were analogs around you would smoke them. You say you have no option, but you do have the option -- you could talk yourself into allowing yourself to get a pack next time you're out, or even go out on purpose and get a pack. But you haven't (besides that one work day). So, I'm proud of you for not doing that.
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When the taxes went way up I got myself a cigarette tube injecting machine and started making my own. I still have quite a quantity of tobacco. I can make 'em any time I want -- no running to the store. So I had 2 this morning, sigh. But I deliberately didn't take any cigarettes to work today. I thought: can I do this?

Partway through the day the craving started to hit. I've got the 801 with me...not enough. But this time I had brought one of those massive Gamucci disposables, which seem to have a pretty high nic content. Sometimes I take a few hits off one of those things and then feel a bit gorked out -- plenty o' "stuff" in there. Anyway, I brought it thinking that maybe, just maybe, I could substitute going to the car and dragging on the Gamucci for the "I need a real cigarette right now" urge. The urge hit. I went to the car. Well ... huh. Interesting. It kind of worked. Too bad those things are so expensive. They claim they'll last the equivalent of 40 cigarettes. They cost noticeably more than 2 packs of smokes. Even though they're really large, more like a cigar than a cigarette, it seems unlikely to me they'll last so long. But I don't know yet.

The cost aside, they might be worth having for those bad moments. Cuz, shame on me, I was actually tempted to go buy some cigarettes -- something I haven't done for the last 3 months or so. I've stopped wanting to have a real smoke just at the moment.

It's nothing short of astonishing that someone who smoked as long as I did would have gone through the day with only two cigarettes so far. And my lungs are beginning to feel clearer than they have been in I-can't-remember-when. I can scarcely believe it...
 

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nicotine in its natural form is in a whole lot of plants, foods we eat, etc., and besides, people are basically, though maybe not literally, addicted to caffeine and to diet sodas and what have you. Not to mention alcohol. So there, to them.

I suspect most smokers are aware that the holier-than-thou approach taken by some people about smoking has everything to do with a particular kind of psychopathology and nothing to do with health. Maybe "psychopathology" is too strong a word, but there is a very obvious mind-set -- sometimes, a Puritanical one -- at work there....as with people who pass by smokers and then (all the while looking downright smug) go into a theatrical "coughing fit" to demonstrate their disapproval. This strikes them as remarkably clever, and clearly demonstrates how they occupy some higher ethical or moral or whatever plane than the smoker does. It's childish, but it looks like adulthood to them... and on seeing that behavior, I'm thinking: "There's probably some little...thing...you do that you don't tell anyone else about, isn't there? What would your Puritan forebears think of the real you?"

If those other things you mentioned aren't literal addictions (alcohol excepted), they are certainly things to which people are habituated -- and the only person with no such habits is some ascetic living in a cave somewhere. Or possibly in some toney condo in Berkeley or Ann Arbor. :)

This is an upbeat, positive place, not a den of suffering!!
It's pretty upbeat, all right. Despite problems with the occasional bad-tasting e-cig (due mostly to breaking in new atomizers, from what little I know so far), over and over I see positive experiences from using the e-cigs -- just as mine are.

That's why this is so doable for me, for the first time, to quit analogs using e-cigs.
Yep. Same here.
 

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It's pretty upbeat, all right. Despite problems with the occasional bad-tasting e-cig (due mostly to breaking in new atomizers, from what little I know so far)
I have come to the conclusion that most of my bad taste experiences are from low juice level at the top of my cartridges.
That is clearly a wicking issue, and it certainly seems to cause all of my nasty plastic taste issues.

I really want to look into what it would take to make the best wicking experience.
I want my juice to wick right up ASAP after my last drag.

This seems to be an elusive goal, but I haven't even started researching yet.

The straw modifcation seems to work for many.
But I don't think I want to struggle with making sure there is an air pocket at the bottom.

So far my straw modification is not doing any better than normal refilling with a syringe.
But the elusive goal I seek has more to do with wicking than refilling.

With that said, I'm pretty sure I don't have an air pocket down there.
Mostly because I can't imagine how I would even try to make sure there is one.

I haven't seem much regarding mods in the way of increasing wicking performance.
Well, other than the straw modification of course.

I may enlist some physics people to help me find the right answer.
Those guys have really large brains.
 

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Just got NJOY from Costco. Frustrated cause I feel I could suck on the darn thing all day and just get a headache. No nicotine buzz. Strongest cart is 18 mg. How do you get 36 mg and what is straw mod?

To get 36mg you need to buy bottled e-liquid. I'd check out the e-liquid review forum to find some you might like: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-liquid-reviews/

And here is a link to the thread describing the straw mod. Many people swear by it. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tips-tricks/11421-cart-mod-better-refilling.html

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I have come to the conclusion that most of my bad taste experiences are from low juice level at the top of my cartridges.
That is clearly a wicking issue, and it certainly seems to cause all of my nasty plastic taste issues.

I really want to look into what it would take to make the best wicking experience.
I want my juice to wick right up ASAP after my last drag.

This seems to be an elusive goal, but I haven't even started researching yet.

The straw modifcation seems to work for many.
But I don't think I want to struggle with making sure there is an air pocket at the bottom.

So far my straw modification is not doing any better than normal refilling with a syringe.
But the elusive goal I seek has more to do with wicking than refilling.

With that said, I'm pretty sure I don't have an air pocket down there.
Mostly because I can't imagine how I would even try to make sure there is one.

I haven't seem much regarding mods in the way of increasing wicking performance.
Well, other than the straw modification of course.

I may enlist some physics people to help me find the right answer.
Those guys have really large brains.
just FYI the straw mod really improves wicking in my 510. There is a thousand ways to fill a cart. The best wicking option is to run 2 vape's at a time so 1 can wick. It also gives the option of a low nic for hammering on and a high nic for the big hit...............
 

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I have come to the conclusion that most of my bad taste experiences are from low juice level at the top of my cartridges.
That is clearly a wicking issue, and it certainly seems to cause all of my nasty plastic taste issues.
When the taste has been bad for me it's almost always been a burned sort of flavor. I (carefully) put a drop onto the atomizer, make sure the cart is filled but not overfilled, and try again. This has usually worked pretty well.

The straw modifcation seems to work for many.
But I don't think I want to struggle with making sure there is an air pocket at the bottom.
I haven't tried that yet. So many tests, so little time.

So far my straw modification is not doing any better than normal refilling with a syringe.
Now I got into some trouble doing that incorrectly. I somehow managed to get juice back up into the 801's mouthpiece and then I kept getting the straight stuff in my mouth. Ugh.

But that's happening with just this one 801 atomizer+mouthpiece combo. Strange. It keeps happening...

I may enlist some physics people to help me find the right answer.
Those guys have really large brains.
Yeah, but can they vape? :)
 

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I was having a conversation with someone who said she was either a smoker or a non smoker. I'll always be a smoker whether or not I'm smoking. I have always enjoyed my cigarettes. I just didn't like that they were not healthy for me,or anyone else around me,and I did not like how I was made to feel,by others,because I smoke. I have had people ask me if I am trying to quit, I'm not. I want my cake and eat it too!

I still smoke a cigarette every now and then and I am trying to cut my Nicotine intake by cutting my juice with VG.(Because I tend to hit it alot) But I the reason I got my e-cig is because I wanted to continue to smoke,in a healthier way

I know what you mean, peech. We are all smokers here, whether we are "smoking" or not. Vaping is such an awesome answer to our dilemma, some of us -- feeling the need to quit but loving smoking too much.

Kind of like I'm still a drinker, though no alcohol for 25 years. Now it's espresso! But I recognize I'm still a drinker -- I always have a drink of something or other by me.

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That's what I do as well.

When I want to have a smoke, I take my 510 outside like I would a cigarette.
It's only been a week, but it's certainly working so far.

I also liked to smoke in the car on long drives, and had to roll down the windows so my wife wouldn't suffer quite as much. Driving through the desert on the way to Las Vegas with the air conditioner on, well, that really posed a problem. And as you can imagine, there were plenty of other times my wife didn't want her hair getting all messed up just so I could light up.

Yesterday we had a long drive through 100 degree temperatures.
I pulled out my 510 and took a few puffs with the windows all rolled up instead of down.
My wife said she couldn't even smell it.

This is very cool for you. Though I still am smoking analogs a few a day, I have not smoked in my car at all since I got my e-cigs. It's perfect for that! I haven't taken a long driving trip yet though. But I'm sure it will be fine.

By the way, I'm in San Diego, too. Not an easy place to be a smoker, huh?

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Thanks everyone for sharing your stories and advice! It has been encouraging and helpful for me to hear different tips, and also see that I'm not alone in having to phase out analogues gradually. Over the past couple days I've been smoking fewer cigs, and finding that I can satisfy my cravings with my PV. I'm looking forward to the day that I fully realize that I no longer need analogues at all.

Good luck everyone! :)

Good luck to YOU!!

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I was approaching my 40th b-day on June 1st and had been determined to quit for months. Had been phychologically stoking myself up for that day and quitting forever. About a week before someone outside on a smoke break asked about e-cigs. I hadn't heard of them but went home and researched. Found this forum, did my research and bought a couple kits - one for me and one for my mom.

Got the kits on 5/27. Hated it but kept it up. On 5/30 I thought, do or die time, I will quit. So me and my mom smoked our last analogs and quit. I struggled for a couple days, but I already had the mindset I would not smoke again so didn't look back.

If I hadn't heard of PVs and gotten one before 6/1 I don't know if I could have done it. But thanks to PVs, and everyone here on the forum, I didn't have to do it the hard way. And for that I am grateful!!! But my mindset was crucial. I wanted to quit.

Good luck all!
 

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Some people seem to give 'em up at once. I'm not doing that...did 4 today so far (6 yesterday, down from 22-25 per day). We went to dinner with a couple of smokers and when we were done and outside the restaurant, of course they lit up. I took out the 510. The cigarette smoke should have made me gag, but (sigh) it actually smelled good and when I went home...sigh again...I made one with the injector machine and smoked it. It tasted pretty awful, but I got most of the way through it. What is this habit, anyway? I thought. Then something struck me: part of it -- as dumb as this sounds -- seemed to be that smoking the cigarette is a kind of break. It has a beginning, a middle, and an end (just like the cigarette itself as it gets smoked down). Then, the "session" is over. I wondered if that wasn't part of the appeal (why it would be, I can't imagine). With the e-cig, I can just puff away at my desk -- there's no "break" in it. Aw, who knows...anyway, there must be a lot of habitual behavior in smoking having nothing to do with the nicotine craving itself.

That moment outside the restaurant was a good illustration that people don't make a move cigarette-wise until they're good and ready. I tried to get the one guy interested in the e-cig idea (his wife had said to me earlier in the day that she's a bit concerned about his regularly occurring cough) but he brushed it aside right away. Well then, I offered, I could show you those tar-reducing filters -- nope, he brushed that one off immediately also. Too bad -- but I understood his not wanting to think about it. He will when he's had enough, and not before.

Mikea, I know exactly what you mean about smoking being a "break." That's what I felt from the very beginning of trying vaping. I wondered how I would adjust to not having those breaks, but just vaping whenever I wanted to. As opposed to a five-minute ritual. And besides a break, smoking is like a timekeeper: "I'll have one cig then go."

So, all these things we have to unhabituate ourselves from. This is good. As we get into the vaping habit, then the old habitual stuff from smoking will fall away. I think it's certainly the least painful way of quitting smoking.

I know what you mean also about trying to get other smokers interested. I have shown everyone in my building at work who smokes, those who I see outside on our smoke breaks. I'm so excited about it, and give them a very fun demonstration and pep talk about it. Most have thought it very cool, but so far, not one of them has made the move and actually done it, not that I know of yet.

This may seem simplistic, but I wonder if some of these people think e-cigs cost too much. People who buy cigs by the pack may think that. People like me, paying $60 for my last carton of cigs, felt like $60 for an e-cig starter kit is just fine.

I feel fortunate, that for whatever reasons, finding out about e-cigs when I did was just right. I was absolutely ready to do it.

Though now, after three weeks, I'm still finishing that damn carton of smokes I had bought just before I ordered my e-cigs. And since I'm smoking fewer a day, it's lasting me a long time. At the very beginning, I thought maybe I'd get right into vaping and throw that carton away! ($60 be damned.) But it wasn't like that.

So I'm nearing the point where I won't have any cigs...and I hope I don't decide to buy just one more pack or whatever. Because so far, I've relied on both analogs and e-cigs; I've not had a day yet without an analog.

And Mikea, I liked your recent newbie-info thing you did in another thread, what you've learned. All the info here for newbies is invaluable!

I could not do this without this forum. Or I should say, it definitely helps me stay on course and happy about doing this.

Well, carry on, friends!

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These days almost nobody I know smokes cigarettes. So friends' reactions range from vaguely amused (the e-cig seems like kind of a toy or gimmick, I guess) to "attaboy!" Actually so far all of them have been encouraging. Seeing someone who's smoked for a long time cut down to some fraction of his former amount strikes them as a good thing. One guy (who never smoked) is flat-out amazed. "Unbelievable," he keeps saying when he sees the e-cig in action.

I'm so glad your experiences have been encouraging!

My best friend, like a sister to me, has been begging me to quit smoking for over a year now (she was a smoker until about 7 years ago). So I finally quit and tell her I'm vaping and now all she does is nag me to quit vaping b/c we don't know what's in there, it might be bad for me, etc.

So I ask her if she wants me to go back to analogs. I just want her to acknowledge my success for once. I hate having to dole out all the usual "it can't be as bad for me as smoking" arguments. It's old already. :mad:

Glad you all are here, what would I do without all the support??? :thumb:
 

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Such is true with any addiction, be it drugs, or alcohol, or nicotine... You have to want to stop for yourself, and for most people, that moment doesn't come until they've had enough... If it comes at all.

Has anybody encountered any resentment from friends who have successfully quit smoking by other methods? No one has come right out and expressed it to me outright, but I could sense from a couple of people that they're thinking: "Damn! I had to quit the hard way!"

How about negativity from people who still smoke analogs? Since I started vaping, I've found that most smokers I know have been pretty interested in learning about e-cigs... but I've also had a couple of smokers roll their eyes, or make mildly derogatory comments... Saturday night, I was talking to a few of my friends about my 510, when this one woman (I don't know her very well) seemed to have a problem with the fact that the juice comes in different flavors... (She was smoking some generic, discount brand, like "USA Gold" or something, so I guess she has something against flavor in general) then she walked away from the conversation as if she couldn't tolerate another minute of it! Shaking her head, and muttering something under her breath with intense disapproval... Everybody turned back to me, and I just shrugged and said: "I dunno about her, but I like the different flavors...."

Very interesting, Mossman! That is fascinating, that response from that woman. I have yet to encounter odd reactions from smokers.

But also, what you said about people who've already quit, yes, I have gotten that. In fact, when I told my sister (who quit about five years ago), I was the one who brought it up. I said to her, I know I won't have it as hard as you did. (She quit about ten times before finally succeeding.) But she is very supportive of my doing this. She assumes of course that eventually I would quit vaping, too. Hmm... That's a bridge I'm going to cross much later -- not even contemplating it right now. However, going to zero nicotine, that is definitely in my plans. (I've been trying flavors -- find what I like best, and get it in zero nic.)

Okay, but what about this, something else I wondered about when I first heard of e-cigs. I wondered if people who don't smoke but would kind of like to if it weren't bad for you...if they would get on the e-cig thing. Well, my very good friend who quit years ago for immediate health reasons, she wants to try e-cigs. She loves the idea of vaping at the casinos in Las Vegas, for instance. And she believes nicotine is a nice brain-food.

Speaking of which, as a smoker, I've always appreciated Las Vegas. I love the souvenir I got one time, a shot glass with lighter: "Las Vegas -- where smoking is not a crime." Now I look forward to going and vaping as I play. Though I'll probably hate all the cigarette smoke!

Sorry, I can tend to wander off topic -- not that this thread is a very specific topic. But just to say I'm aware of straying...

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I got my RN4081 a week before my first vacation alone with my new girlfriend--my i-cant-stand-the-smell-of-smoke girlfriend. I intended it to be like an alternative for when I was out with her or at family gatherings. Three days after I started using it, I smoked my last analog. That was three months ago.

You rock! Good for you.

At the least, knowing you have an alternative, as you said, for certain social situations, is a totally wonderful thing about e-cigs. But the actual thing of quitting analogs altogether is just incredibly wonderful.

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The anti-smokers and the "denormalization" campaign has made me want to smoke more not less. It's just the way I am. Other than that, I was intrigued by the concept of electronic cigarettes and by the potential they have for flouting smoking bans (IMO the most despicable campaign in modern history) so I bought one. After awhile, I came to like them and found myself smoking way less. My concern now is that I keep looking for something new, something better and worry that once the novelty wears off; I may not be as intrigued. But, for now, I am enjoying both the e cig and a greatly reduced cigarette habit. I use the e cig for all of the cigarettes I used to smoke daily simply because it was "time" for one. Amazingly, I only really want a cigarette about three times per day. If I were to force myself to quit smoking, I know that I would rebel against myself LOL and go back to my old habits. This way works for me. I know that for some the goal is to entirely quit, and I applaud them. It's just not for me.

This is cool, sherid. I sure am with you on this one, the morals-police regarding smoking. I remember when you could smoke in a grocery store even! Well, I'm not against smoking inside public buildings...but after that, that's when it started going too far. As I watched city after city enact the bans in restaurants...and then bars, damn. But, now to have these bans in outdoor places all over, even some cities banning them everywhere in public. And maybe soon, in your own car. Maybe in your own home, etc., etc.

And especially when it isn't truly about health. I am one of the healthier people I know, non-smokers included. Sure, there is an uncertain future healthwise, but I think all the junk food and sedentary lifestyle is wreaking as much or more havoc on our general state of health. And alcohol, too. One doesn't smoke too many cigarettes and go out and kill people on the freeway or beat their spouse. (I'm a sober alcoholic, but honestly, I am not down on anyone for drinking. Unless of course they kill people, etc.)

Well, I shouldn't go on about this, not right now, here. Preaching to the choir. It's something like going back to some "puritan" ethics or something, where "pleasures" aren't really considered a human imperative. Or as Mary Kay has talked about, the "nanny state." We'll tell you what is good for you.

But back to you, I am LOL'ing at your rebelling against yourself about becoming a non-smoker. I like smokers; I'm not trying to remove myself from being one of them. (Just like your signature says.)

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I guess I was an accidental quitter of sorts. I'd been wanting to try and quit altogether, again, for the millionth time and just couldn't get in to the gum, mints, patch routine. Started 'researching' the whole ecig thing and decided to try the Red Dragon solution. Well, by the second day, I felt SO much better and my original analogs tasted SO bad and harsh that I just quit them - and or course, bought and geared up on my ecig supply. That was really it ... end of story ... haven't gone analog since.

I do love hearing these stories! And nubee, I love your "Borg stick" !!

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I just got a red dragon last Friday. I got the 11mg "medium" "marlboro" flavor. For the most part I like it a lot. I don't get the same feeling as with a regular cig but I also don't get ashes on me, I don't go crazy looking for a lighter and I'm not washing my hands, spraying body and spray and popping a mint every time I want to hug/kiss my kids.

I am still having cravings though which is a little weird to me. I think I'm getting sufficient nicotine and I'm keeping up with my normal smoking places/routines and not really varying, just replacing real smokes with the red dragon. What I am noticing though is wanting it less and less. Also, when I am having an analog I'm beginning to feel like gagging at the taste! I'm down from 15-20 smokes a day to maybe 5-6 and today I think it'll be far less then even that. I would eventually like to quit it all at some point but if I never do and only vape I'm still feeling better about the choice for my health, my wallet and my sanity (listening to my husband tell me I stink etc).

I am hopeful that I can ditch the analogs all together. I haven't bought any since Friday, had half a pack left at that point (finished them Sat night) and now I have an old stale pack of American Spirit smokes in my purse and so far just one this a.m.

I recently lost 90 pounds and I'm worried about weight gain which you typically see when you stop smoking. Anyone who's vaping now see that happen?

BTW...I think I may even give up the tobacco flavored cartridges. I got a free cherry one with my starter kit and I have to say.......pretty yummy!!!!

Good luck to all of you who are trying to quit and for those who just like to smoke and have no desire to quit what an awesome way to smoke "responsibly!"

I'll keep on here looking for different things to try and here's hoping I'm off analogs for good very soon!

Congratulations, KC, on losing all that weight! Of course, weight gain has always been a dreaded or at least undesirable effect of quitting smoking. But it doesn't seem like that's an issue with e-cigs. I would like to hear from others about that also. Maybe start a separate thread? But no one here has mentioned it, since I've been here, not that I've read every post.

The last time I quit for any length of time (three months) I most definitely replaced it with popping things in my mouth. I knew I was doing it, and my pants kept getting tighter, but I didn't stop myself. Then I started smoking again...

I'm glad you decided to try flavor liquids. I think that's a good thing, to get away from the tobacco ones. On the other hand, I think the tobacco flavors are fine, too! Whatever works for you. Myself, I have menthol, coffee, chocolate and flavorless. I actually even like the flavorless.

Anyway, I really like your "smoke responsibly" !! I hadn't thought of saying that nor heard it said before. Very cool! :cool:

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Yes, vaping and smoking are not the same thing. In my view vaping is better. I was one of those lucky souls who just took to it like a duck to water and found out that it had been the nicotine I'd been after all along. It's cleaner, arguably cheaper once you have the kit you like, and POSSIBLY healthier - though the jury is still out on that one. I do like the fact that I feel so much healthier and am no longer short of breath. I love the fact that my tongue no longer looks like a petri dish with some vile fungus growing on it. I don't smell any more - well, maybe a bit, but that smell is ME, not that lovely ashtray fragrance that we all adore. So -the transition off of analogs was a doddle for me because I really liked vaping from the get-go (including all the fiddling about with carts and stuff. That fiddling is really therapeutic imho). :)

E-pipeman, do you smoke an e-pipe then? I'm curious how that is. (Plus I'm looking for a friend at what good e-cigar he can get.)

Well, I'm glad for your duck-to-water thing :) And I also totally agree that all the fiddling is therapeutic. At first I didn't know if I liked that idea, that you have to mess with all this stuff, keep everything going. But I totally like it also.

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I was approaching my 40th b-day on June 1st and had been determined to quit for months. Had been phychologically stoking myself up for that day and quitting forever. About a week before someone outside on a smoke break asked about e-cigs. I hadn't heard of them but went home and researched. Found this forum, did my research and bought a couple kits - one for me and one for my mom.

Got the kits on 5/27. Hated it but kept it up. On 5/30 I thought, do or die time, I will quit. So me and my mom smoked our last analogs and quit. I struggled for a couple days, but I already had the mindset I would not smoke again so didn't look back.

If I hadn't heard of PVs and gotten one before 6/1 I don't know if I could have done it. But thanks to PVs, and everyone here on the forum, I didn't have to do it the hard way. And for that I am grateful!!! But my mindset was crucial. I wanted to quit.

Good luck all!

Great job, shivadance. It must feel really good being off analogues. The right mindset can go a long way towards success... I'm wondering if I just don't want to quit badly enough yet, and that's why I'm still smoking analogues.

I remember once saying to a friend, when I was still a casual smoker, "I hope I never become addicted, because I never want to quit." And here I am, years later, addicted, and thinking about how I need to quit. There is just something about a burning cigarette that makes it hard to give up.

But again, if I had the right mindset, I'm sure I could make it happen. Perhaps the longer I vape, the more I'll see analogues for the disgusting things that they are, and want to quit.
 
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