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I feel I have to put these two up to as they are on par with my top 3.
The Savour mtl and the Cthulhu Hastur mtl mini.
The Savour mtl and the Cthulhu Hastur mtl mini.
Not that it really matters, but I have only purchased 1 clone (tank or mod) ever in the 7 years I have been vaping (my wife on the other hand has purchased a few) and that is the doggy because the authentic is impossible. I have tried all my wife's clones and they were bad, but the doggy, although not a very well built rta, vapes fantastic and should last a long time. From what I hear and see, I think alot of today's clone tanks are pretty darn good and have come a long way, I personally just like supporting the authentic makers because someone has to do it....I often hear people totally doggin the authentic tanks, saying "that's ridiculous and I would never spend more then 10 bucks on a clone" which is fine because some just cannot afford it, but if it weren't for people supporting the authentic makers, you simply wouldn't be vaping that 10 dollar clone....but there are alot of cheap , Chinese authentic tanks too, whereas years ago there were alot more of , authentic & only clones, so much more options today. Not to many own an authentic doggy , so very hard to compareI think (maybe I am wrong) nobody on this forum is using authentic... but all who own those cheap Chinese clones like them very much... it is hard to no like them because they provide great vape and look simple and beautiful on any mod...
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It's not a case of not supporting authentic, i have never bought a clone in my life but neither have i or ever will spend the equivalent of $100 on an atty, my view is if they are charging that much for a small piece of metal with a bit of machining they are not supporting vapers but are simply interested in making money and as much as they can get away with so why should i support them.
If everyone had that opinion, the vaping industry wouldn't be what and where it is today and there's a good possibility that you wouldnt even have the option of your statement. I don't think many truly understand just how much authentic makers have driven this industry and how very important they have been to make it possible to have the options we see and it's the non respect of this that gets me . It's one thing to say an authentic would be nice, but it's just not for me, than to say, they are a total rip off and totally not worth it. If I were to bask in the glory of an item without acknowledgement or contribution to those that made it possible, I certainly wouldn't have that attitude . Case in point is the kayfun lite, probably the most honored rta of all time and the most cloned. These clones saved lives, as many quit cigarettes because they were affordable, but if svoemesto never was successful in these, those people could of never quit smoking, I say that is definitely worth 100 dollars just for that one reason alone, besides what it took to design an rta that basically all rta's that we see today use....there are many more instances like this that most vapors will never know or even want to know because the bottom line is cheap, cheap.
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I don't think things should be $10 dollors and as i said i personally have never bought a clone but i won't overpay, i should be able to say $100 is too much for an atty without being attacked. And i have never met anybody who gave up cigarettes using an RTA not saying people haven't but the people i talk to moved to RTA's and RDA's after quitting the ciggies. Not all authentic are $100 i have a family and couldn't justify to myself spending that sought of money on an atty when i can spend $40 and the rest can go on them. If that attitude stinks i will just have to smell.
My Doggies use a significantly different design @vapdivrr
. I never really liked the Kayfun design, though I realize it did very well for a lot of people back then. Then again, so did my Genisis atties. I suspect both are kinda out of date these days Vape what works for you, in design and in price range
My Doggies use a significantly different design @vapdivrr
Vape what works for you, in design and in price range
My Doggies use a significantly different design @vapdivrr
Vape what works for you, in design and in price range
Yes it does , as I said , almost every. I love the doggy as well and it uses the genesis design more or less, but without the mesh wicks....I agree to vape what works for each and in each price range for sure it's just certain attitudes that bug me I guess. But we are all here helping, which in itself is contribution.
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Believe me many have given up smoking with rtas, maybe not as much today, but not that long ago there were no rdas like today and drop in coil tanks were limited to a couple. I would say that everyone back then started with cig alikes then moved to carts and whatever drop ins were around, but a very big percentage moved to rebuilding. I was apart of the genesis and first kayfuns threads and seen many new vapors move directly into rebuilding. I understand you state you never purchased a clone, but even those inexpensive, so called Chinese authentics probably started out being clone manufacturers. I totally understand what your saying and totally get the money thing and have no issues with people staying on their budget whatever that is, I just feel that many, with the attitude that these authentic makers are a rip off, don't really understand what they have done. It's all good though as we all contribute anyways, as we are all here helping
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Same as most everyone here, my favorites are EHPRO Kayfun v2, SXK DoggieStyle, 24mm Vandy Vape Beserker , and 24mm Digiflavor Siren 2 .
I only have 3... only 2 if you don't count a RDTA... Haha! I have the YFTK clone of the Kayfun Prime RTA, the SXK clone of the Doggy RTA, and the Vapefly Galaxies RDTA.
Thank you all again for the recommendations. It turns out I ordered the Berserker 24mm and still have the Siren 2 and Doggy on my list. I must say the Berserker is simply amazing. It's extremely easy to build on, great draw plus flavor and it looks great on my Jac. I'm looking forward to the other too but everything has it's time
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YAY! I'm glad you're loving it! It really is an amazing MTL RTA, isn't it? I have just a few
in my Vapocolypse stash. In case you're interested.....VaporDNA has them on Clearance for $17.99. (Available in Gold and in Rainbow only now). You can get 10% more off using coupon code WELCOME10, or if that one doesn't work any more...sign up for their newsletter and you'll get a pop up that gives you a 10% off code immediately to use. Takes the price down to $16.19.
If you want to try a Berserker 22mm Mini...Breazy.com has them on Sale for the lowest price I've ever seen - $14.99 (Gold and Rainbow only there, too). Coupon code ALLVAPE will take another 10% off, so would be just $13.49. They have a flat S/H rate of just $4.99 for 1-3 of them. More than that and S/H is free.
FT has all the Minis as Discontinued now, except the Gold one, and their price on it is $30+. So if anyone wants a Mini, the deal above is especially great and apparently timely.
I was searching online for this answer but I cannot get a clear answer so I decided to ask here, what're the top 3 MTL RTA's? I would like the rta to be easy to build on, ability to hold at least 3ml juice too. Being that I never purchased a mtl rta the simple online search wasn't doing me any good. I know that there are many of us on ECF that prefer mtl so I am sure I will find the best mtl rta for myself. I'm not simply just posing the question just to know rather I'm serious about buying (like I was with the Jac...Just purchased it a couple days ago). Thank you all in advance for your suggestions and recommendations
https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/threads/atomizers-a-z.877969/page-4
Erls, Doggies, and Eggies (Ego One Mega V2 VTF) for me. I love my vape (truly and without exception).
Re clones, my entire approach changed after vapers attacked one vendor who was doing nothing but legally protecting his trademarked product. He got taken to task for "Trying to hurt vapers!" (by squashing those who infringed), and ended up selling off his company, leaving a shell behind (and the product line degraded considerably).
It's a known name, but not from these fingers. Many will already know who I'm talking about (it was a BIG issue back then).
I'll never forget that, and decided I'd do what was best for ME. That being said, I've found great luck with atties, but TERRIBLE experiences with mods. So mods (for me) are authentic only, atties are not. I've got Kayfuns and Erls and I honestly couldn't tell you which are which. There is no difference in appearance, materials, nor in vape.
What those bastiges do, they do well (for the most part), like it or not.
It's all changing anyway (for the worse) so glory to the stockpilers among us.
Re clones, my entire approach changed after vapers attacked one vendor who was doing nothing but legally protecting his trademarked product. He got taken to task for "Trying to hurt vapers!" (by squashing those who infringed), and ended up selling off his company, leaving a shell behind (and the product line degraded considerably).
It's a known name, but not from these fingers. Many will already know who I'm talking about (it was a BIG issue back then).
I'll never forget that, and decided I'd do what was best for ME. That being said, I've found great luck with atties, but TERRIBLE experiences with mods. So mods (for me) are authentic only, atties are not. I've got Kayfuns and Erls and I honestly couldn't tell you which are which. There is no difference in appearance, materials, nor in vape.
What those bastiges do, they do well (for the most part), like it or not.
It's all changing anyway (for the worse) so glory to the stockpilers among us.
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