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    Good morning. Well it's Friday again and I am looking forward to the three day weekend. I am thinking about firing up the smoker this weekend. I am thinking about cooking a pork .... so I can make pulled pork sandwiches. I usually always do ribs or brisket so this would be something new for me. I was watching some videos online last night on Carolina barbecue.

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    roth : anything is possible. if lightning had hit the car , it (usually) goes for metal , and cooks a lot of wiring and is usually not good for the computers , etc.


    when they say corrosion isnt covered under warranty , that means rust , etc . In the sense of a wiper motor being corroded , its their problem , because that is considered body/electrical and if there is corrosion on the contacts its because they didnt put die-electric grease in there on assembly. corrosion happens like this because of dissimilar metals. much like an aluminum wheel can weld itself to a hub. i would definitely go higher up on this , because this is an interior item , and should not have any corrosion at all. if it does , then it either got wet , or is a bad design.

    i found one tsb for 05 escape 4wd 3.0 (iirc) motor. Im not sure what year/model yours is , but heres the info. Let me know the exact model/year/motor if you want me to check on a more exact tsb but this covers a couple different production runs throughout the years. Here's the tsb...

    sorry , its long , but i think you should talk to them about a faulty grid line , that may have localized enough heat combined with the pressure from the wiper , caused the glass to shatter. Definitely dont let them tell you it's not their problem. call corporate if your service writer gives you any crap...

    -----tsb start here----sorry its long...
    TSB 04-24-5
    TSB 04-24-5
    12/13/04
    REAR WINDOW DEFROSTER GRID/INTEGRAL
    ANTENNA DIAGNOSIS AND REPAIR - TERMINAL TAB
    REPAIR FORD:
    1999-2000 Contour
    1999-2002 Escort
    1999-2003 Escort ZX2
    1999-2005 Crown Victoria, Mustang, Taurus
    2000-2005 Focus
    2005 Five Hundred, Freestyle
    1999-2003 Windstar
    1999-2005 Expedition, Explorer
    2000-2005 Excursion
    2001-2003 Explorer Sport
    2001-2005 Escape
    2004-2005 F-150, Freestar
    2005 Escape Hybrid LINCOLN:
    1999-2002 Continental
    1999-2005 Town Car
    2000-2005 LS
    1999-2005 Navigator
    2002-2003 Blackwood
    2003-2005 Aviator MERCURY:
    1999 Tracer
    1999-2000 Mystique
    1999-2005 and Marquis, Sable
    2005 Montego
    1999-2002 Villager
    1999-2005 Mountaineer
    2004-2005 Monterey
    2005 Mariner This article supersedes TSB 04-18-9 to update vehicle applications and service procedure.
    ISSUE
    Some vehicles may exhibit inoperative electric rear window defroster (heated back lite) grid lines, integral antenna concerns causing radio reception issues or terminal tabs pulled from the rear window glass. ACTION
    Follow the diagnostic and repair procedures included in this article to inspect and service rear defroster grid lines, integral antenna concerns or broken terminal tabs. SERVICE PROCEDURE
    Warrantable/Non Warrantable repairs
    Warrantable grid line repairs typically can be identified by one inoperative grid line with a small discoloration at the area of concern, approximately the size of a pinhead. Grid line(s) that are scratched or have the silver material removed are not warrantable and should be addressed with the customer. Replacement of backglass for grid line or bus bar tarnishing is not a warrantable repair. Tarnishing of the silver lines or bus bars is a normal condition. Please refer to the Heated Back Lite Damageability Job Aid for additional information and examples of defects and damage.
    NOTE THE GRID LINE MATERIAL IS NOT EMBEDDED INTO THE GLASS BUT IS BAKED TO THE GLASS SURFACE AND CONSEQUENTLY CAN BE SCRAPED OFF. INOPERATIVE LINES MAY APPEAR TO THE EYE TO BE UNDAMAGED DUE TO RESIDUE REMAINING ON THE GLASS AND WILL REQUIRE DIAGNOSIS WITH A VOLTMETER OR 12V TEST LAMP AS EXPLAINED IN THIS ARTICLE. Examples Of Non-Warrantable Grid Line Damage
    ^ Ice scraper damage to grid lines ^ Animal scratches on grid lines ^ Window tint film/removal of the film which damages grid lines ^ Stickers placed over grids which upon removal, removes the grid line material ^ License plate (steel type placed against the inside of back glass) which rubs on the grid line causing damage ^ Temporary license plate (paper stuck on to the inside of the back glass) which upon removal removes grid line material ^ Cargo or lumber rubbing against the glass which removes grid line material ^ Cellular phone antenna installation/removal which damages grid line material NOTE AN UNDAMAGED GRIDLINE WILL HAVE SMALL RIDGES THAT PROJECT ABOVE THE SURFACE OF THE GLASS AND CAN EASILY BE FELT WHEN RUNNING A FINGERNAIL ACROSS THEM. GRIDLINES THAT HAVE BEEN "RAZOR BLADED" WILL FEEL SMOOTH WHEN A FINGERNAIL IS DRAGGED ACROSS THE AFFECTED AREA. THERE MAY BE SOME RESIDUE LEFT ON THE GLASS THAT APPEARS TO BE GRID MATERIAL BUT A CHECK WITH A VOLTMETER OR 12V TEST LAMP, AS EXPLAINED IN THIS ARTICLE, WILL CONFIRM AN OPEN CIRCUIT.
    GRID LINE INOPERATIVE - DIAGNOSTICS
    1. Reference Workshop Manual Section 501-11 and the Wiring Diagram Section 56 to verify power and ground to the back-glass. 2. Connect a test lamp or DVOM to a good body ground. 3. Turn the ignition key to the run position and depress and release the rear defroster button to turn the system on. THE GRID IS ENERGIZED FOR APPROXIMATELY 10 MINUTES EACH TIME THE DEFROSTER BUTTON IS PRESSED. 4. Starting from the top grid line at the center of the back-glass, touch the test lamp or DVOM + lead to each grid line. (Use caution not to damage grid lines). The DVOM should read approximately 1/2 of the battery voltage on each line at the center of the back-glass. If using a test light, the bulb should be approximately the same brightness on each line from top to bottom. If the DVOM or light indicates a high voltage or no voltage on any grid line, move along the concern grid line with the + test lead or test lamp until the voltage changes suddenly. This is the area of concern, use chalk to mark the area of concern and mark the outside of the glass at that same area. 5. Repair per the Grid Line Repair Procedure. GRID LINE REPAIR PROCEDURE
    NOTE LONG GAPS ARE ALMOST ALWAYS DUE TO DAMAGE AND ARE NOT WARRANTABLE, HOWEVER THEY CAN BE REPAIRED. THE LONGER THE GAP THE MORE IMPORTANT IT IS TO APPLY A MINIMUM SIX (6) COATS OF CONDUCTIVE REPAIR MATERIAL WITH THE FIVE (5) MINUTE DRY TIME BETWEEN EACH COAT. APPLYING LESS COATS OR NOT ALLOWING DRY TIME BETWEEN COATS WILL PRODUCE REPAIRED RESISTANCE THAT IS GREATER THAN OEM RESISTANCE, RESULTING IN POOR DEFROST PERFORMANCE AND EXCESSIVE LOCALIZED HEATING. REPAIRED LONG GAPS ARE GENERALLY NOT VISUALLY PLEASING UNLESS EXTREME CARE IS TAKEN WHEN TAPING AFFECTED GRID LINE AREAS. NOTE IF THE BROWN COLOR UNDER THE GRID LINE IS DAMAGED OR MISSING (THIS IS VERY RARE), IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO APPLY BROWN ACRYLIC LACQUER TOUCH-UP PAINT FOR COLOR MATCH. THIS PAINT MUST MEET SPECIFICATION ESR-M2P100-C AND SHOULD BE APPLIED TO THE GLASS PRIOR TO APPLYING THE REAR WINDOW DEFROSTER REPAIR COMPOUND.




    theres a bunch of repair info here...


    Parts Block
    WARRANTY STATUS: Eligible Under Provisions Of New Vehicle Limited Warranty Coverage
    OPERATION DESCRIPTION TIME

    042405A Repair Grid Lines (Includes 0.7 Hr.
    Time To Diagnose And
    Recheck)

    042405B Replace Terminal (Includes 0.4 Hr.
    Time To Diagnose And
    Recheck)

    042405C Repair Grid Lines And 0.8 Hr.
    Replace Terminal (Includes
    Time To Diagnose And
    Recheck) DEALER CODING CONDITION
    BASIC PART NO. CODE
    7042006 28
    -----------------------end-----------------------


    Like i said , this is interior/electrical which is covered under most warranties , where corrosion/rust is never EVER covered.




    Anyways , getting back to work with
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    sorry to add to that , but there are TSB's that may have caused the "corrosion" if it was infact part of the issue...

    TSB 05-8-3 -----05/02/05 This is for a sagging rear headliner. If there are issues with the headline , there may have been an issue with your seal around the hatch that may have allowed water in. if your headliner looks like it ever got wet back there , thats a sure sign that they are the ones that need to bend over...



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    Good evening. Just sitting around doing a whole lot of nothing tonight. That is except pissing off the wife. She was already grumpy because the youngest had a doctor's appt. today and threw a big fit because she had to get a shot. It was a well child check up and she was due for a shot. Oh well. Maybe it'll be better tomorrow. Laying low with

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    Afternoon ya'll!
    I'm trying to fix the master bathroom toilet today (has been loudly running and wasting water for about 4 days). Does it have a flush valve and flapper like normal toilets....???? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

    So instead of getting to replace just a flapper I'm trying to get an entire flush valve kit I picked up in Walmart to work (and had to take the entire top tank off to do the repair). I've put this thing together 2 times and it's leaking at the bottom valve. Took a break for a bit before I said to hell with it and had an "accident"" and smashed it and then I'd just have hubby just pay for a plumber and get a whole new throne. I think I've got it figured out... I needed to use the old part for the bottom of it so the rubber plug thinggie that joins the tank to the bottom bowl fit right and I needed to tighten the 3 bolts down more. So far, it's not leaking (that I can see) but I don't trust it, so will be checking my toidy every few hours.
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    Oookkkkkk.

    The thought of paying a plumber for this pisses me off, not to mention that if I do repairs around here I can justify buying shoes, purses and mods since my billing rate to Mr. Handbasket is the same as the plumber and it takes me 3 times longer. LOL Hubby? Not much help since he's not allowed to touch tools unless he's handing them to me. :blink:

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    Hiya Hitt... I got a little bit of everything today (40 different songs). Love the .69 cent sales. Mostly :headbang: rock-n-roll and alternative. Linkin Park, Nickelback, Audioslave, Three Days Grace, Jet, Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam. Got some Pop too. Let's see... what else. Pink, Shakira, Rob Thomas, Lenny Kravitz, Gwen Stefani, Dire Straits, etc.... I like all kinds of music. Nice to have it on the laptop and iPhone.

    Verticutter? Bleh. That's why we do granite rock yards out here (front and back for us). More time to float in the pool on weekends (except when toilets demand attention).

    Yeah, that freaking toilet wore me out. Both Mr. Handbasket and I torked our backs fixing that S.O.B.. It sits in it's own water closet room with a door in the master ensuite bath and it's not very big in there (great for privacy, sucks for room to fix stuff). I guess we were pretty comical looking since he's a tall guy and he was pretty contorted getting under there to hold the bolt while I screwed on the tank from the inside. Sorta like the game Twister but with a Toilet.

    We just watched the movie Source Code. Great movie, but a scratch in the disk made us skip a full chapter or two. Damnit. Hubby has been sitting with an ice pack on his back from todays fun and games and I'm ready to go to bed. I'll need to get water flowing through that thing tomorrow to see how it is. Tonight I don't even wanna know... I'll throw down towels just in case. LOL sighhhhh

    Praying for a dry bathroom tomorrow. :blink:
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    Morning Hitt. I checked out Element Eighty. I hadn't heard of them before. Killer guitar. I listed to Guntruck and War (kicks ...). I really like Price to Pay... Thanks! I'll add the Bear album to the must get list.

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    Hey :toast: :bday: :toast:

    Over the Hill? You haven't reached the steep part yet. Trust me, I am a guide.

    Had a chance to lookie that study yet?

    Got rid of two loads of that girl's stuff from my basement today, hopefully two more tomorrow. I found out she lost another job so I want it out before she's on the street again.

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    Evening. Roth yes I did read that. It is rather interesting.

    The wife and kids took me to the KC Jazz museum. It was fun. I've been here a long time and had never gone. I'm more of a blues fan but it was interesting.

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