What's under your lip/in your nose right now?

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AllCoExPat

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Oh that's right Allco. How could I have forgotten that we're killing the children by snusing and not blowing smoke in their faces. How careless of me. If you didn't see it yet, check out the " last chance to order stonewalls" thread.

I saw that earlier. Still trying to figure out if the injunction applies to PACT across the board or just to the specific retailer like the e-juice injunction applied only to the "big 2" vendors who filed for relief.
 

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Hang in there Wiz. I'll be rooting for you. You know I'll be in the emerald city checking on you. 48mg huh? I never went that high. I stopped at 36mg but do have a bottle of 100mg on the way. I wonder if anyone has ever dripped a drop or two of that to try before.

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Hitt.......I'm glad you have my back:)...but I would never vape anything stronger than 48mg straight....Hope you won't try that yourself!!!

How long will the torture last, Wiz?
Courage, friend!

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At least 6 months C! Once I have re-enrolled for my insurance for 2011 I will be "Up to Snuff" once more!!:)

Good luck, Wiz! You've already shown more determination than I could muster! :)
Thanks AllCo.......Still being able to vape helps with the determination!!..LOL!

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At least 6 months C! Once I have re-enrolled for my insurance for 2011 I will be "Up to Snuff" once more!!:)
48mg Menthol
Coffee
Dreams of 6 months from now

:)The Wiz!

I do hope this will not be an annual occurrence, Wizzie!
More courage!

Dekang Tobacco 24
No snus
Trace of Steradent
Off to dentist for post op check.

:)

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Good morning all. Slow doesn't begin to describe how things are going here today. Literally quiet enough in the office to hear someone typing on the other side of the room. I'm beginning to think I should have followed suit and taken a vacation day today. Ah well, it'll be all over in a few hours. All the empty cobs have me being a little more adventurous with my PV than usual, though, so it's not all wasted time!

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Afternoon all,
Still taking care of summer things.................sigh.......seems it never ends.

Wiz, I found something interesting abt the oral swab nicotine test, but it still leaves some questions.
"The test administered to you (usually an oral swab test) only tests for enzymes produces (and/or killed) through the smoking process. it doesn't test for “tobacco”. btw, the test also looks for hardcore narcotics and HIV."
Ok, that's fine, but would nasal snuff or snus do the same thing by releasing compounds in the saliva being from whole tobacco, or are the components from the combustion process? I can't find anymore out. The regular "nicotine test" would find nic from vaping as it looks for cotinine and that will be present from smoking or vaping as its a breakdown product of nicotine regardless of the source. So, they cant be using that if they allow vaping as they couldn't tell the diff.
Best I can do for now my friend.

Animals off to the vet for their yearly.

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I do hope this will not be an annual occurrence, Wizzie!
More courage!

Dekang Tobacco 24
No snus
Trace of Steradent
Off to dentist for post op check.

:)

C.
I fear it may be C! 6 months on/6 months off.......I will just have to "work the system"

36mg PS Menthol
coffee
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:)The Wiz!
 

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Afternoon all,
Still taking care of summer things.................sigh.......seems it never ends.

Wiz, I found something interesting abt the oral swab nicotine test, but it still leaves some questions.
"The test administered to you (usually an oral swab test) only tests for enzymes produces (and/or killed) through the smoking process. it doesn't test for “tobacco”. btw, the test also looks for hardcore narcotics and HIV."
Ok, that's fine, but would nasal snuff or snus do the same thing by releasing compounds in the saliva being from whole tobacco, or are the components from the combustion process? I can't find anymore out. The regular "nicotine test" would find nic from vaping as it looks for cotinine and that will be present from smoking or vaping as its a breakdown product of nicotine regardless of the source. So, they cant be using that if they allow vaping as they couldn't tell the diff.
Best I can do for now my friend.

Animals off to the vet for their yearly.

Thunder Frosted
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Lemon Water
Nice find Vaporer!! If the area I highlighted was the case then I would have no worries...Certainly no combustion from my end!

Keep me posted if you find anything else!
Thanks!

Good info V. I was hoping that Wiz could find a way to snuff still. I don't know alot about the testing end of it but did not understand how they could tell the difference between vaping and snuff when they test him.
Thats If they test us Hitt.......As far as I know it's still just answering yes or no to whether you have used tobacco products within the previous 6 month period!

The one time I would really like to tell a fib!!...Sheesh!!

:)The Wiz!
 

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    I totally understand Wiz. It would be easy to fib on paper but if they actually did have a test to tell the difference then I'm not sure what they would do. The difference in premium must be substantial for you to go thru this. Wiz you are not only a member but the President of the Snuff Club.

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    They're dropping like flies around here hitt. Every time I look around there are a couple fewer people here. I'll be looking to make a break for it myself in another five or ten minutes. The last email to hit my inbox is time stamped before noon, so I think it's safe to say that we've reached the critical mass point where absolutely nothing else will get done today.

    For those of you who will be off the interwebs for the next few days, stay safe and have a happy Independence Day! :)
     

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    I totally understand Wiz. It would be easy to fib on paper but if they actually did have a test to tell the difference then I'm not sure what they would do. The difference in premium must be substantial for you to go thru this. Wiz you are not only a member but the President of the Snuff Club.

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    Hitt.....Last i heard it would be a $20 per two weeks max hike on my insurance(or $40 a month)That still buys alot of juice..LOL! Some folks at work(smokers) didn't even blink when they heard the amount.

    As for my Presidential snuff responsibilities....I would have to share those with OTD...and Tropical Bob...He was the one who helped me get started with snuff last year!

    :)The Wiz!
     

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    They're dropping like flies around here hitt. Every time I look around there are a couple fewer people here. I'll be looking to make a break for it myself in another five or ten minutes. The last email to hit my inbox is time stamped before noon, so I think it's safe to say that we've reached the critical mass point where absolutely nothing else will get done today.

    For those of you who will be off the interwebs for the next few days, stay safe and have a happy Independence Day! :)
    Going to be like a "Ghost Town" around here the next few days AllCo.....Same thing happened last year!!

    Have a great holiday weekend everyone!! Be safe!
    :)The Wiz!
     

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    Well Wiz you're gonna have to cover for OTD. He's on vacation from the forums for a while. I spoke with him thru email a week or so ago and he is doing well. I was thinking TB could be the Grand Pubah. I have to admit Wiz, for $40 a month I would probably stop snuffing for a while but I would pay it to continue snus. Don't worry I'll be around this weekend keeping an eye on things. If I can get bored, I can just start answering my own posts. I can carry on a pretty good conversation with myself.

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