what's with all the mechs?

[peterforpats]

o.k., so I have progessed on my vaping journey and find myself at new fork in the road. I have all the clearos, cartos , and now rbas that I want or need. vv/vw mods, I got a basketful ,including some nice dna20 mods. so lately I've been itching to get into mechs because apparently I haven't spent enough money. but where to begin? except for a bottom switch or side button what is the real difference? my lord, sigelei alone makes how many mechs? how to tell which one to get and which to ignore? yes, I am a mech virgin, please be gentle. I will mostly use a Russian and Russian 91%- I know the right batteries to use. show me the way.....

 

[Crash Moses]

Mechs are popular for a few reasons.

The first is simplicity and ruggedness. They're easy to use and can handle abuse and are likely to outlast other mods with electronics.

Another reason is aesthetics...A lot of people like how they look (especially the higher end models) and buy them for that purpose.

They also are popular with sub-ohm vapers because there is no current limiting or ohm limiting electronics between the atty and the battery.

I recommend starting out with an inexpensive mech with maybe an IGO-L for the atty and try it out to see if you like it. The Sigelei #8 or #19 are good entry level mechs. The Magneto is nice as well.

Whatever you do...don't skimp on the batteries. Good IMR batteries are a must (along with a quality charger...no cheap stuff).

EDIT: Thought of a couple of other things. Keep your ohms around 1.1 to 1.8. No need to go sub-ohm especially with micro-coils...which is a perfect segue into: Micro-coils...best vape I've had yet. Here's a link to a good thread:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...271-micro-coils-increase-vapor-flavor-th.html

 

[SissySpike]

RTD vapor is a trusted source for batteries and chargers AW are a great choice. Ive herd the Smokteck Magneto is a pretty good mech for under a 100$ Segelei is just cheap copied crap IMO Im sure someone will come along and tell you for 20 they are great but seems to me they have lots of issues.

 

[peterforpats]

Mechs are popular for a few reasons.

The first is simplicity and ruggedness. They're easy to use and can handle abuse and are likely to outlast other mods with electronics.

Another reason is aesthetics...A lot of people like how they look (especially the higher end models) and buy them for that purpose.

They also are popular with sub-ohm vapers because there is no current limiting or ohm limiting electronics between the atty and the battery.

I recommend starting out with an inexpensive mech with maybe an IGO-L for the atty and try it out to see if you like it. The Sigelei #8 or #19 are good entry level mechs. The Magneto is nice as well.

Whatever you do...don't skimp on the batteries. Good IMR batteries are a must (along with a quality charger...no cheap stuff).

EDIT: Thought of a couple of other things. Keep your ohms around 1.1 to 1.8. No need to go sub-ohm especially with micro-coils...which is a perfect segue into: Micro-coils...best vape I've had yet. Here's a link to a good thread:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...271-micro-coils-increase-vapor-flavor-th.html

I have all the rbas and rdas I need so why bother with an igo-l. I know how to coil them. I have the right batteries. not being snide, I need advice on the mech itself.what makes the magneto better than say a sigelei pick- a -number? or the natural? or you name it?

 

[NicoHolic]

Not what you had in mind, but my favorite practical mechanical mod is the REO Grand.

REO Grand Setup by super_X_drifter

 

[Crash Moses]

I have all the rbas and rdas I need so why bother with an igo-l. I know how to coil them. I have the right batteries. not being snide, I need advice on the mech itself.what makes the magneto better than say a sigelei pick- a -number? or the natural? or you name it?

No worries. Most folks oblivious to mechs are also oblivious to RBAs...just wanted to make sure I covered all the bases just in case.

As for the difference between budget mechs? As long as they're working as designed there really isn't a big difference. Some folks have had issues with buttons (they are, after all, inexpensive for a reason) but I haven't. That's why I recommended an inexpensive one to start with...it really doesn't matter which one. Pick one you'll think you'll like. If you hate it you're not out much but if you like it you can start saving for a nice one.

 

[peterforpats]

RTD vapor is a trusted source for batteries and chargers AW are a great choice. Ive herd the Smokteck Magneto is a pretty good mech for under a 100$ Segelei is just cheap copied crap IMO Im sure someone will come along and tell you for 20 they are great but seems to me they have lots of issues.

you may be right but what issues can a metal tube have? it either fires or doesn't right? are the parts in a mech replaceable? is the material important or just for looks? while I love suggestions, I am the type who wants to know why, not that something "seems good". again, sorry if that sounds snide, I really want to know why one is better than another. if I asked about vv/vw no one would have any trouble explaining why a provari is a good choice. mechs seem to be a tougher nut to crack. maybe it just comes down to looks?

 

[Crash Moses]

My favorite practical mechanical mod is the REO Grand.

REO Grand Setup by super_X_drifter

Dang it, Nico...I was all set to reel him in and you jumped the gun.

Thanks a lot!

 

[bhswmc01]

Hubby is a huge fan of mechs - mostly because of their ease of use and sturdiness. We've been vaping for a grand total of 3 months and he already has 10 (facepalm). I'm not so much of a fan because I like vv/vw - but I have to admit, there are some cool-looking affordable options out there.

 

[peterforpats]

Not what you had in mind, but my favorite practical mechanical mod is the REO Grand.

REO Grand Setup by super_X_drifter

that may well be on the list, but I don't think my present rbas will work- don't the require a special bottom fed rba? I kinda wnt to stick with what I already have......

 

[peterforpats]

Hubby is a huge fan of mechs - mostly because of their ease of use and sturdiness. We've been vaping for a grand total of 3 months and he already has 10 (facepalm). I'm not so much of a fan because I like vv/vw - but I have to admit, there are some cool-looking affordable options out there.

thanks: names ,give me names.....

 

[NicoHolic]

Sorry, Crash! Sometimes I fish with dynamite.

 

[sawlight]

I have a Legacy, a BB, a tin mod, just bought a Vmod, but I think this, $29.08 Nemesis Mod / E-Cigarette Battery Compartment - stainless steel / with telescopic pin at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping will be my next purchase. The reviews, so far, have been great on it.

 

[NicoHolic]

Here's the list of compatible RDAs. But you'll really want this one:

Building the REO Reomizer 2.0 RDA by super_X_drifter

 

[cramptholomew]

I just got a Sigelei Silver Dragon. It's a SOLID piece of equipment. I've held a few other sigeleis, and this thing is Much sturdier. It's also 510 and ego threaded, if that interests you. The button mechanics are simple, and 100% metal with a solid brass contact, except for a plastic insulator on the inside around the contact. It's cheaper than other mechs, yes, but it doesn't feel like it is.

 

[Crash Moses]

you may be right but what issues can a metal tube have? it either fires or doesn't right? are the parts in a mech replaceable? is the material important or just for looks? while I love suggestions, I am the type who wants to know why, not that something "seems good". again, sorry if that sounds snide, I really want to know why one is better than another. if I asked about vv/vw no one would have any trouble explaining why a provari is a good choice. mechs seem to be a tougher nut to crack. maybe it just comes down to looks?

Yeah...that's tough to answer. In a nutshell...other than looks and build quality...the biggest variable is voltage drop. A mech with very little voltage drop will provide more voltage over time to the atty than one with a high voltage drop. This lets you vape longer before needing to change batteries and sub-ohmers like it for the increased current/wattage/whatever.

Many folks go out of their way to mod their cheap mechanicals with brass (or gold, or silver) buttons to get the VD as low as possible. Average voltage drop is .5 on a mechanical. .1 or .2 volts is considered pretty darn good.

However...it has been my experience that the resistance and wire gauge used along with internal battery resistance is the biggest factor in VD. I honestly don't feel that the marginal gains one may get with brass buttons and such are worth the effort (however, for the hobbyist I can understand that it's just fun to do that anyway).

My dedicated dripper is a Magneto with an IGO-L using a 30 awg Kanthal micro-coil at 1.1 ohms. With an MNKE IMR 1500 mah battery I'm getting a respectable .3 voltage drop.

Hope that helps...at least a little.

 

[peterforpats]

I have a Legacy, a BB, a tin mod, just bought a Vmod, but I think this, $29.08 Nemesis Mod / E-Cigarette Battery Compartment - stainless steel / with telescopic pin at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping will be my next purchase. The reviews, so far, have been great on it.

it sure looks like a more expensive piece with a price that won't upset me if I am wrong- thanks , I am going in....... doesn't ship for ten days, that's going to be an agonizing wait. thanks everybody, I just pulled the trigger on this one. let's see where this road leads........

 

[bhswmc01]

thanks: names ,give me names.....

Wish I knew! He's at work so I can't grill him. LOL Here's a pic of some of them - he's got 2 more that he took to work with him.

Maybe someone more knowledgeable can identify these - I know some are FT clones.

 

[sawlight]

it sure looks like a more expensive piece with a price that won't upset me if I am wrong- thanks , I am going in.......

If you are seriously interested in it, I highly recommend you read through this thread to get a better idea of it. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/apv-discussion/463419-nemesis-chemesis.html

 

[sawlight]

it sure looks like a more expensive piece with a price that won't upset me if I am wrong- thanks , I am going in.......

If you are seriously interested in it, I highly recommend you read through this thread to get a better idea of it. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/apv-discussion/463419-nemesis-chemesis.html