What name do you like the most out of these 2

[tims]

Hello All.....

I own *eVapin.com* and *AltSmokes.com*

I like eVapin as a name best, to me AltSmokes is more a all around site name. Then again I guess they both work, and just may come down to what one sounds the best.

And both sound good and are easy to remember, eVapin sounds like a HQ name to me. While Altsmokes is more a catch all name, but I would love to hear thoughts on them from others

 

[bluewraith]

AltSmoke - e-cigarette-forum.com • The place for electronic cigarette reviews, news and chat

Might run into trademark issues with altsmokes.

 

[chc]

isn't there a supplier called altsmoke.com already?

 

[kase]

Or confusion.

 

[chc]

too slow lol

 

[kase]

I noticed.

 

[j0ker]

Depends? This for online store or info.....or what?

 

[tims]

I'll step lightly on this one, but joker you seem to got a good handle on it, by just asking what it's for and I'll answer it.

The domain name I think is a pretty ( generic ) one, I have done a online trade mark search and found none. A ( generic ) name is like autos.com, everyone knows what the site would have there. It's a ( generic ) word, and it's tell you what is at the site. And names found to be ( generic ), can not be trade marked then.

I'll will be very clear here and if there is a trade mark, I would not use the domain name for what the trade mark is for. Joker asked it right, by asking what do I want to use it for.

As I said before I see it as a catch all domain name, very ( generic ) and usable for most anything esmoking, I would likely use it for info, review and/or forum site, or some thing along them lines at this point.

 

[Abe]

Is altsmoker a trade mark? Costs a few bob getting a trade mark I think.

 

[tims]

I think it's to ( generic ) of a name as well, I did do a online trade mark search and found none.

 

[maf2k8]

Am i the only one confused here???? lmao

 

[Thyestean]

Am i the only one confused here???? lmao

I was thrown for a minute to when reading the OP. I think it should have said that he owns the domain names in order to avoid confusion.

 

[TaketheRedPill]

I think it's to ( generic ) of a name as well, I did do a online trade mark search and found none.

there are trademarks, and there are service marks. Trademarks, I believe, are for a specific product name (or expression associated with that product). Service marks, are mostly for specific company names. It is not expensive to obtain either, but they do require paperwork, that can be very picky picky picky. Trademarks are denoted with a small circled TM, service marks are circled SM. An online search may or may not show all TMs and SMs. TMs or SMs that are identical or very similar to another, existing business, are not permitted, example would be, altsmoke versus AltsmokeS. A businesses' existence is proved by an existing, working (transacting), website/webstore or actual storefront. A long-existing Altsmoke could have an actionable cause against a new altsmokeS, Alt-smoke, Alt-smokeS ( or any other substantially similar version), that was conducting essentially the same type of business, even if Altsmoke itself is not SM'ed.

I am not an attorney. You should consult an attorney before attempting to SM or TM any service/company/product name, especially if you have been made aware there may be a potential conflict.

TTRP

 

[reeds101]

The domain name you have (altsmokes) is up in July of this year, and didn't cost very much, and I don't think Rob at Altsmoke will buy the domain from you for a hefty price (not that I'm assuming you would hope he would,) so I would just count my losses and either use your other name or come up with something totally unique. IMO

 

[DinosaurVapor]

wait.... is it generic or not generic :lol;

 

[Connman]

I would likely use it for info, review and/or forum site, or some thing along them lines at this point.

I like eVapin as a name best for that. Use the other and as you see the confusion..

 

[tims]

I never said the domain name is for sale, and even if Altsmoke had a trade or service mark, I can still use my domain for some things.

He can not just take my name or sue for damages, it's a domain name and everyone signed a agreement, that Icann deals with these matters first.

Also a ( generic ) name can not be trade marked, and I think it is a generic, and as I said even if it's trade marked I can still use it for some things.

As for what I paid for the domain doesn't matter, nor have I tried to sell the domain at any point, I want to make that very clear and I will not just let it go.

If Altsmoke prove to me they have a trade or service mark, then I will build a info site at my domain, with a disclaimer as Icann rules, and rulings allow that kind of usage.

If they don't like that they signed a agreement, to take these matters through the Icann system, where a panel of their judges will rule on it.

And as for trade and service marks, *alternasmokes.com* and I'm sure others would very well fall with in that. That is why I think it is a ( generic ) name, and can not be trade or serviced marked, and if it is would not be inforce able.

 

[reeds101]

Whoa...I didn't mean to step on anyones toes.

The domain name you have (altsmokes) is up in July of this year, and didn't cost very much, and I don't think Rob at Altsmoke will buy the domain from you for a hefty price (not that I'm assuming you would hope he would,) so I would just count my losses and either use your other name or come up with something totally unique. IMO

I was just trying to say that it is almost up, and instead of renewing it and creating alot of confusion and hassles to just change it to something else.

 

[tims]

reeds101 I do under stand, what you was saying and it was fine to say it.....

But I needed to be clear about this all, at some point I may want to sell ecigs goods. And I would not try to step on any ones trade or service marks, and at the same time I want to insure, no one steps on my rights as a domain owner.

I've been domaining for a long time now, my record clearly shows I own Alt domains, before Altsmoke was regged even I owned these domains.

*Altbb.com*, *Altbbs.com*

*Altweb.mobi*, *Classifiedbb.com*, *Classifiedbbs.com

Alt = alternative or alternate

bbs = Bulletin Board System or just bb = Bulletin Board

Alt.bbs is what the old internet was called, it was a bulletin board system first. But big biz had control of many things on it, so was born the peoples Alt.bbs and it took off from there.

And today it's still got it's history from it, this forum is really a bbs but the script is called a bb Bulletin Board, most people only know it as a forum anymore.

This is why I own Altbb and Altbbs, I do research on some domains. And Some I build sites on them, and have sold a few domains as well. If you think about it some, Alt and smoke is both very ( generic ) words, everyone knows what they mean and both together, tells you what is going to be at the site.

 

[Abe]

I am not an attorney. You should consult an attorney before attempting to SM or TM any service/company/product name, especially if you have been made aware there may be a potential conflict.

That's the bit that starts to cost money. Sure, you can go for a trademark yourself but there's a lot of work. Work vs money. Hum, I'd rather sleep tbh.