Why are people still making E cigs when u can get some mods cheaper and perform waay better? I've never understood that. They're even making commercials with blu cigs and v2 cigs.
Whats the point of E-cigs when theres mods?
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do you think people are going to buy a poldiac without trying an ego or disposable first?
There are a lot of people out there who just would not be willing to buy something bigger than a cig a like. Don't forget, the vast majority of vapers are not hobbyists like us, they are people who want something they know and love and that means it looks like a cigarette. Then they get disappointed and this happens:
Standard vaping progression.
Standard vaping progression.
Excuse me, but there is no such thing as natural progression in vaping. I know plenty of veterans (4 and 5 years of vaping) who have tried everything and still use supermini batteries with cartomizers because they prefer them.
We are not all alike. APVs are not better or worse--they are only better for some people. For others, minis and vv eGos are far superior to any APV that looks like a car muffler and sports a blinking display of voltages and wattages.
The idea is to stop smoking and enjoy vaping. Whatever works for you and makes you feel comfortable and satisfied is the best PV in the world.
We are not all alike. APVs are not better or worse--they are only better for some people. For others, minis and vv eGos are far superior to any APV that looks like a car muffler and sports a blinking display of voltages and wattages.
The idea is to stop smoking and enjoy vaping. Whatever works for you and makes you feel comfortable and satisfied is the best PV in the world.
Some people are just okay with a smaller kit, like one with an Ego battery and a ce4 tank. My sister-in-law just UPGRADED to the Twist after two years with the Ego- T. It works for her. I, however, owned a provari within two weeks of using the ce-4/ego-t. Everyones different and needs/wants different things. the way people value form and function is important, too. most would agree that with an e-cig, function is of course most important, but some take in the form factor of form as well, and just cant get past things like the size on a mod.
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1 because some people don't want to spend a week's salary (or 2 weeks worth of cigs) only to find it doesn't work for them, some can only afford to buy their cigs from day to day.... A cig alike is a good thing to try to see if they like the concept.
2 many of the mods, to me, look like bedroom toys, and I for one am not about to suffer the sort of comments that would be thrown at a woman sucking on one of those in public....
3 there are actually people (eg. me) who don't need anything more than a basic set up to drop the cigs.
I have been a member since 2009 and have lapsed after my experiences with the early cig alikes. However, the quality is now so much better. I am using 2 tank/atomiser systems, the ecab at home or driving and the eroll for social situations, and I can honestly say that the quality of these for me, is so superior that I don't feel I have any need to progress any further, not even to vv etc.
They are simple systems, no leaks like the early tank systems I tried, enough TH for me, easy to refill and parts easily replaceable.
I have gone from more than a pack a day to 2 or 3 cigs a week, 3 puffs at a time, and I don't think it will be long before I drop those.
I'm not saying I will never progress to anything more advanced, but so far they have done what I wanted and that is to stop/slow down my enslavement to the burning tobacco. As such that is all I need, and I am saving a lot of money when cigs here are £9 a pack!
So, basically, you don't have to 'keep up with the Joneses', it's all about what works for the individual.
For any newbies, don't be persuaded that you must have the latest, greatest, try the starter kits that Baditude and others suggest, and progress if you need/want to, but if it's not a hobby you're after, and just a means to quit the analogues, then it may be you don't need anything more than a basic kit.
Just MHO, good luck everyone, whichever route you choose...
1 because some people don't want to spend a week's salary (or 2 weeks worth of cigs) only to find it doesn't work for them, some can only afford to buy their cigs from day to day.... A cig alike is a good thing to try to see if they like the concept.
2 many of the mods, to me, look like bedroom toys, and I for one am not about to suffer the sort of comments that would be thrown at a woman sucking on one of those in public....
3 there are actually people (eg. me) who don't need anything more than a basic set up to drop the cigs.
I have been a member since 2009 and have lapsed after my experiences with the early cig alikes. However, the quality is now so much better. I am using 2 tank/atomiser systems, the ecab at home or driving and the eroll for social situations, and I can honestly say that the quality of these for me, is so superior that I don't feel I have any need to progress any further, not even to vv etc.
They are simple systems, no leaks like the early tank systems I tried, enough TH for me, easy to refill and parts easily replaceable.
I have gone from more than a pack a day to 2 or 3 cigs a week, 3 puffs at a time, and I don't think it will be long before I drop those.
I'm not saying I will never progress to anything more advanced, but so far they have done what I wanted and that is to stop/slow down my enslavement to the burning tobacco. As such that is all I need, and I am saving a lot of money when cigs here are £9 a pack!
So, basically, you don't have to 'keep up with the Joneses', it's all about what works for the individual.
For any newbies, don't be persuaded that you must have the latest, greatest, try the starter kits that Baditude and others suggest, and progress if you need/want to, but if it's not a hobby you're after, and just a means to quit the analogues, then it may be you don't need anything more than a basic kit.
Just MHO, good luck everyone, whichever route you choose...
Katya, is your response to my post or to the OP?
EDIT: OK, reread it and I think you are referring to my post. I hear what you are saying and I've seen it happen too, but in my opinion those people are in the minority on ECF. I think the majority of ECFers go more or less the way of the video I linked to, unless they skip the cigalike stage altogether.
I do agree that wherever we end up all is good as long as we are not smoking
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I have mods but still use ecig at work so I dont freak people out with some huge device with liquid in it lol
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It's my response to the general proposition that if it's bigger, shinier, more expensive and has blinking LED lights galore (and cooks your dinner) it must be better. I happen to respectfully disagree. There is this hidden implication that everybody wants a mod (or at least should want one--if they know what's good for them) but they either can't afford it or "can't get over the size." Well, in my case, neither is true. I have used/tried several APVs, including a ProVari, and I do not like them. I have no need for 20-watt vaping and I don't want insane amounts of vapor to pollute my office or my room. I need the right amount of vapor and heat--and I can get it from my beloved Twists and Spinners. That's all I'm saying. And please don't get me wrong--that ProVari that a friend let me use for a couple of days was a thing of beauty--it's a great mod--but it just isn't my thing. I had it set at 4.4 volts most of the time, anyway.
And if you don't believe me (not you, Ryedan, but anybody reading this) just look at the popularity of the eRoll! When I first saw it I thought it was another toy for newbies. Now eRoll's thread here at ECF is 300+ pages long! People are loving that thing.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/joye-510/340059-joyetech-eroll-101.html#post8370338
Whatever works.
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its all personal preference
some people are happy driving a honda civic instead of a bmw... they both do the same thing essentially.
some people are happy driving a honda civic instead of a bmw... they both do the same thing essentially.
I know lots of vapers that still use their Kgo or Volt and have no need for a Mod. For myself at home I'll use my Mod but when out and about either a Spinner or Kgo. Some buy PVs/ Mods cuz they want to "add' to their collection and it's all good. I bought a VV/ VW Mod cuz I needed a stronger hit with the low mg juice I'm vaping. Same as my car- 13 years old, in mint condition, luxurious, comfortable and runs like new. Could easily afford a new car but wife and I are very happy with the present one and, most importantly, it fills our needs.
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The purpose of the electronic cigarette is to either cut down on the number of tobacco cigarettes that a person smokes or to stop altogether. The cigalike gives the look, feel and satisfies nicotine cravings enough to replace that deadly habit. Improved health, no more bad smells or secondhand smoke are the benefits.
The larger batteries, mods and clearo's may be added later but is not necessary to achieve the main goal... to stop doing something that you know for sure will kill you.
Good luck to you and happy vaping with whatever device or setup you decide to get.
Added article of interest from another thread:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-smoking-discussion/404689-article-about-e-cigarettes-metro-newspaper.html
The larger batteries, mods and clearo's may be added later but is not necessary to achieve the main goal... to stop doing something that you know for sure will kill you.
Good luck to you and happy vaping with whatever device or setup you decide to get.
Added article of interest from another thread:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-smoking-discussion/404689-article-about-e-cigarettes-metro-newspaper.html
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I've been vaping for over four years and started with the 510 cig looking kits, then went to the ego 900mah mod kits right when they came out. But I have just recently picked up a couple mods, Zmax and GLV. I can't believe how much better these mods are for nicotine delivery. I'm thinking they deliver so much more vapor and that vapor is delivering more nicotine? I have cut my nicotine from 36mg back down to 8mg in just a couple weeks.
I started with Smokeless Image Volt cigarette-sized batteries. They were able to get me off of cigarettes. At the time I began vaping, I felt I needed my gear to look and be the size of a cigarette, and no one could tell me different. I understand why people think that way, so when beginners express that expectation I comply with the appropriate recommendation of a good e-cig setup like the Volts.
I'll also advise that beginner about the likelihood that they will probably need to advance to a bigger battery device eventually, and they can choose to skip the smaller batteries and start right off with a eGo setup or even a mod if they are comfortable with the larger size. If not, I drop the idea and have them go with what they are most comfortable with.
In my own case, after about 3 weeks in I started investigating for something "better" than I had. I wanted longer battery time. I also wanted more variety and larger juice delivery devices than cartomizers or clearomizers. To get that I needed a larger PV that used replaceable batteries.
Some people don't have the need or desire to "advance" to larger vaping devices and are perfectly content to vape on the cigalikes. Many vapors would not be vaping today if they had to use a flashlight sized contraption to begin with. Whatever it takes to start out vaping and to get off of the cigarettes is all that is really needed. Each individual's expectations and needs must be considered before just recommending a Provari to every person considering an e-cigarette to quit smoking.
I'll also advise that beginner about the likelihood that they will probably need to advance to a bigger battery device eventually, and they can choose to skip the smaller batteries and start right off with a eGo setup or even a mod if they are comfortable with the larger size. If not, I drop the idea and have them go with what they are most comfortable with.
In my own case, after about 3 weeks in I started investigating for something "better" than I had. I wanted longer battery time. I also wanted more variety and larger juice delivery devices than cartomizers or clearomizers. To get that I needed a larger PV that used replaceable batteries.
Some people don't have the need or desire to "advance" to larger vaping devices and are perfectly content to vape on the cigalikes. Many vapors would not be vaping today if they had to use a flashlight sized contraption to begin with. Whatever it takes to start out vaping and to get off of the cigarettes is all that is really needed. Each individual's expectations and needs must be considered before just recommending a Provari to every person considering an e-cigarette to quit smoking.
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In my case, I wasn't so much concerned with whether it looked like a cigarette or not. I just wanted to make sure that ecigs would work for me before I invested in pricier setups. I used my eGo Joyes for two months before I took the jump into a Provari and a Lambo. I wanted to not have to fiddle so much with charging batteries throughout the day.
All three are in use on a daily basis with different flavors to avoid having my taste buds go dormant with just one flavor.
All three are in use on a daily basis with different flavors to avoid having my taste buds go dormant with just one flavor.
I like 'em all. To me, they all have their own purpose. I also started with a Volt kit. Yes, I have moved on to other things ... a couple eGos, a couple vv/vw mods, Vivi Novas, carto tanks, a new Protank (which I love by the way); but I still love and carry my Volt with a CE3 when out and about. For one, it garners less stares. Two, it is SO portable. I can throw two or three batteries and two or three CE3s of different flavors in an old pill bottle and toss it in my purse. Three, if someone swipes it or I accidentally drop it off the side of a mountain while hiking, I'm not out much.
Everything out there has its place. It's up to each individual to find out what works for them in various situations. That's the beauty of having all these choices. We truly are in the golden age of vaping.
Everything out there has its place. It's up to each individual to find out what works for them in various situations. That's the beauty of having all these choices. We truly are in the golden age of vaping.
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