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I started vaping about 4 years ago and quit because of the hassle of stuff breaking, batteries dying, atomizers not working constantly buying new stuff. I bet I spent $500 on stuff just to throw it all away because it was such a hassle. I got back into it recently and I did some research on the forums and just got a provari mini with kanger protank and could not be happier. I fill it up and enjoy. Throw a new battery in it and go. It is super simple. Technology really has come a long way in the last 4 years. Totally worth the money and hassle free.
Got my answer now.
I guess the high ends mods are more for aesthetic purposes and self fulfillment. Couldnt find a fault in that if you could afford them
I guess the high ends mods are more for aesthetic purposes and self fulfillment. Couldnt find a fault in that if you could afford them
I'm afraid it's going to be the same answer to the question of why someone would ride a fixed gear bike. "If you have to ask, you wouldn't understand." IOW, don't ask me; I wouldn't understand, either.
I have a VV and a mech mod. The VV works just fine with my carto for daily usage. When I take a drag it has much more resistance and simulates taking a drag from a analog. Vapor production is good.
My mech vapes much different. My setup allows me to set the drag resistance. Its set up where it's much more free flowing and create plumes of vapor. Hits much harder than my VV setup. And best off all, you can build you coil, wick setup to your own specs rather than buy premade clearos, cartos, etc.
My mech vapes much different. My setup allows me to set the drag resistance. Its set up where it's much more free flowing and create plumes of vapor. Hits much harder than my VV setup. And best off all, you can build you coil, wick setup to your own specs rather than buy premade clearos, cartos, etc.
Have already decided my next device will be a Super T build. Hopefully my Vamo will last long enough for me to save for the ELA and then probably a Provari. That would leave me with 2 top end devices and a Vamo backup.
And then...
I thought I'd chime in as a middle aged 55 year old woman, not technically gifted in any sense of the word. I've been vaping since Dec 2011. I've been using a vari tube for several months and really like it! It's easy to check the voltage, I can adjust up and down without looking at it. I have a battery bar that is easy to read. Recently my husband gave me a full size Provari for my birthday (shout out to CigTech Hanover Park IL GREAT people and store) I really really like it..I like the black rubberized exterior, it won't scratch as easily yay! I like the smaller size, I did have to buy an extension for an 18650 battery. That's ok. It's still thinner. I also found out it only takes button top batteries. Thankfully I have 2 18650s that work I'll need to buy more. Do I really truly appreciate the "what you set is what you get" technology? Probably not. Maybe some day I'll remember the number of low voltage, meanwhile the flashing light is very helpful. I found out the flashing light doesn't happen when the fire button is pushed..it flashes afterwards. I HIGHLY doubt I'll be using RBAs on it. That is just not important to me. It's all about priorities..I just want something easy, fill, vape, and easily clean. I do NOT like to tinker and play around with things.
I would probably be just as content with my vari tube, however I do like the Provari's size, the rubberized outside, I also got the really neat design and not the straight lines. That's a plus. I also appreciate the feel of it and the quality and that it is made in America.
I hope this is helpful for those of you in my category of vaping
I also wanted to add..after getting my varitube..I have no plans to go back to c twists or kgos..the larger mods are so much better. I like the features, even I can figure them out. I like the idea of replacing the batteries not the entire device. I have ctwists as backups but for my every day vape it will continue to be the type that has replaceable batteries. They work really well!
I just realized the subject is mech mods! I am so sorry. I didn't mean to derail the topic. I was just so excited about being able to contribute.
I would probably be just as content with my vari tube, however I do like the Provari's size, the rubberized outside, I also got the really neat design and not the straight lines. That's a plus. I also appreciate the feel of it and the quality and that it is made in America.
I hope this is helpful for those of you in my category of vaping
I also wanted to add..after getting my varitube..I have no plans to go back to c twists or kgos..the larger mods are so much better. I like the features, even I can figure them out. I like the idea of replacing the batteries not the entire device. I have ctwists as backups but for my every day vape it will continue to be the type that has replaceable batteries. They work really well!
I just realized the subject is mech mods! I am so sorry. I didn't mean to derail the topic. I was just so excited about being able to contribute.
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My 2 cents here. The mech from a functionality perspective work better with sub ohm builds and the fact that for the most part are repairable without an EE degree. The rest is all form factor. A Pinto or a Mercedes will get you where you are going and a Casio or a Rolex will help you get there on time. Simply a matter of taste.
Personally, I have 3 or 4 mechanical clones. I'm still working on getting myself a genesis atomizer functioning well (and constantly hitting a wall) before I will ever decide to enter the big time of high end mechanical mods. The thing is with VV/VW mods like the Vamo, you can punch in your desired voltage or wattage. As the battery wears down, you will still get the same performance and can adjust the device according to the resistance of your atomizer.
With mechanical mods, you pretty much are at the mercy of the voltage of your batteries. When you put in a fresh 18650, you begin at 4.2 volts and work your way down to around 3.4ish volts. The way you can increase the power of your vape is by adjusting the resistance of your atomizer. Currently, you usually can only buy pre-made clearomizers/etc... around 1.8 ohms, maybe 1.5 ohms. By building your own atomizer, you can go lower, thus increasing the power of your vape even with the 'fixed' voltage of the mechanical mod.
Anyways, as far as high-end vs. low-end mechanicals, that is an entirely animal. China really has been picking up their game. However, with all mechanical mods and advanced users, it is more about the pride in being able to have the freedom to create your own equipment and allowing more freedom with vaping. Mechanical mods are not beginner items. Of course there are people that use pre-made clearos/cartos/whatever on their mechanicals, but you just need to know some basic safety stuff before using something that lacks the protection of egos/VV/VW mods.
With mechanical mods, you pretty much are at the mercy of the voltage of your batteries. When you put in a fresh 18650, you begin at 4.2 volts and work your way down to around 3.4ish volts. The way you can increase the power of your vape is by adjusting the resistance of your atomizer. Currently, you usually can only buy pre-made clearomizers/etc... around 1.8 ohms, maybe 1.5 ohms. By building your own atomizer, you can go lower, thus increasing the power of your vape even with the 'fixed' voltage of the mechanical mod.
Anyways, as far as high-end vs. low-end mechanicals, that is an entirely animal. China really has been picking up their game. However, with all mechanical mods and advanced users, it is more about the pride in being able to have the freedom to create your own equipment and allowing more freedom with vaping. Mechanical mods are not beginner items. Of course there are people that use pre-made clearos/cartos/whatever on their mechanicals, but you just need to know some basic safety stuff before using something that lacks the protection of egos/VV/VW mods.
Before I vaped, I smoked and collected hand made pipes. You can walk into most Walgreens and buy a Dr. Grabow pipe for about $25 so why would anyone want to buy a handmade pipe for $500? Simple: for the beauty of the thing and it's hand made artistry. A $500 pipe won't smoke 5 to 20 times more than a good smoking $25 pipe but it will hold it's value longer and be more perfect (or as perfect as a hand made thing can be.)
Vaping is no different. People buy high end mechs for one main reason: because they can and they appreciate them. Nothing at all wrong with that. I just sat down my Kayfun Lite and am now vaping a ProTank on a cheap X6. Both work wonderfully.
Vaping is no different. People buy high end mechs for one main reason: because they can and they appreciate them. Nothing at all wrong with that. I just sat down my Kayfun Lite and am now vaping a ProTank on a cheap X6. Both work wonderfully.
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I guess the high ends mods are more for aesthetic purposes and self fulfillment. Couldnt find a fault in that if you could afford them
^^ This exactly. Everytime I read one of these posts, it pretty much ends the same way....those who own high end mechs state the facts of quality build, customer service, etc.. and those who don't, justify reasons why a clone is just as good for a fraction of the price. IMO, it all comes down to what makes YOU happy, but also on what one can afford.
Let me ask this question: If someone could get a real GG for $40 or a Sigelei GG clone for $40, which would you choose? With that being said, now let's ask the reasons why they chose what they did.
My point is that; in the end, it all comes down to what one could afford.
Dayn83, you are correct. I am glad to see a newbie for once takes the time to reason with himself and try to be educated before spending hard earned cash. Well done.
The issue that is most common, is when people who buy high ends start discrediting clones and vice versa. These arguments are often primarily personal experience with very little analytical data and reasoning. There is nothing wrong with preferring high ends over clones or the other way around - as long as you understand 3 things: 1. why you buy what you buy, 2. why others bought what they bought, and most importantly, 3. mind your own darn business.
The issue that is most common, is when people who buy high ends start discrediting clones and vice versa. These arguments are often primarily personal experience with very little analytical data and reasoning. There is nothing wrong with preferring high ends over clones or the other way around - as long as you understand 3 things: 1. why you buy what you buy, 2. why others bought what they bought, and most importantly, 3. mind your own darn business.
For me, a lot of it is mind over matter.
I like having the more popular PVs, rather than having a sub-par unit that in the back of my mind, I know that there's better out there.
Why drive a Ford, when you can have the Mercedes?
I like having the more popular PVs, rather than having a sub-par unit that in the back of my mind, I know that there's better out there.
Why drive a Ford, when you can have the Mercedes?
Yep... If you're a bargain shopper like me... you could get away with knockoffs only if you have the know how and willingness to "tinker". Clones can be a great entry into the world of these types of products, but in the end, you'll prob end up getting the real deal at some point. Speaking as a fasttech customer, i have had to mod everything the've sent me (sans the innokin svd). Needless to say, i'll def be purchasing a zenisis mini!
yeah, i started with the sigelei 19b the nzonic clone, and tinkered with it for a bit (brass nut for + contact and silver sodder for - contact) then once i got pretty good at rebuilding my own coils and what not, decided to get something nicer. grabbed myself a nemmy and it's been great since
personally i think they are great works of art. design. craftsmanship. details. buttery threads. dont get me started on genesis tanks...
i think its awesome that modders can create beautiful pieces that are also functional. every modder has their own unique style influenced by their culture/background from all over the world. i hope to have a collection of mods from every modder. sigh. so expensive.
i think its awesome that modders can create beautiful pieces that are also functional. every modder has their own unique style influenced by their culture/background from all over the world. i hope to have a collection of mods from every modder. sigh. so expensive.
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It's like buying cheap or super expensive silver wear. Will the food taste better? No! But will the experience be better? Maby!
You can eat in a luxurious environment with nice platings, silver wear and good music or you can eat the same stuff on the living room table siting on the floor with plastic wear watching tv.
It's all about what you want.
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Just like watches, it's also about the setting.
Would I wear my Tag or vintage Tudor if I am working on the engine of my car? Not likely. I would be wearing a cheap Timex.
When I leave the house, I carry inexpensive devices such as eGo's and save the nice stuff for when I don't have to worry about damaging them.
Would I wear my Tag or vintage Tudor if I am working on the engine of my car? Not likely. I would be wearing a cheap Timex.
When I leave the house, I carry inexpensive devices such as eGo's and save the nice stuff for when I don't have to worry about damaging them.
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