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Pete54

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A PV exactly like the BB that uses "safer" batteries like the 750 mAh CR123 LiFepo4's. I love the size and feel of the BB and the button is the best of any PV I've tried. The SB is great and does use the CR123 batts but it is just too big to carry around (I use it at home only) and the button, while very good, is not as good as the button on the BB IMO.
As far as carts go, that is the PV's weak link right now. I use a mod that works pretty well for me but I would like to see a better designed unit that emptied every time and keeps the atty wet even at 6v.
There are several new american made juices out there that are mcuh better than the garbage from Dekang. I think we are heading in the right direction. I have yet to try yours but I will as soon as I use up the pile of juice I have now.
Just want to add that the 2 PV's that I've bought from you are excellent! They fire up every time and feel better in the hand than any others I own.
Thanks again! :)
 

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All of the above choices are important but more or less there's a known solution for each one of them.
-Battery life = use a mod with a big battery
-Throat hit = use higher nicotine juice
-More flavor = make your own juice and add more flavorings in.
-More vapor = use VG (or higher voltage)
-size = it's in proportion with the battery size
-carts = yes, need improvement

BUT most important : a CONSISTENT atomizer. The heart of the system. Something that would last. Something that would work properly right out of the box without problems, all the time.
 

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I'd like a SB made just for 5/6V so it would have a slightly smaller width & would make for less wiggle room with the RCR123a's, ie a strictly 6V SB or a cross between the SB & BB. With Carlos' amazing 7+ month atty with 510 port. I hate carts cuz I'm a 6V head but if there was a magical flawless HV cart that works like when you drip except without having to drip every few whacks, that would be cool too I suppose. I also think all mods should have double barrels since you could always leave only one plugged in making it the same as regular BUT you'd still have the option to go big if ya want. ;)
 

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Battery Life? Very important.

Throat Hit? Subjective, high nic is too harsh for me, SB at 6v nice mild hit at low nic strengths. Would love to replicate that kinda full 'mouth hit' cigs gave me.

Ease of Refilling Cartridges? Sure.
Longer Lasting Cartridges? A consistant long lasting cart that is easy to refill would be nice.

(an aside on carts... stopped using them completely. Pain to clean, refill, top up. I find dripping is like how I used my lighter with analogues. Pull out my little carry juice bottle, few drips, and bam my e-cig is 'lit' and you know when your e-cig is 'out' same as if you dragged down to the filter on a regular)

More Vapor? SB at 6v is more than enough.

Less Vapor? Ummm, no.

Better Flavor? Not an issue, too subjective.

Size? Smaller is better, portability is my ONLY issue with an SB.

Best thing about 6v I find that it comes closest to replicating an analogue: instant gratification. No primer puffs (though I do enjoy 'puffing' on my regular 510 like a pipe), no warming up the atty, just hit it and get a consistent experience everytime - like an analogue.
 

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A device like the SB, but made of SS and designed for rcr123s only so it could be made much smaller.

I love the button on the BB. I haven't tried the SB because of the size so I can't make a comparison there.

An option to bring the unloaded voltage down from 6.5v to around 5v would make it perfect. A solid resistor disc that could be inserted into the tube would work well and be reliable.
 

JKBonin

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I'm hoping to be able to get my order in for an SB this week. And as I said in another thread, here's what I would ask for...

A rock solid American:confused: made vaper monster that can go all day. Enter - the SB! I would love 3v batts that last as long as the 18650, but I would guess the technology isn't quite there yet.

Mostly, I would LOVE an atty specifically designed for dripping. Something I could drip 8, 10, hell 15 drips into and keep the monster SB drinking as much as it needs! I stopped the whole refilling and modding carts thing already too.

Thou shalt only drip and drip heavy for HV mods. 'I'm a day drpper, Im a day dripper...' , no wait ummm that's not right somehow. Well you get the idea.
Seriously. I would love to see the next mod be a HV atty than can take lots of dripping. Any scientific like minds out there? Minds that could cogitate on the atty/dripping issues of the day?:confused::shock::evil:
 

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I agree to all of the above but I think the BB / SB / Altsmoke PV's need to have some way to change the adapter without having to add this or that.

Make the top cap unscrew so the adapter can be changed somehow.

If not, then give the purchaser the option of what adapter they want.

I'm really into 808 carts right now because of the ease of use and the fact they last pretty much all day at work and while driving without having to fiddle with them.

That's the only thing that has kept me from purchasing a BB at this point.
It has great reviews and Grimm speaks very highly of it but I don't want to have to screw an adapter on it.

just my opinion **
 

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I agree to all of the above but I think the BB / SB / Altsmoke PV's need to have some way to change the adapter without having to add this or that.

Make the top cap unscrew so the adapter can be changed somehow.

If not, then give the purchaser the option of what adapter they want.

I'm really into 808 carts right now because of the ease of use and the fact they last pretty much all day at work and while driving without having to fiddle with them.

That's the only thing that has kept me from purchasing a BB at this point.
It has great reviews and Grimm speaks very highly of it but I don't want to have to screw an adapter on it.

just my opinion **
Me too. Looking for my second mod but I'm a fan of the 808cartz.
 

lotus14

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I'm puffing on a BB with an 808 cart as I type this. The adapter that AltSmoke sells has only 1/4" of shiny stainless exposed when used. It looks like it belongs there - nice and sleek and matches the silvery lettering on my black carto nicely.

That is not to say that other adapter options wouldn't be nice, but don't let it hold you back from missing out on the best little 6v device out there!
 

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I agree to all of the above but I think the BB / SB / Altsmoke PV's need to have some way to change the adapter without having to add this or that.

Make the top cap unscrew so the adapter can be changed somehow.

If not, then give the purchaser the option of what adapter they want.

I'm really into 808 carts right now because of the ease of use and the fact they last pretty much all day at work and while driving without having to fiddle with them.

That's the only thing that has kept me from purchasing a BB at this point.
It has great reviews and Grimm speaks very highly of it but I don't want to have to screw an adapter on it.

just my opinion **
There is a reason for me using 510 threads, lets say I make a male thread(901/801) you drop it on that thread you trashed the thread.... you are mad because you have to return it to me for repair. Why not recess the thread? Yuk you ever seen that crap that builds up in those. Not knocking it, I just dont like it. You have to screw the atty on it don't you? :p
Chad
 

grimmer255

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long lasting carts that has no polly fill but drips when you want it to. Pollyfill burns to much and its a pain to refill. Dripping is a pain because its every 5 -7 puffs and your dripping again... but the taste from dripping is perfect.

battery life with an 18650 battery is more than perfect... lol...
 
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