What was your motivation...some food for thought...

[vaporize me]

It seems to me that most people started vaping to rid themselves from analogs. It is a valid argument that vaping is safer than the thousands of harmful chemicals found in traditional cigs.

My question is...

1) Did you start vaping to quit traditional cigs?
I'm sure most will reply YES.

2) Do you ever plan to stop vaping once that is accomplished?
I'm sure most will reply NO.

It just seems to me that people will get addicted to vaping and forget the reason why they started to in the first place. To stop a bad habit by forming a new one, is that advisable?

3) What happens if there is a ban?
I'm speculating that most will return to analogs. Seems to totally
defeat it's original purpose.

Do you vape all day with a lower nic or do you vape a higher nic to satisfy your urges and keep the vaping to a minimum?

Do you start with a higher, then go to a lower and eventually go to 0 nic to ween yourself off of nic?

If everybody eventually lowered their nic intake to 0.. It would seem like a much better formula to rid ourselves PERMANANTLY from those nasty analogs...ban or no ban!!!

Just some food for thought...

 

[cosican]

It seems to me that most people started vaping to rid themselves from analogs. It is a valid argument that vaping is safer than the thousands of harmful chemicals found in traditional cigs.

My question is...

1) Did you start vaping to quit traditional cigs?
I'm sure most will reply YES.

2) Do you ever plan to stop vaping once that is accomplished?
I'm sure most will reply NO.

It just seems to me that people will get addicted to vaping and forget the reason why they started to in the first place. To stop a bad habit by forming a new one, is that advisable?

3) What happens if there is a ban?
I'm speculating that most will return to analogs. Seems to totally
defeat it's original purpose.

Do you vape all day with a lower nic or do you vape a higher nic to satisfy your urges and keep the vaping to a minimum?

Do you start with a higher, then go to a lower and eventually go to 0 nic to ween yourself off of nic?

If everybody eventually lowered their nic intake to 0.. It would seem like a much better formula to rid ourselves PERMANANTLY from those nasty analogs...ban or no ban!!!

Just some food for thought...

I have had enough REDBULL this am to provide my thought

1) yes I stopped analogs with all the help from Vaping
2) I WILL NEVER EVER STOP VAPING EVER
3) I am prepared for a ban, if it comes, by owning everything out there
I have posted this before, but I have a BOMB SHELTER MENTALITY
stockpile everything, buy whatever you can afford and in my case, cannot afford, I have made sure that I have discovered what works for me, in regards to the right ecig and the suppliers
I WILL NEVER GO BACK TO ANALOGS
4) I DO VAPE ALL DAY start with 36mg and end with 36 mg, I am begging suppliers to develop a 72 mg, if possible

My attitude is, even if there is some type of ban!!! and I just do not see it, not here is the USA, it will always be available

Look you can buy anything in the world on the net
Kids buy pills and narcotics all day on the web, so ecigs will be a vape walk

 

[vaporize me]

I, like most people here, started to stock pile supplies. Being new to this, I started thinking about other e-cigs and the such. Then it dawned on me last night. What if there was a ban and I'm still addicted to nic? Made me think. For me, I am going to try to ween myself off of nic and stay analog free, regardless.

It is true that you can get most anything that you want on the net, this I am sure of. I started this hobby(?) with a goal in mind and I just don't want to loose focus.

I just wanted to ask these questions to find out other peoples motivations and to give everybody something to think about.

 

[agga40s]

You're pretty much right, at least in my case. I started vaping to quit traditional cigarettes, but not to stop "smoking." When the new tax was added to cigarettes, I started looking for an alternative and a friend told me about e-cigs. I don't intend to stop vaping as long as I can get them - even if I can only get 0 nic juice.

If I could afford it, I would stockpile like many are doing. But I'm hoping cosican is right and I'll still be able to get them online, even in the case of a ban.

For 40+ years, I loved to smoke and now I love to vape. We all have our vices, I guess that's mine. I am an addict, and I pray (seriously!) that they don't take e-cigs away from me. You've made a good point, and I don't think they're particularly good at getting people off nicotine unless they REALLY want to, but the same can be said for patches, etc. This way, at least I'm not getting all that other crap that's in traditional cigs, plus I'm not stinking up my world. That's good enough for me.

 

[Drewsworld]

Im curious to see the response to this thread..Oddly enough, the people currently observing Ecigs as we speak are also intrested in these questions...In fact I am currently corresponding with another Phd to create a survey and possibly posting on this site and others to get a response..We will also be looking for people who are willing to do quanitive nicotine level-blood tests for preliminary clinical surveys..It should be intresting and good for the industry

 

[vaporize me]

agga, like yourself, I started seriously looking into e-cigs after the new tax on cigs were applied.

I looked into it a bit about a year ago but there wasn't many alternatives to e-cigs as there are today.

At that time, I could only find the Gamucci and I was still up in the air about its safety, cartridge/juice availability and costs.

Now it seems to be a whole different ball game. So many choices...it can make a newb's head spin. Thank goodness for this forum.

I'm only afraid what would happen if the products we enjoy/are addicted to gets banned.

But, paraphrasing cosican, "where there is a will there is a way". Thank GOD for the internet.

 

[Skad]

I did start vaping to quit analogs, and I was very successful with that.

While I probably will cut my vaping down as time goes on, I doubt I'll ever stop entirely. I'm currently vaping 18 during the day, and cutting down to 14 or less at night, as I puff more at night then I do during the day. I plan on cutting my nicotine down slowly over time.

As to the ban, you can ask the pot smokers how well our government banning things actually works. Or the Cuban cigar smokers. Or the pill takers.

 

[vaporize me]

Here's one for ya...

Reading skad's reply got me to thinking about pot smokers and the e-cig.

If somebody could come up with marijuana tasting juice to help the pot addicts get off the stuff... The taste without the buzz. Maybe the FDA would change their mind about the whole e-cig controversy...helping the world rid its marijuana "addiction" problem. Sounds like a real winner to me. Probably very profitable also. Just a thought...

 

[Tilly]

I also tried e-cigs due to excessive taxes, such as Gov ("I don't want to be re-elected ") Perdue's sin tax.

 

[PiP]

i started looking into vaping to quit analogs. i will eventually work down to 0 nic juice and just do it for a social environment

 

[Elendil]

We currently cannot stop the influx of illegal aliens, drugs, foreign made analogs, guns, or terrorists into this country. I doubt seriously that the supplies of ecig materials will be stopped even if a "ban" is declared............

 

[wyzardd]

I started vaping because I'm a gadget freak. Never really had any intention of quitting analogs, just thought the device looked cool and might help during long trips with the family since I won't smoke around my kids.

If they manage to shut down supplies, I'll go back to analogs in a New York minute. I'll be angry and broke...

 

[gabriellyon]

I tried Vaping after a number of less than successful attempts at giving up my pipe. In times of stress and boredom all to often I found myself reaching for Captain black and a lighter. The vaping helped me to cut out the nicotine cravings and lower my amount slowly (I'm at about 11mg now). Eventually I want to find some type of a healthy habit to replace my desire to smoke. So yes eventually I see myself even giving up vaping I suppose. At least vaping has allowed me to actually see success and take it at a pace that I do not backslide on. If there is a ban I believe I will have the means to get enough supplies to see me to the end of my program, I hope. I really only try to vape when I would normally reach for a pipe and every day I try to do it a little bit less often. Hope this helps.

 

[badkat]

I was really surprised at how much I enjoyed vaping once I got beyond the original yak urine taste and starting mixing my own. I never want to quit nicotine but it sure is good to get away from the carcinogens in tobacco products. Recently I considered if there's a ban I might wean myself off vaping, but I'd only look silly sucking my thumb, so I'll probably lay around with a nicotine drip in my arm and a dead vaporizer in my face if the neonazi's take the ecigs away.

 

[Momof3]

I was going on a big family trip of mostly militant non-smoking adults and equal numbers of children. Non-smoking flights, followed with non-smoking rental cars, to non-smoking accommodations with days filled to the brim of visiting mostly non-smoking/not smoking friendly attractions. I didn't want anyone to get hurt and I wanted to be able to somewhat enjoy the trip, so I bought my first e-cig. Worked out well.

Got home, winter was all but here (I smoked outside) and I'd already paid for the stuff, so kept vaping. Had been out of town and misplaced my penstyle somewhere between unloading the car and unpacking. It was the only e-cig I had, so I bought a couple packs and ended up back on analogs for about 6wks.

My penstyle turned up about 1mnth after back on analogs, but I just cleaned, charged and used at home when it was really cold out. Then my kids started complaining. They wanted me back on the e-cig full-time. So I went back full-time, but didn't care for toting the pen around and wanted something smaller. My Gma, longtime smoker expressed interest but only in something more analog size. Was getting low on juice, so bought a Pilot kit with more juice and haven't looked back since.

I've now got quite a stash set back in case of a ban. I figure so long as there are manufacturers, things will still get in. Risk I'm willing to take and have enough supplies that I wouldn't freak about losing occasional small order to customs. Would be ticked for sure, but wouldn't stop my vaping.

I mostly vape 16mg-18mg throughout the day. 2-3mls/day. Most in early AM, late PM, constant when I drive. Recently I've been buying 36mg to cut so I could build my stash quicker for less money. Not my preference, but got me to a comfort zone faster.

I've only thought of reducing nic in the context of what if I can't get it. If the manufacturers go, and or I couldn't get liquid, I've laid in enough I think to give me 2-3yrs leeway to gradually reduce my nic to 0 nic. I would most likely continue with the 0 nic. If I can't eliminate the nic and no juice or equipment available, well I'd go back to the analogs.

I'm a smoker, I figure I always will be, I enjoy it. I never viewed e-cigs for myself as a cessation device. More of a compromise between myself and my family that makes everyone happy as I've found devices and juices that satisfy me.

 

[Nick O'Teen]

1) Did you start vaping to quit traditional cigs?

Nope. I wasn't even planning to cut down - I just thought it looked like a fun gadget, and might help me keep nic'd up in no smoking environments (particularly at work - I work in a petrol station, so smoking a few feet away from 120,000 litres of highly inflammable liquid is rather frowned on )

2) Do you ever plan to stop vaping once that is accomplished?

I'm gonna vape til I die.

It just seems to me that people will get addicted to vaping and forget the reason why they started to in the first place. To stop a bad habit by forming a new one, is that advisable?

I love my addiction, and was happy as an analog pipe-smoker. Probably not "advisable", but my lungs - my choice.

3) What happens if there is a ban?
I'm speculating that most will return to analogs. Seems to totally
defeat it's original purpose.

I'll press my own tobacco juice, and rely on the Chinese suppliers I import from to label hardware imports vaguely/misleadingly. If I can't work it that way, and I can't mod my own from toys and stuff, I'll make a crack-pipe to vape homebrew from - they're not going to ban pyrex or lighters
It tastes better than smoking - that's my sole reason for vaping. If they discovered tomorrow that it's even more harmful (which obviously they're not,) I'd still vape.

Do you vape all day with a lower nic or do you vape a higher nic to satisfy your urges and keep the vaping to a minimum?

I vape all day at 36mg, except when I'm experimenting with flavours I only have at lower strengths.

Do you start with a higher, then go to a lower and eventually go to 0 nic to ween yourself off of nic?

If everybody eventually lowered their nic intake to 0.. It would seem like a much better formula to rid ourselves PERMANANTLY from those nasty analogs...ban or no ban!!!

vaping no nic liquid seems like only smelling your food to save on thecalories. Hey, if it works for you, do it - but I feel like I was born to vape. I may have only just discovered it, but it was woven into my destiny, just waiting for me to happen upon it.

 

[fatman]

I started to vape to quit smoking. I have cut down nic and have not had a nic juice since back in February. I do not plan on quitting vaping - I love the whole act of smoking: the deep breaths, the excuse to go outside on a nice day, the break from routine, the whole thing. No other replacement device addresses the *culture* of smoking as a cessation tool the way these do. And make no mistake, the behavioral aspect is huge. I don't miss the nic, never did. I'm addicted to the throat hit and the behavior.

Without nic these devices are definitely safer than analogs. They are not completely safe, but then neither is walking through my front door each morning. Smoking is not the issue - cancer is. And if I can vape without a cancer risk, then I see no reason to stop. Ever.

I have stockpiled a year's worth of hardware and next month should be able to get all the juice I need to make it through a year long ban. But I suspect that my orders to eastmall, best ecig and ruyan will always be an option. They may be a crap shoot to ge through customs, but with judicious spreading of risk, even if I lose a couple shipments to customs, it will still be about 2/3 of the costs of analog for the same period (that assumes you treat your atomizers as disposable).

Eventually these will be legal unless we all start growing extra tongues out of our foreheads or something equally gross and/or dangerous. Someone will figure out how to make money after they pay for the FDA testing regimen. It is doable. But after that they will never be thsi cheap again because that research will have to be recouped. When that happens, the FDA will have to respect the right of only congress to legislate commerce regardless of what the anti-smoking groups come up with. They will not lie down, but will have to evolve as the market does. We all will.

 

[LuckySevens4U]

I wanted to quit analogs so bad for a few years now, nothing really worked for me. I started vaping to quit analogs. I'm taking it one day at a time and yes, if available, and we find out these are safe, I will probably cut down to like 4 mgs of nic to get throat hits and try to cut my vaping down someeday, but I'm not ready yet. I know if I can cut down the vaping and the nic and not make it such a "habit", but when I get the social urge to "smoke", I will always pull out my E cig and never an analog if I have to relapse.

 

[davecury]

Why quit if you can smoke without killing yourself ? If there weren't e-cigs. I would still be smoking "real" cigs. and not quit till I had "real" health problems. (maby) I smoked for 35 years and could not quit. I started for the same reasons many other people do. It releaves stress, depresion, and helps you focas. I keep smoking because I'm addacted. Plain and simple.

 

[vaporize me]

It's funny how the majority of people never plan to stop vaping...just as I suspected.

I too love to smoke, always have. But with the potential health issues associated with analogs and the constant rising costs, it seemed to me to be a no-brainer to switch to e-cigs.

I do, however, want to ween myself off my dependency to nic. Being a newb, that will be a work in progress.

I don't ever want to go back to analogs and will do whatever it takes to stay off of them. Vaping seems to be the best chance for me to do so.