This is exactly where I'm at now. Just a small wick coming out either side of the coil and going down into the well. I kind of bunch it up under the coil area so it really wicks straight up. Works great.
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This is exactly where I'm at now. Just a small wick coming out either side of the coil and going down into the well. I kind of bunch it up under the coil area so it really wicks straight up. Works great.
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Running the Veritas at 0.9ohms with a muji cotton wick dangling from the ends of the coil to the deck. No bed. AFC half closed, 8mm -6?mm wide bore drip tip. Loving it. Its a very different vape than the KFL, but great in its own right. Still rockin it on a mech. Thanks again guys
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Running the Veritas at 0.9ohms with a muji cotton wick dangling from the ends of the coil to the deck. No bed. AFC half closed, 8mm -6?mm wide bore drip tip. Loving it. Its a very different vape than the KFL, but great in its own right. Still rockin it on a mech. Thanks again guys
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I've kinda gone the route of modifying an rda with a large cavity of empty space. I'm a low cost vaper, trying to buy lower cost mech mods and RDAs that don't cost a fortune (like the bolt with an octopus for instance). My rationale is I'm a bit of a cheap bas**rd and my family spends all of my money anyway.
I've tinkered around on closing off some of the "air space" on a couple of RDAs using various materials (everything from wood to plastic, etc). It is a bit of a crap shoot. I'm currently using a nimbus which is pretty open, I did get better vapor and flavor when I blocked off some of the space, but I also seemed to get a bit more heat too. I usually go with 28ga or 29ga single coil or dual coil, sticking right around 1 ohm either way. This might be an option for your veritas or for other airy attys.
I've tinkered around on closing off some of the "air space" on a couple of RDAs using various materials (everything from wood to plastic, etc). It is a bit of a crap shoot. I'm currently using a nimbus which is pretty open, I did get better vapor and flavor when I blocked off some of the space, but I also seemed to get a bit more heat too. I usually go with 28ga or 29ga single coil or dual coil, sticking right around 1 ohm either way. This might be an option for your veritas or for other airy attys.
I was also thinking along these lines. I have some garrolite kicking around... I may look into this. The hard part on the veritas is the center post. It sticks up a good bit, so any filler material would have to be shaped with a good degree of precision. A great project idea though.
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If you're not getting better flavor from the Veritas than the KF then something's very wrong. The Veritas is an excellent atty for flavor, some consider it the best. Check out this video, he does a build that's not too radical and I think it will help you get much better results.
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You really started out with a tough atty, to build, for someone new to these devices. You can get a Mephisto clone for around 15 bucks that's simple to build and produces excellent flavor. I don't disagree with the Magma nor the Quasar, I just think the Mephisto is a great atty and absolutely simple to build. Here's a link for the Mephisto
Mephisto Atomizer Clone - 101 Vape
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You really started out with a tough atty, to build, for someone new to these devices. You can get a Mephisto clone for around 15 bucks that's simple to build and produces excellent flavor. I don't disagree with the Magma nor the Quasar, I just think the Mephisto is a great atty and absolutely simple to build. Here's a link for the Mephisto
Mephisto Atomizer Clone - 101 Vape
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I am still struggling with the KFL after 2 month I bought a magma an had no probems after the first 15 minuts. The KFL IMHO is poorly engineered. The magma on the other hand is a wrok of art and the have similiar flavor profiles (they are both flavor monsters.)
Everyone says that about the Kayfun so I may have a defective one. I ordered a new one today.
As a steam engineer, I can tell you that this is actually a great tank design. I have a Svoemesto. In my opinion, don't bother with clones. Its flavor is excellent, and not something you need to work hard to get.
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I've tried numerous builds on this thing, ranging from 1.5 to 0.7 single and dual, using 30, 28, & 26 gauge kanthal, different wicking scenarios, et cetera ad nauseum, and its still just 'meh'. Flavor is good, just light. Clouds are bigger (not actually a pro or con), juice consumption is unreasonably quick.
I'm not knocking the atty , I'm just wondering how it could come anywhere near the flavor of a KF when all of the design elements that enhance the flavor of the KF aren't present in the Veritas.
Enjoying it at 1.3 ohm single 28g with a kick set to 15w. Again, not exactly "great" compared to the kayfun, but certainly not bad either.
The relative difficulty is arbitrary.
I will continue to work at it, but so far, for me, at this stage of my Vaping career.... Its just "meh".
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Just know that wicking technique is everything. Your wick can make or break this design.
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Steam Engineer, eh? I'm a ChE and studies steam tables tell I was blue in the face. What is it about the Svoemesto makes it superior to the clones. I have long suspected there is something there but have never compared them side by side.
You may have gotten a crappy clone. I have the original KFL authentic and 2 EHPro V1 and 2. They're all very good and although I'm glad I got an authentic the clones vape just as good.
From what I've seen, the clones don't include proper sizing of the juice channels to allow proper flow during pressure drop inside the mixing/ "atomizing" chamber. The thing about the authentic is that #1- machining is top notch. Perfect. As in buttery smooth. Everything seals perfectly. #2 the actual ratio of outside air to vapor is ideal. Think: perfect combustion from an oil gun.#3 The clones I've seen needed to be modified to allow more juice in to decrease dry hits. Not so on the authentic.
When your wicks are well done, the ends should not cover the feed ports, and the resulting profile of the wick through the coil should be 'M' shaped to allow the coil area to stay saturated. The vapor "signature" will be 'V' shaped when you test fire the coils with the chamber attached. Slight adjustments with a pick will drastically change its signature.
The KFL+'s tight draw is necessary to create adequate pressure drop when drawing outside air through the 1/16" intake port from a ~4mm orifice and draw just enough juice from the storage tank/vacuum chamber to the ends of the wicks.
The mixing chamber's small size allows for maximum flavor production when using a 1.5- 2ohm coil (svoemesto's suggestion) by attemperating and mixing vapor and OA as the flow is choked off in the 2nd venturi area people call the "chimney."
Deviations in any of these areas will greatly affect how the device operates.
Svoemesto ENGINEERED this. The clones (regardless of the moral/ethical stuff) are quite literally cheap copies - sometimes made from pictures.
? Sold yet?
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In the spirit of interdepartmental comraderie, I give this joke:
Two guys walk into a bar. The first guy says: " I'll have an H2O". The second guy says: "I'll have an H2O too." The second guy dies.
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I did a little "modeling" using some play dough and saran wrap to work out the fit around my posts, basically I wrapped the clay real loose in the plastic, popped it into the top cap and put it all together. The posts indented the clay so I could use that as a basic template for the insert
Sweet!!! Can't wait to see the final product! I'm still searching for that garrolite. I may just need to order some delrin. Keep me posted!
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I'm not sure where you get your info from but I have to disagree with you. Clones can be good, bad or in between just as originals. In the case of the KFL there are a ton of good clones. I personally don't care for most EHpro products but they nailed the Kayfun. Infinite makes a very good KFL too. At this point, unless you have moral objections to buying a clone, save your money and buy a KFL V2 from EHpro.
Fair enough, I really don't want to argue, especially b/c my thread is about rdas. I still say get the real deal.
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Fatdaddy vapes has delrin blanks. I'll be ordering a couple to see what I can come up with.
Did you modify the air flow at all? I was thinking of using an oil gun from a boiler as a template for how to shape the insert. I want a mixing/swirling chamber and I want tangential "nozzles" to impart the swirling motion.
Using the blanks should actually be pretty easy, even including an O-ring channel around the circumference to seal the thing into the top cap...
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