Whats best cheapest E-cig to ween you off to quit completely?

[John Phoenix]

Whats best cheapest E-cig to ween you off to quit completely?

I thought I'd try using an e-cig to quite smoking for good. I thought I used to see kits that ween you off so you could quit forever but I cannot find them now.

Cost is of course an issue. E-cigs are expensive. I just need to purchase this product long enough to quit for good. I know the e-cig companies don't want this - they still want to keep you addicted to nicotine so they make money off of you but I was sure i had seen kits like I describe.

Does anyone know?

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Hello,
It is not the ecig itself, but the amt of nic in the ejuice that you can adjust....many vapers use 0 nic after weaning themselves down. And ecigs are not expensive. Consider the expense you spend on cigs. Cigs are much more expensive than ecigs
sas

 

[Ceegary]

If you're looking for a really cheap starter kit try here myPVshop.com Electronic Cigarettes - Specials. You would still need juice and so on, so I suggest you do a lot of reading here to bring yourself up to speed. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ng-you-ever-wanted-know-about-your-510-a.html The Wonderful World of Vaping | Vaping Guides

 

[dormouse]

Ecigs are not expensive. BS web and mall ripoff rebrander ecigs are expensive.

But the cheapest ecig is just way to waste money before buying a decent ecig.

How much do you smoke and what kind of cigs, and how determined are you for it to be slim?

Cheapest small ecig I would ever recommend - Joye 510 with manual batteries - see Cignot.com or Liberty-Flights.com (second shop has 20% off in upper left of front page - click that and all prices shown will be shown as 20% lower). Battery life 180mah or 2-3 hours for a light vaper, 1/2 that for a heavy vaper. Under $40 I think

Cheapest ecig I would ever recommend - Riva 510 lite bundle at Liberty-Flights.com - under $30 if you click the 20% off on the front page in the upper left corner. With the atomizers that come with it this will be a hot hit but you can also use standard resistance atomizers. Fat battery model and 750mah batteries for 6-8 hours of vaping.

 

[JD1]

Kit: Riva or Joye 510 kit from Liberty Flights. I personally have the Joye as I think their quality control is a little higher than most and their guarantee is better. Lots of folks love their Riva tho and it is less money. E-Liquid and Electronic Cigarette Shop - Category Listings

Juice: Big bottle of juice here https://shop.bluemistvaping.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=40_46

For about the same money as two cartons of cigarettes you're all set for a couple of months.

just my $.02

 

[tsbrewers]

this is as cheap as I have seen, http://tiny(remove me)url.com/64bbeq8

Brew

 

[CBB]

E-cigs aren't designed to wean you from cigarettes they are an alternative nicotine delivery system, if you try to use an E-cig to quit smoking then think you can just put down the E-cig you will be smoking again in no time. It will take a long time to get off the nicotine and is well worth the investment in a quality E-cig to last you as long as you need to get off the nicotine.

 

[MickeyRat]

While PVs aren't marketed to wean people off of nicotine, a lot of people use them that way. I'll also say that if you can resist all the goodies available for them, the fat bats eGo/Riva are going to save money because you don't need a PCC and a bunch of extra batteries. Longer term an e-power which takes a generic battery is cheaper still because it's cheaper to replace the battery.

 

[Secti0n31]

The ego or riva is ideal for someone who wants their first PV to be awesome. Anything less and you'll seriously be depressed with battery life.

Edit: Expensive means different things to different people. I for one, don't even like it when I need to buy a new box of (ce2)cartomizers for $10

 

[Cage024]

They can be used that way. If you look at the "quit smoking" products out there they let you step down the doses till your off nicotine completely. You can easily lower your nic levels over time. I do believe the e-cigs would work better than the other products because of the "oral fixation".

But most of us switch over to e-cigs for a healthier alternative to smoking.
Some of us even save a ton of money if were not buying every new product that comes out....

 

[MickeyRat]

There are even those that have lowered their nic level to 0 and continue to vape.

 

[DC2]

I thought I used to see kits that ween you off so you could quit forever but I cannot find them now.

They don't make kits designed to wean you off because it wouldn't make any sense.
Everybody who wants to work their way down to zero nicotine does it at their own pace, and usually with their own juice.

What you want to do is buy juice seperately and fill the cartridges yourself.
That way you have complete control over what flavors you are using, and what nicotine strength your juice is.

And if you fill the cartridges/cartomizers yourself, you also save a ton of money too.
And you can use any electronic cigarette you want, since any juice can be put into any electronic cigarette.

 

[meems]

This is where I am placing my next order..on a kit for my son in law.. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...5-new-kid-town-hoosierecigsupply-com-com.html, reasonable shipping, they have the color he wants...cheaper than I paid for mine.

 

[Vapor Pete]

Whats best cheapest E-cig to ween you off to quit completely?

I thought I'd try using an e-cig to quite smoking for good. I thought I used to see kits that ween you off so you could quit forever but I cannot find them now.

Cost is of course an issue. E-cigs are expensive. I just need to purchase this product long enough to quit for good. I know the e-cig companies don't want this - they still want to keep you addicted to nicotine so they make money off of you but I was sure i had seen kits like I describe.

Does anyone know?

.. It is not the ecig itself, but the amt of nic in the ejuice that you can adjust...

Wanna bet? You know how many folks have given up on e-cigs completely because they used an e-cig they find to be nothing but trouble? Like 3 pc models. They dont want to worry about attys and filling up carts. They dont like the draw of a particular model. They dont like the battery life. The dont like the size. The list goes on. I believe finding the RIGHT e-cig for you is what gets most people to hang in there and stop smoking. Iow... its ALL ABOUT the e-cig! Certainly not the cheapest. But you must be willing to spend some money and find the right one.

The juice (if you're using one that needs juice) is also a factor. But two peice models, which only need a disposable cartomizer, dont need juice. Unless of course you're using juice to drip into the cart and extend its life. But in ANY case, the nic level can be adjusted. It is very important to get the right nic level. When I started two years ago, I started with 16mg. I also had the wrong e-cig. Once I switched to a simple kr808-D, and upped my nic level to 24mg... I never looked back.

.many vapers use 0 nic after weaning themselves down.

Thats true. As I stated, I started at 16 then 24mg. Two years later, Im down to 11mg.

And ecigs are not expensive. Consider the expense you spend on cigs. Cigs are much more expensive than ecigs

Sorry, but again... wanna bet?

I can assure you I (and probably most vapers) spend more on ecigs than analogs. Its an expensive trade-off. I can buy cigarettes at the indian reservation for $18 a carton, every two weeks, if I want to smoke off brands. I spend about $200 a month for the wife and I to be free of tobacco by using the ecig.

I must add that we are seriel vapers and I am rarely without it in my hand. But I still would be confident in assuming most long time vapers are spending more on ecigs, than they used to on cigarettes. If you're not, then I think you're in the minority, not the majority. Just my .02...

-VP

 

[swedishfish]

It's your choice to spend $200 a month on ecig supplies. It's certainly not necessary to do so. I probably have spent more in the three months I've been vaping. But I really don't have to. I for some reason feel the need to try everything mentioned on this forum.

I'm actually vaping with the first kit I got and the first juice I got. People could (if they like the model) spend $30 on a riva and buy a few big bottles of juice or make some and it's fairly cheap. You'd only need the additional battery or cartos from time to time. It's the search for the bigger better carto or tank or whatever new thing that comes out that makes it expensive.

 

[Secti0n31]

$18??? Holy crap I couldn't even roll my own for $18 a carton! That's how much I spend a month on ejuice and cartos tho, between 50 and 60. When I need to replace an atty it's closer to 60 than 50 but I spent $200+ a month on cigs and I smoked pall malls! They were cheap and I bought by the carton! And that's not even the NY/NJ price that's in rural parts of Ohio.

Getting started was very expensive tho, about $200 for my PV's and charger, LR attys for the ego, several packs of different cartos to try them all, a storm tank (which I love, even if it's a little ugly), and various pieces parts. I'm still sampling juices to find flavors I like but I buy them in 3-5ml bottles until I find 2 or 3 that I'm really into, but that's a work in progress that may never end.

Long story short, you can spend as little as $50 and have enough stuff to get you going and realize that you may or may not like vaping better than tobacco smoking. The reason I spent so much money at first is because the blu kit was a massive fail on my part and I needed to upgrade to an ego and pronto. If I make another big purchase it'll probably be a VV Joker and/or a vaperite.

Spend money at your discretion OP, but If you start somewhere in the middle (ego/vgo/riva/go-go) you'll be happy, and be able to trash your cigs

 

[John Phoenix]

Thanks for the replies.

I currently smoke a pipe (or roll my own) with Top tobacco. I switched from regular cigs a few years back when the prices went above 4 bucks a pack. that was for 1 day of smoking. Now with Top I smoke a pouch in about 5 days and it cost 4.50 a pouch so I spend about a dollar a day. Compared to that for me, yes e-cigs would be expensive.

What are the dosages and what dose nicotine wise should i start on?

How expensive are the different nicotine juices?

How many would I need to ween myself down?

How long does each juice bottle last?

How long do the batteries last?

How often would I have to replace the batteries?

How much do the batteries cost?

Since no one sells a no smoking e-cig kit that does this, I would need to design my own. I need all that info to be able to design one.

In light of those questions - now what products (cheapest) do you recommend?

Thanks.

 

[swedishfish]

Thanks for the replies.

I currently smoke a pipe (or roll my own) with Top tobacco. I switched from regular cigs a few years back when the prices went above 4 bucks a pack. that was for 1 day of smoking. Now with Top I smoke a pouch in about 5 days and it cost 4.50 a pouch so I spend about a dollar a day. Compared to that for me, yes e-cigs would be expensive.

What are the dosages and what dose nicotine wise should i start on?

How expensive are the different nicotine juices?

How many would I need to ween myself down?

How long does each juice bottle last?

How long do the batteries last?

How often would I have to replace the batteries?

How much do the batteries cost?

Since no one sells a no smoking e-cig kit that does this, I would need to design my own. I need all that info to be able to design one.

In light of those questions - now what products (cheapest) do you recommend?

Thanks.

I purchased the Joye ego kit from Liberty Flights, I think it was $40. It comes with a 6 month warranty on batteries which is excellent. If you have a problem, notify them and the battery is in the mail. The sent me a label to return the bad battery.
You can buy the Riva ego from them for $30. It's the same, warranty is a little less but still good. Extra batteries are about $15.00. Cartomizers (which I use) are around $8 for a pack of 5. They are disposable but can be refilled many times.

I vape 24 ml. nicotine. I purchase nhalers juice and three bottles cost $43.00 for 90 ml. I vape approx 2 ml a day so a 30 ml bottle lasts me a couple weeks. I think I'm on the low side of juice usage, I think the average is 3-5 ml a day. I tend to not vape as much with higher nic juice. I'm sure you can find cheaper juices but this is my all day vape.

I'm pretty happy to keep doing what I'm doing indefinitely. Maybe at some point I'll slowly lower the nicotine level but I'm thrilled to not be smoking. I couldn't quit, now I don't have to!

 

[Secti0n31]

Allright let me take a crack at this because I'm a little new myself, only 2 months but it's been a long 2 months.

If you smoked regular full flavored cigs use 18mg or 24mg; Lights or lighter 16mg or lower. I suggest you go just a tad stronger than you think you might need at first, and ween yourself down.

The juices vary in price based on how much you buy. If you buy a 5ml bottle odds are it's going to be $5, but you can buy a 60ml bottle for $15 in some places (madvapes.com) but don't buy a large bottle of juice unless you try it first and are sure you're going to like it. That's the cheapest you will get, it goes up from there depending on where you buy and how much.

How many juices? How many batteries? Cartridges? I'm not sure what you mean by that, but I suggest one ego starter kit, which is around $70 and will come with 2 batteries, 2 atomizers, 5 empty or full cartridges and a charger (I recommend upgrading to cartomizers but we can figure that out later). So the kit and say a couple 10ml bottles of juice for close to $100. It may sound like a lot but compared to the 2-300 a month that you spend on regular cigs you'll be fine.

Depends on how much you vape. I go through between 2 and 3ml a day so a 30ml bottle lasts me 10-15 days. When I started it was closer to 1ml a day, I just like it so much that I vape all day.

A cheap, normal 510 battery lasts about 90 minutes of constant use, 2-2.5 hours (that's why they give you two) of light use and take a half hour to recharge. An eGo/Riva battery will last 6-8 hours of constant use, and 10-12 of light use.

I have no freakin clue how long the batteries last. I've been told anywhere from 6mos to 8mos to a year. I've also been told 150-200 recharge cycles, but after 2 months I've had no degradation in battery life. I expect them to last for quite some time. The smaller the battery, the less likely it is going to last very long.

I recommend an ego kit from litecigusa.net, an inferno kit from Volcano, a Riva kit from Liberty Flights, or something similar. If you want to try to save a little money, you can get a 510/magma/titan kit (they're all the same, different names) for about 15% cheaper, but it's much more worth it to spend the money and get the "Fat battery"

Good luck! Let us know what you get

 

[DC2]

You're probably not going to like the answers...

What are the dosages and what dose nicotine wise should i start on?

Everybody is different, and it can take a few tries to find out what YOUR body needs.

Too little nicotine and you may have cravings.
Too much nicotine and you'll get nausea and headaches.

Based on the fact that you used to smoke around one pack per day...
I'm going to guess you'll need something between 18mg and 24mg strength juice.

How expensive are the different nicotine juices?

It depends on how much you use, and which kind you buy, unless you make your own.

This poll shows how much juice per day people use on average...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/polls/153112-how-much-juice-do-you-use-per-day.html

You can get 30ml of juice for around $10 if you want to, or $15 for the better known brands.
Or you can make your own for much less than $1.00 per day.
Or you can get like 100ml of Dekang juice for cheap.

How many would I need to ween myself down?

Nobody can answer that.

Don't worry about getting everything you need at once.
Just get what you need when your body tells you that you need it.

How long does each juice bottle last?

Depends on what size bottle you buy, and how much juice you use per day.

How long do the batteries last?

Depends on how much you use them.
I guess you can figure on about 300 charges maybe.

Nobody can tell you how many charges you are going to use per day.
Just get a couple of batteries and you'll quickly figure it out.

How often would I have to replace the batteries?

Same answer as above.

How much do the batteries cost?

For the kind of model I assume you are going to buy, probably around $12 maybe?

In light of those questions - now what products (cheapest) do you recommend?

Those questions don't really help much.

I think you are in desperate need of reading this...
The Wonderful World of Vaping | Vaping Guides

It will answer all of the questions you asked, although not in the way you want them answered.
But you'll understand why once you read through that.