What's The Best Combination to make LOTS of SMOKE? :)

[Webdoc]

Hello,

Quick question really... what combination of liquids/tools/etc. would you say makes the most smoke? For me the whole aspect of making a nice thick cloud of smoke/vapor is one of the key aspects of this whole habit of mine, and I am just curious if anyone has ever done some research into how to encloak oneself in a haze of vape? Any suggestions welcome

I have been told by the sales-woman that sold me some liquids that it depends on the heating element, but I wonder if there are other aspects that matter like what the liquid is made of, etc...

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[ranger 1110]

100% pure Vg juice will make a ton of vapour. Bobas bounty is 100% Vg and it pumps out vapour that would fog up the room in 3 hits. Lol. Voltage will also affect the vapour production of juice too. Pg = throat hit and flavour and Vg = vapour and muted flavour.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

With 3.7 volt PVs LR single coil are best.

Juice Components
Flavoring usually about 15%
PG enhances flavor, TH and lung hit- water like
VG= vapor and can mute flavor- thick
Nicotine- TH, lung hit and our need for nicotine. The MOST important ingredient in regards to TH and lung hit.
Standards in the industry are 80/ 20 or 70/ 30 PG/ VG. I vape 70/ 30 PG/ VG.

 

[glassmanoak]

When I drip into an atty, I use 80% VG.
When I use a carto and/or tank, I use 60% VG. To me, I GOTTA have vapor.. taste or not!

 

[tj99959]

Finger on the trigger three seconds before you start to draw on it.

 

[JYan]

When I drip into an atty, I use 80% VG.
When I use a carto and/or tank, I use 60% VG. To me, I GOTTA have vapor.. taste or not!

Agreed! Loves me plumes of vapor!

 

[yzer]

I vape DIY 95/5 VG/H2O. It makes tons of vapor with my regulated 3.7V APV and Smok Tech single coil 2.0 or 1.7 ohm cartos. 100% VG is too thick to be used with devices that have a wick or filler material. It needs to be thinned, first.

 

[Bullette the Cowdog]

Been seriously vaping only 6 months.
The biggest plumes of vapor I have made so far came from this:
Kgo @ 3.7-4.0 volts
Cisco 306 atomizer @ 1.8 ohm
dripping 100% vg juice straight onto atomizer.
Couldn't see my hand in front of my face !
Now if I had vaped that in front of a mirror & taken a pic, you would have been most impressed. LOL. That's what they do in videos. Makes it look like twice the fog.

 

[recidivus]

If flavour isn't a concern and you want big clouds you'll want to be dripping onto a SR(2.4Ohm) atty on a VV device at higher than 4.6V (Ohms law you want 6-8 wattsish) using 100VG and at least 4-6 second mouth pull.

 

[Webdoc]

Right 'oh... I see I'm not the only cloud-addict here But... I am gonna have to get up to speed on the jargon because I can barely understand some of the comments But - thanks and I'll see what I can get here

 

[recidivus]

Right, I may be to blame for that...

You definitely aren't the only one who loves big clouds.

Here's the abbreviations I used in my reply:

SR/LR: Standard / Low Resistance
Atty: Atomizer
VV: Variable Volt
V: Volt
PG/VG: Propylene Glycol/Vegetable Glycerine (the juice base)

For juices VG produces the most vapour, though there's less throat hit (TH), and the flavours get muted. If you want clouds a higher VG content is wanted.

You want to get in the "Sweet spot" for watts, which is usually around 6-8 watts from what I've been reading. How many volts are needed to hit that spot depends on the resistance of the attached hardware. When shopping you'll see the ohm rating for the delivery, or at least LR or SR. On standard batteries you're usually best to go with low resistance, since they only push around 3.2-3.8 volts. If you have a high resistance attach. you'll need more volts to hit that wattage, hence the variable volt device that will let you increase the voltage. An Ego Twist (which you'll see mentioned often around here) will go from 3.2v up to 4.8v. If you were to use 4.8 volts on a low resistance atomizer, you're going to burn it out very quickly. I don't think anything tastes worse that a burnt atty, except maybe trying to smoke hair. Once it's burnt there's not much you can do to get rid of the taste, so it's always best to slowly increase voltage until you get what you like. That calculator I posted can help get you get closer to the watts you're looking for faster.

Hope that helps clear it up a little.

 

[yzer]

Yes wattage is part of the big vapor formula, so is high percentage VG e-liquid.

VG is actually Glycerin USP. You may purchase it inexpensively at any drug store.

The preferred 6-8 watts can be supplied with a regulated single voltage APV like the E-Power 14650. You don't need a high wattage, high voltage or variable voltage APV or PV for that.

Regulated 3.7V means that the APV is going to deliver 3.7V so long as the battery is charged somewhere between the full fresh charge of nearly 4.2V to the nominal charge of 3.7V. In the E-Power 14650: when the battery falls under 3.7V the APV voltage will be equal to the battery voltage (less than 3.7V). When battery voltage falls to 3.4V the low voltage signal will flash meaning it's time to swap out to a fully charged battery. If you don't the E-Power 14650 will soon shut down.

In my experience, the E-Power 14650 delivers 3.7V from the ICR 14650 battery for about 15.5 hours or 2-3 ml of vaping. It delivers 3.6 to 3.4 for only 30 minutes or so before the low battery light flashes and the device shuts down.

What wattage can you get from regulated 3.7V?

With a 1.7 ohm LR single coil carto (or other atomizing device) you will get 8.05 watts.

With a 2.0 ohm LR single coil carto you will get 6.8 watts.

With a 2.3 ohm LR single coil carto you will get 6.0 watts.

So you really don't need VV (variable voltage) or high voltage to get 6-8 watts of vaping power. Regulated voltage at 3.7V will do the job at less cost with less electronic circuitry. A mechanical or unregulated APV or PV will not deliver vapor with consistent quality, as the device voltage always falls as battery voltage falls.

 

[yzer]

Variable voltage allows you get that 6-8 watts with voltage higher than 3.7V and atomizing devices with higher resistance (SR, or standard resistance such as 3.0 ohms). Watts are still watts, no matter how you get it.

 

[recidivus]

Oh you absolutely don't need VV to get the "required" watts, but if you're using a 3.0ohm the 3.7v is only going to get you around 4.5w. Before I learned about the differences I thought "standard resistance" meant that it was standard and preferable for noobs to use...derp.

I still vaped away on SR clearomizers but never was happy with the vape, started reading and learning and now that I have a VV those clearos are doing what they should. Personally I think they should just call them by the ohm rating and not use "standard" or "low", especially since there's variations within each group. I have parts ranging from 1.5 up to 3.0 ohm, one companies LR doesn't match another.

VV just gives you more options when buying parts, and tweaking the watts to produce a satisfactory vape without buying more.

 

[yzer]

Oh you absolutely don't need VV to get the "required" watts, but if you're using a 3.0ohm the 3.7v is only going to get you around 4.5w.

Which is why you use LR or 1.7 to 2.3 ohms with 3.7V to get 6-8 watts.

 

[Will Bennett]

my super vapor set up right now is a phoenix ohmed out at 1ohm on the provari rocking at 3v and some 50/50 juice

 

[yzer]

my super vapor set up right now is a phoenix ohmed out at 1ohm on the provari rocking at 3v and some 50/50 juice

Love it! That's LR!

 

[Webdoc]

Whoah guys... this is some serious pro stuff you're talking about here... I just did a search here locally and all I could find is a CHARGER for that E-Power 14650 battery... no battery itself though. I am not sure if I'd wanna order all this stuff from elsewhere like the US...

However, I DID find VG oils, that is not going to be a problem. I'll start with that and see how I go. I am using the eGo-T 1100mAh device, so far very happy, lasts me long enough, although the atomizers I have need to be filled at least 30% lest I risk smoking "burnt hair" as one poster put it

For now I am not planning to mod much to be honest, aside of when it comes to computers I am not much of a McGuyver At any rate, thanks so much for the information and if I ever decide to go more pro so to speak I will certainly revisit the issue