What's so great about Provaris?

[SingedVapor]

Sorry to hear yours only lasted 5 months mine has lasted much longer without any complications. My Provari has had mechanical problems and friends have experienced that as well. Sooner or later all products will need to be replaced no matter how well you care for them. But at 1/4 the price the MVP 2 is a far better investment in my opinion and leaves you extra money for tanks, coils, juice etc... If money is no issue then I would go with Provari but that's not the case for most people. MVP is an excellent device for the money and then some.

The MVP is a great device don't get me wrong. It was my go to after the ego. I was simply commenting on the basis that the OP was considering the Provari and someone brought up the MVP. I'm sorry to hear about your problems, and unfortunately as I have never owned the Provari (as you should be able to tell, my alliance lies on the other side with the REO ) I cannot help. But the provari fan base for a reason and had I not gone the reo way I would probably be vaping a provari right now. But let me clear up one misunderstanding. My problem is not with the MVP itself but the lipo battery that it uses. (Which is also my problem with the VaporShark and DNA mods) the provari offers the functionality of a user replaceable battery as opposed to the disposable battery pack.

 

[Retro Man]

What mechanical problems have you and your friends had with the Provari and were they covered under warranty?

I'm no Provari fanboy (look at my post history if you want confirmation) but I'd be interested to see what issues you had and how Provape handled it.

The voltage meter on the readout display only went to 4.1 instead of 6.0 the maximum output, each time I tried to reset and re-adjust I got the same reading. The batteries were also not making a good connection and juices were tasting bland not heating properly and this is with the 18350 AW. Digital display would flash on and off and not produce accurate reading and menu went blank. As with most products, getting warranties honored is challenging. When defects take place down the road they presume you damaged it. I should have purchased extra warranty but didn't think I would have problems. They did service it but I had problems down the line and at that point didn't want to bother with it further.

 

[Rancor0681]

I'm probably going to brutalized for this but I'm going to go ahead and say that while YES the Provari (current version) is built like a tank, it is painfully outdated in terms of features. Most notable IMO is either the lack of variable wattage or the archaic single-button user interface and accompanying 7-segment display. If you ask me, the money would be better spent on a Vapor Shark rDNA 30, a very well-built, $190, adjustable from 7-30 watt mod with a beautiful design and interface. Edit to include the fact that the rDNA 30 uses DC to DC voltage regulation instead of pulse width modulation (so the output waveforms look even better than those of a Provari) if you care about that type of thing.

Just because it's outdated for your use doesn't mean it's outdated. Not everyone wants to vape VW or do they want to push into vaping super high watts or volts or sub Ohm. Yes for your preferences it is outdated but for the avg vapor and new vapors the provari is perfect.

So why the need for you to come into this thread to tell someone that wants a provari that a provari is outdated and he should vape to your preferences is a lil Ludacris. .

Not really sure why people can't either directly answer the original posted question it'd not that hard don't like the provari don't answer the thread easy

 

[Rancor0681]

Not much to be honest. I bought mine a while ago and I am not too impressed. It's fancy, high end and expensive and it looks good but that's about it. You are far better off buying an Itaste MVP2 and it will perform better and last longer, not to mention saving you about $140. I would suggest buying a different tank since Innokin tanks are poorly constructed in my opinion. Get Protank 3 or Nautilus Mini. Good deals here Electronic Cigarette - Best Electronic Cigarette - Vapor Cigarette Electronic Cigarettes - evape.us. Plus you'll have more money for juice which is awesome

Again not what was asked yes the mvp is a good lil device but he didn't ask what's good about an mvp

 

[DaveP]

I paid $159 for my Provari V2 on sale in 2012. I bought the extended warranty for $24.95 and that covered mine for the second year. Back in April I called Provape for an RMA # and sent it back for refurb/repair for a flaky fire button switch. They replaced the switch and cleaned it up. It came back looking like new except for a couple of scratches I knew wouldn't buff out, but you have to look very closely to notice them.

The fire button replacement has a definite transitional detent that's unmistakeable and is much better than the original. I have no more menu jumps due to switch bounce.

My Provari has been trouble free for well over two years. I know we all sound like fan boys when we praise our Provaris, but they are just well made devices. I'll admit that the industry is catching up in terms of quality (if you buy the right Chinese mods), but Provari was the first to build a mil spec device with quality materials and design. They did this while China was producing pot metal junk 510's and early eGos. Provari is a keeper. You won't find pot metal parts in a Provari. Is it worth twice the price? IMO, it is. You can buy one and expect it to last for years. When it breaks, Provape will repair it for a fair price and get it back to you in a week or less. From the time I dropped off my Provari at the Post Office until it reappeared in my mail box, was about 7 days.

What makes us appreciate the Provari is that it isn't a throwaway if it breaks. I went from 650mah eGos to the Provari a couple of years ago. Since that time, the only mod I have bought is a Sigelei Zmax V3. It's a nice VV/VW mod for the $64 I paid for it, but it isn't as precisely made as my Provari. It has switch bounce problems and I'll probably replace the switch myself. It has loose threads that wobble slightly until spring pressure from the battery takes up the slack. It has to have Ox-Guard or Noalox on the threads to make it work without issues. They all need contact grease to prevent wear, but the Sigelei is really flaky without it. There's nowhere to send it for repair. I'd have to buy another and hope it was better. Do that 2 or 3 times and you could of had a Provari.

That said, you can shop very astutely and buy three (or more) good mods for the price of a Provari. Do your homework and the rewards are there. If the Chinese manufacturers would open stateside repair, they could be competitive, but I see them as being happy to sell you a new one instead of standing behind the one you own (after the first 30 days).

 

[Retro Man]

Again not what was asked yes the mvp is a good lil device but he didn't ask what's good about an mvp

The original poster asked about whether or not the Provari was good and a justified the cost. As an experienced user/owner I gave my input and suggested an alternative device that may better suit his needs so that he can save money. People are free to comment and suggest as they please to help others expand their options

 

[Retro Man]

I paid $159 for my Provari V2 on sale in 2012. I bought the extended warranty for $24.95 and that covered mine for the second year. Back in April I called Provape for an RMA # and sent it back for refurb/repair for a flaky fire button switch. They replaced the switch and cleaned it up. It came back looking like new except for a couple of scratches I knew wouldn't buff out, but you have to look very closely to notice them.

The fire button replacement has a definite transitional detent that's unmistakeable and is much better than the original. I have no more menu jumps due to switch bounce.

My Provari has been trouble free for well over two years. I know we all sound like fan boys when we praise our Provaris, but they are just well made devices. I'll admit that the industry is catching up in terms of quality (if you buy the right Chinese mods), but Provari was the first to build a mil spec device with quality materials and design. They did this while China was producing pot metal junk 510's and early eGos. Provari is a keeper. You won't find pot metal parts in a Provari. Is it worth twice the price? IMO, it is. You can buy one and expect it to last for years. When it breaks, Provape will repair it for a fair price and get it back to you in a week or less. From the time I dropped off my Provari at the Post Office until it reappeared in my mail box, was about 7 days.

What makes us appreciate the Provari is that it isn't a throwaway if it breaks. I went from 650mah eGos to the Provari a couple of years ago. Since that time, the only mod I have bought is a Sigelei Zmax V3. It's a nice VV/VW mod for the $64 I paid for it, but it isn't as precisely made as my Provari. It has switch bounce problems and I'll probably replace the switch myself. It has loose threads that wobble slightly until spring pressure from the battery takes up the slack. It has to have Ox-Guard or Noalox on the threads to make it work without issues. They all need contact grease to prevent wear, but the Sigelei is really flaky without it. There's nowhere to send it for repair. I'd have to buy another and hope it was better. Do that 2 or 3 times and you could of had a Provari.

That said, you can shop very astutely and buy three (or more) good mods for the price of a Provari. Do your homework and the rewards are there. If the Chinese manufacturers would open stateside repair, they could be competitive, but I see them as being happy to sell you a new one instead of standing behind the one you own (after the first 30 days).

"You can shop very astutely and buy three or more good mods for the price of a Provari" I couldn't agree more with you. I made an impulse buy because of all the hype but time and wisdom serves as the best teacher.

 

[bcalvanese]

There is yet to be a more accurate and/or dependable device on the planet.

That is what is so great about the Provari.

 

[roosterado]

I'm probably going to brutalized for this but I'm going to go ahead and say that while YES the Provari (current version) is built like a tank, it is painfully outdated in terms of features. Most notable IMO is either the lack of variable wattage or the archaic single-button user interface and accompanying 7-segment display. If you ask me, the money would be better spent on a Vapor Shark rDNA 30, a very well-built, $190, adjustable from 7-30 watt mod with a beautiful design and interface. Edit to include the fact that the rDNA 30 uses DC to DC voltage regulation instead of pulse width modulation (so the output waveforms look even better than those of a Provari) if you care about that type of thing.

Vapor Shark is nice What happens if you drop it hard? does it have 1 or 2 yr warranty option? Trying to decide between it and Provari 3 I perfer tube mods slightly over Box Mods

 

[Souljah96786]

Hey, I kind of would like to ask my fiancee for a Provari for my birthday but am having a hard time justifying spending $180 on a battery. The most I've spent on a battery so far is like $40. What makes them worth that price?

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[jwbnyc]

The voltage meter on the readout display only went to 4.1 instead of 6.0 the maximum output, each time I tried to reset and re-adjust I got the same reading. The batteries were also not making a good connection and juices were tasting bland not heating properly and this is with the 18350 AW. Digital display would flash on and off and not produce accurate reading and menu went blank. As with most products, getting warranties honored is challenging. When defects take place down the road they presume you damaged it. I should have purchased extra warranty but didn't think I would have problems. They did service it but I had problems down the line and at that point didn't want to bother with it further.

If your talking about the voltage meter that reads your battery charge, it is never going to read anything higher than 4.2V. Or it least it shouldn't if your battery isn't being over-charged. Your reading of 4.1V is basically the meter reading a fully charged battery.

 

[shatteredsoul76]

I have only been vaping for a few weeks, in that time I have bought a innokin VV V3, Sigelei 20w and a used Provari V2 off the ECF classifieds. I use my V2 95% of the time and I absolutely love it, it has been flawless so far. It hits good each and every time I press the button, I could care less about any of the fancier stuff out like a puff counter etc.

Also why not just get a blem, they start at $130 and I dare you to find a better mod that will last that long for the price.

 

[stevegmu]

The voltage meter on the readout display only went to 4.1 instead of 6.0 the maximum output, each time I tried to reset and re-adjust I got the same reading. The batteries were also not making a good connection and juices were tasting bland not heating properly and this is with the 18350 AW. Digital display would flash on and off and not produce accurate reading and menu went blank. As with most products, getting warranties honored is challenging. When defects take place down the road they presume you damaged it. I should have purchased extra warranty but didn't think I would have problems. They did service it but I had problems down the line and at that point didn't want to bother with it further.

My guess is user error.

 

[Retro Man]

My guess is user error.

Your guess is wrong. I take good care of my hardware. It's not uncommon to have manufacturer's defects. Thanks...

 

[Baditude]

The voltage meter on the readout display only went to 4.1 instead of 6.0 the maximum output, each time I tried to reset and re-adjust I got the same reading. The batteries were also not making a good connection and juices were tasting bland not heating properly and this is with the 18350 AW. Digital display would flash on and off and not produce accurate reading and menu went blank. As with most products, getting warranties honored is challenging. When defects take place down the road they presume you damaged it. I should have purchased extra warranty but didn't think I would have problems. They did service it but I had problems down the line and at that point didn't want to bother with it further.

Your guess is wrong. I take good care of my hardware. It's not uncommon to have manufacturer's defects. Thanks...

Sounds like you were confusing the battery voltage meter reading and the voltage output setting modes. That's user error. Don't confuse user error with user abuse.

Battery voltage of a fully charged battery under load will be 4.1 volts. That is normal.

Maximum voltage output is 6.0 volts from the voltage setting mode.

Sometimes the spring in the battery cap becomes compressed and only needs to be stretched out longer.

I've never read of Provape not honoring their warranty. And even after warranty expiration, they will continue to fix a Provari for a reasonable price for life. And usually have it back to you in a weeks time.

At least with Provape, you have the choice to get your Provari repaired if you wish. With most other manufacterers in this industry, you don't get that option. Don't knock a company willing to help you if you're not interested in taking advantage of their services. That's all on you.

An MVP is a great inexpensive mod. I have one myself. However, it is nowhere near as durable as my Provari's. I know full well that if it breaks or disfunctions, it becomes a paperweight. No option to get it fixed. Also, its ultimately a throwaway mod once the battery dies for good. And it will eventually. I fully expect my Provari's to last many, many years.

 

[Retro Man]

If your talking about the voltage meter that reads your battery charge, it is never going to read anything higher than 4.2V. Or it least it shouldn't if your battery isn't being over-charged. Your reading of 4.1V is basically the meter reading a fully charged battery.

The voltage meter display recognizes voltage output for the device which goes to 6.0 as it did when I initially purchased it. In time it simply broke down due to poor manufacturing. It happens. I'm not impressed with the Provari.

 

[Alter]

My wife has had her pink provari for 15 months now, takes it to work its been her only device she uses. It hasn't skipped a beat in that time unlike me who has to constantly fiddle with my mechs and VV devices I have.
Not having any issues with her provari is worth more to me than the 200 bucks spent on the unit and accessories. I broke down and bought a black provari about 6 months ago and it isn't my all day PV but it always has atty on it, nearby ready to give me a vape.
I thought I was paying just for a name but after 15 months of uninterrupted daily usage, the quality speaks volumes but the short of it is I don't care what you buy since its your problem buying something cheaper and having to spend twice to replace that cheap product.

 

[Retro Man]

Sounds like you were confusing the battery voltage meter reading and the voltage output setting modes. That's user error. Don't confuse user error with user abuse.

Battery voltage of a fully charged battery under load will be 4.1 volts. That is normal.

Maximum voltage output is 6.0 volts from the voltage setting mode.

Sometimes the spring in the battery cap becomes compressed and only needs to be stretched out longer.

I've never read of Provape not honoring their warranty. And even after warranty expiration, they will continue to fix a Provari for a reasonable price for life. And usually have it back to you in a weeks time.

At least with Provape, you have the choice to get your Provari repaired if you wish. With most other manufacterers in this industry, you don't get that option. Don't knock a company willing to help you if you're not interested in taking advantage of their services. That's all on you.

An MVP is a great inexpensive mod. I have one myself. However, it is nowhere near as durable as my Provari's. I know full well that if it breaks or disfunctions, it becomes a paperweight. No option to get it fixed. Also, its ultimately a throwaway mod once the battery dies for good. And it will eventually. I fully expect my Provari's to last many, many years.

I didn't get the reading mixed up. It was clear on my display and when it failed to produce what it did from the onset that does not imply user error that is a manufacturing defect. When the menu goes erratic that is not user error. I had it serviced and when it came back it didn't last long before problems resurfaced. I believe a company should produce good reliable products from the onset and when they don't that is NOT on me. I paid good money and I expect a good product to perform and perform well. I already checked the connections you implied and that was not the issue. Anyhow, I stand by my convictions. I am not impressed with the Provari. If others enjoy them than great best of luck. I don't need the aggravation of faulty products and having to send back and forth for repair. The MVP 2 is better for me. Thanks for your opinion.

 

[Baditude]

I didn't get the reading mixed up. It was clear on my display and when it failed to produce what it did from the onset that does not imply user error that is a manufacturing defect. When the menu goes erratic that is not user error. I had it serviced and when it came back it didn't last long before problems resurfaced. I believe a company should produce good reliable products from the onset and when they don't that is NOT on me. I paid good money and I expect a good product to perform and perform well. I already checked the connections you implied and that was not the issue. Anyhow, I stand by my convictions. I am not impressed with the Provari. If others enjoy them than great best of luck. I don't need the aggravation of faulty products and having to send back and forth for repair. The MVP 2 is better for me. Thanks for your opinion.

If this is what you experienced, then it was an extremely unusual and out of the ordinary situation. This has not been the norm with Provape products as witnessed by many customers who have had service from Provape. The quality control and customer service of Provape is exceptional.



I'm sincerely sorry that your experience was not so good. I'm certain had you returned your Provari a second time and explained that you had developed the same problem as before, Provape would have done you right, probably replacing the entire circuit board.

Your welcome.

 

[irwink]

I've never hesitated to criticize the current 2.5 versions of the Provari as dinosaurs but dependable and well supported by Provape. I Love my Semovars for their features, performance, engineering and construction. That said I much prefer the form factor of the Provari and better battery life despite the lack of VW and a few other negatives. That said I picked up a blem mini Provari a couple of weeks ago and love it as my pocket carry and outstanding battery life when powered by a lowly 18350. Like others have stated I've yet to discover what made it considered a blem.

Provari lovers on this forum often jump to accusations that one is a hater if they criticize their beloved dinosaurs. With the advent of the P3 my dinosaur criticisms will likely go away as it appears Provape has addressed all of those criticisms. I'll likely buy one once the initial production units have proven themselves.

So my recommendation would be to wait a bit for the P3. But if you just can't wait I doubt you'll be disappointed with a 2.5.