zen said in a pbusardo video that everybody's little secret is the carto tank they carry when they go to work. im one of them but i don't keep it a secret. i proudly carry a spinner with a carto tank in my pocket. when i get home is genesis time. ECF as big as it is, is in fact just a portion of the vaping community. most of the people are not as hardcore as we are about mods and the perfect vape or flavor in that perfect ohm/volt ratio. i think the majority of ppl are vaping the smaller cig like devices.
Whats the point of E-cigs when theres mods?
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Personally, I think it's just cause they are trying to grab the mass market. My cousin paid $80 for a ''starter'' kit that included two 600mah eGo battrries, two tank attys, a set of tanks and a single charger. I told her she was crazy because I paid $20 for my eGo passthrough, $10 for a rebuildable atty and $5 for a drip tip. Now I know I can get much more for about the same price that she paid, but in the beginning, you don't know that.
I mentioned this in another thread. Users seem to pick up a cigalike from their local gas station or supermarker because that's all that is available !. If something like those cheap ego kits you find in online sites, you know the ones with a clearo and charger which are vacuum packed, were available in the places where cigalikes can usually be found then people might stick with it. I think some smokers don't get the satisfaction they expected from a cigalike so they go back to smoking. So why do people use cigalikes instead of a mod ?, because they haven't seen any ego's or mods in the gas station.
people are inherently lazy. especially old guys like me. we think about the amount of work involved with any undertaking. if there is even any threat of something not working, we will choose the easier path every time. the ecigs are the first thing we associate with smoking, so as smokers we think they represent the best option for us to quit. as i found out?, big mistake. fell on my face and spent an unnecessary year smoking that i did not have to. either way they provided the vehicle for me to make the switch a year later without having planned on it. till the end of time, or at least for the next 2 generations(until tobacco is obsolete). they will provide the vehicle for thousands more to quit. as long as we point new vapers to websites like these to help them make the journey we are all taking now.
Wow, you have to love people who can only see things their way.
MODS started because of the lack of good equipment and reasonable prices. I have to say things are changing. The need for MODs has diminished greatly.There are many mass produced vaping units that perform on par with MODS, and are a great deal smaller. Most people don't want to fiddle with equipment. They also don't want to be seen vaping a peace pipe in public. They want to buy and vape no thinking required.
Its all about personal preference. I not saying MODs are bad, different people like different things.
Oh and with my eroll or similar size unit I will have something most MODs will never have.......Look no hands......
MODS started because of the lack of good equipment and reasonable prices. I have to say things are changing. The need for MODs has diminished greatly.There are many mass produced vaping units that perform on par with MODS, and are a great deal smaller. Most people don't want to fiddle with equipment. They also don't want to be seen vaping a peace pipe in public. They want to buy and vape no thinking required.
Its all about personal preference. I not saying MODs are bad, different people like different things.
Oh and with my eroll or similar size unit I will have something most MODs will never have.......Look no hands......
Not sure what you are getting at here. I see most of these posts as testimonials of how people evolved with their equipment and why.
Which is why I generally use the terrm "APV" or Advanced Personal Vaporizers. Which loosely refers to a e-cig type device that utilizes a removable rechargeable battery and may or may not have variable voltage and/or wattage. Call me crazy but I always thought the word "mod" was a reference to "modification" or "modified" (i.e. from the cig-a-like style e-cig using objects such as flashlights to create a new device.). Guess MOD means something else...anyone want to enlighten this Grasshopper what the M the O and the D stand for?
Some people love to fiddle. The more fiddling, the happier they are. But I do agree that's probably not the majority. As for the "peace pipe in public"...yeah. Probably that's the case. For most people. At first. Then after awhile, some put more value on their vaping experience than they do the opinions of other people and come to not give a rip what it "looks" like.
Yep.
That's funny. But I never was a "hands free" smoker (unless forced to in situation of no choice) so I never was a "hands free" vaper, even with the small Volts and V2s. Not something I put value on , for myself personally. What I DID want was something that would not require frequent charging, would carry a lot of juice at one time, and required a minimum of worry and fuss..yet be small, preferably not a tube shape, a be nice looking (Indulging my vanity. Yeah, okay.... I'm a girl). I do have a couple of "pipe bombs" for the Vapocalypse ...but I wouldn't consider them my top choice for all day vaping.
The one thing I emphatically agree with is that it's all personal preference. And by exploring places like ECF , we're the lucky ones who get to find out about possibilities available (and be inspired to dream up a few ideas)...and because of our numbers, we create a demand so manufacturers will create the things we want.
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I used a kr808 for a year, upgraded to an ego-t for a year before ever buying a mod. It was after I realized I had stopped smoking, and vaped for enjoyment that this became a hobby to me instead of a habit.
I have several friends that still use the same kr808 they started with. They don't smoke, they just use the tiny auto-bats because they don't like explaining to people what they're doing. Just like to enjoy it. Of course I live in a tiny town where vaping isn't really well known, so my experiences are different from others.
I have several friends that still use the same kr808 they started with. They don't smoke, they just use the tiny auto-bats because they don't like explaining to people what they're doing. Just like to enjoy it. Of course I live in a tiny town where vaping isn't really well known, so my experiences are different from others.
I love my APV. Hands free? Nope, thanks to the vaping powers that be. Spent hundreds of dollars a few years ago exploring the "cig-a-likes" and learned some expensive lessons.
A peace pipe out in public? I generally carry a Spinner out in public for it's smaller size and lighter weight but have no problem carrying my APV too, if it's superior performance is what I am desiring at the time. In a culture that has pretty much ostracized cigarette smoking anyway I don't think I get any more of a hostile look whipping out my chromed up light saber for a quick puff or two than I did when I was still actually smoking the filthy things... AND the APV has helped to stir up interest, including a new convert here or there, that the stealthy little automatic money monsters simply don't do.
Each to their own though. As long as you aren't smoking "real" cigarettes as well then more power to you, I say!
A peace pipe out in public? I generally carry a Spinner out in public for it's smaller size and lighter weight but have no problem carrying my APV too, if it's superior performance is what I am desiring at the time. In a culture that has pretty much ostracized cigarette smoking anyway I don't think I get any more of a hostile look whipping out my chromed up light saber for a quick puff or two than I did when I was still actually smoking the filthy things... AND the APV has helped to stir up interest, including a new convert here or there, that the stealthy little automatic money monsters simply don't do.
Each to their own though. As long as you aren't smoking "real" cigarettes as well then more power to you, I say!
Excuse me, but there is no such thing as natural progression in vaping. I know plenty of veterans (4 and 5 years of vaping) who have tried everything and still use supermini batteries with cartomizers because they prefer them.
We are not all alike. APVs are not better or worse--they are only better for some people. For others, minis and vv eGos are far superior to any APV that looks like a car muffler and sports a blinking display of voltages and wattages.
The idea is to stop smoking and enjoy vaping. Whatever works for you and makes you feel comfortable and satisfied is the best PV in the world.
Perfectly stated.
...I'm not sure if it's classed as a cigalike, maybe should be called an ACAL (Advanced Cig A Like)
That's avant-garde!
Thanks for coining that... I'd like to use it and refer my eRolls that way hereon, may I?
Its not just girls that like a nice looking device: in fact many mod users buy their mods with looks in mind.
I still use all classes of PVs, daily. I would even go as far as saying cigalikes and eGo class are far more important than advanced mods: if you think about it, mods are simply a natural extension of the above classes to the hobbyist market. So to the community as a whole and also to smokers looking to transition, cheaper and easier to use devices are irreplaceable.
I still use all classes of PVs, daily. I would even go as far as saying cigalikes and eGo class are far more important than advanced mods: if you think about it, mods are simply a natural extension of the above classes to the hobbyist market. So to the community as a whole and also to smokers looking to transition, cheaper and easier to use devices are irreplaceable.
The title of the thread is "what's the point of Ecigs when there is mods". My point was that the author sees things only his way, that ecigs are pointless, which I do not believe is true.
this has been an interesting thread. i don't think it will become a hobby for us...we are happy with whatever keeps us off the stinkies! loving vaping.
also keep in mind that most people my age treat their computers like the bubonic plague.utterly terrified of them. the idea of buying something online with their credit card? are you kidding me? don't you watch fox news?.
fear is wonderful, but you miss out on all the cool stuff like eBay, amazon, ect. it is all about taking a chance, having faith, and not freaking out when something bad happens. you can't imagine how much gas and legwork my computer has saved me. sometimes i get burned, but you live and learn from mistakes.
Some people don't like all the added attention so they get something that is a cig-a-like. There are also people that were VERY light smokers and don't need much vape and they just don't like the learning curve.
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