Nothing hard about it.
*12 wraps each on a 2mm screw 28ga. Together they are 0.90 ohms of kick ...!
What's the appeal of Mech's and Dripper's?? I don't get it.
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*12 wraps each on a 2mm screw 28ga. Together they are 0.90 ohms of kick ...!
Nothing hard about it.
*12 wraps each on a 2mm screw 28ga. Together they are 0.90 ohms of kick ...!
You missed the home run part.
i love my mechs/rdas for their simplicity and the fact i love tinkering with things plus you can go from vapor clouds to flavor explosion in a matter of minutes with just a coil change 
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You missed the home run part.
Well that would be my Super Ninja Flying Squirrel coil. No home runs with this one. It's just a Ninja Squirrel coil.. hehe
i love my mechs/rdas for their simplicity and the fact i love tinkering with things plus you can from vapor clouds to flavor explosion in a matter of minutes with just a coil change
What does these clouds suppose to look like?
Omg lol. You guys....lol. Glycernimbus stratospherous.
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Mech's weren't always so popular. The invention of the Genesis atty brought them back in style. If I heard it once I heard it a thousand times.. "you have to use it on a mech to get it to shine!" Now there are mech's everywhere. The genesis atty is being replaced by the kayfun style devices and I wonder if the mech will be able to stay afloat. It's been interesting to watch it all play out over the last couple of years. (I've got a nice collection of mesh wicks in a box behind me)
As to why drippers and mechs are so popular... I guess it's because the sport of cloud chasing has emerged in the last year. Mech's don't have an amp limit so people can build their drippers to super low resistances where even the latest dna devices can't fire.
I started out dripping into a 2.5Ω atty on a little 510 stick batt. Then I graduated to an eGo and so on and so on. For me, dripping got old fast! But back then, cartos hadn't been invented yet (let alone carto tanks) so dripping was all I could do at the time. Now I only use a dripper to test my diy juices. It helps to know a bit of vape history and being able to see all these trends play out. People think they're "graduating" to a mech but have no idea why mechs became so popluar to begin with. I can see posters scratching their heads wondering why someone would want to use something that gradually lowers the voltage. I too was hesitant to buy my first mech and yes, they really did make the genesis attys "shine"!
With all that being said, I use both mechanicals (Reo's and Atmizoo Rollers) along side my regulated (Provari's) devices. As long as I keep my resistance right under 1Ω, I can get a quality, satisfying vape out of my mech's (on one 18650 batt) for as long as the batt lasts on the regulated devices.
Anyway... thought a bit of history might help some understand.
As to why drippers and mechs are so popular... I guess it's because the sport of cloud chasing has emerged in the last year. Mech's don't have an amp limit so people can build their drippers to super low resistances where even the latest dna devices can't fire.
I started out dripping into a 2.5Ω atty on a little 510 stick batt. Then I graduated to an eGo and so on and so on. For me, dripping got old fast! But back then, cartos hadn't been invented yet (let alone carto tanks) so dripping was all I could do at the time. Now I only use a dripper to test my diy juices. It helps to know a bit of vape history and being able to see all these trends play out. People think they're "graduating" to a mech but have no idea why mechs became so popluar to begin with. I can see posters scratching their heads wondering why someone would want to use something that gradually lowers the voltage. I too was hesitant to buy my first mech and yes, they really did make the genesis attys "shine"!
With all that being said, I use both mechanicals (Reo's and Atmizoo Rollers) along side my regulated (Provari's) devices. As long as I keep my resistance right under 1Ω, I can get a quality, satisfying vape out of my mech's (on one 18650 batt) for as long as the batt lasts on the regulated devices.
Anyway... thought a bit of history might help some understand.
For me I wanted to try dripping when I'd heard of it because i like to change up my juice. I use my tank when I have to charge my big high drain bar for 8 hours. Too cheap to buy another. I also Wanted something big and industrial looking. And to experiment with DIY coils, Et al. I'm new to this, but since, I've found dripping on a dual coil a flavor experience superior to tanks. The whole thing is personal choice and I love how many options there are. If you don't 'get it' there's nothing wrong with that. You like what you like.
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Oh yes! One of the reasons I got one
It's a strange one for sure. And not in a bad way. My post may have come off too much on the negative side. Was just trying to offer some counterbalance to it being "5x better than (pretty much anything else) ".
Sorry after reading that out loud, that did sound like I was straight up insulting everything other than an RDA. I just meant for my needs, and believe me the novelty 3d rda can't even come close to a kayfun's flavor or warmth, it's a pretty airy vape by that standard. I own and use the squape, Ithaka, and especially the prometheus quite a bit. I'll definitely admit that all three beat the flavor of the 3d hands down, (the Ithaka (albeit lacking in vapor) isn't even in the same universe considering flavor, I've actually had to dilute juices because they were too strong
) but I'm ashamedly a "cloud chaser", I don't feel like it can be my perfect vape without a really good amount of dense vapor. That being said the Squape (after I opened her up to 7/64th" airflow) and the prometheus give pretty much the same amount of vapor if you build it right. ~Out of all the popular RBA's I've tried (lol only 4; kayfun, squape, prometheus and the GG Ithaka), the prometheus gives an AMAZING amount of vapor. It's probably due to the 2 1/8th" airholes, the massive chamber, and the fact that it will feed while your vaping. With a good sub-ohm build it'll seriously gives off MORE vapor than most of my RDA's, while still giving you full bodied flavor and the cooler vape that I like. The thing is built like a kiln, with a tank of juice below it. (Although the wicking didn't keep up with my vaping at first, I drilled the actual wick-holes to 7/64th's to beef up the wicking speed, and it became a completely new animal. Previously I had to hold it upside down for 30 seconds before I could chain vape again (probably because of my thick VG juice), now it has alot of cotton (sometimes mesh) to wick up through with less resistance, and the only time I need to tip is when it gets below half, and if I tip it falls through so easy it's like dripping with a juice bottle attached to the chamber. Easily the best experience I've ever had with an RBA, the squape is great because it will wick fast enough, and not flood every now and then, like my russian 91, it's also got better flavor but really lacks in vapor amount compared to the prometheus or a dripper. The Ithaka is the only "true" RBA I've had to date though, it 100% works the way it's supposed to without any real tampering from me. Although it doesn't produces gobs and gobs of vapor, I couldn't care less just because of the ease of use, and flavor quality. It's the only RBA I've just stuck in my built coils, put the wicks in their slots, and she was ready to go all-day with no flooding, dry hits (probably because it has a juice flow adjuster), leaking, or any wicking problem whatsoever. It's beautifully manufactured, gives a do-able amount of flavorful vapor, and is %100 ready for a long road trip.
~I don't know why I like big vapor so much, it's an expensive (juice-wise) curse, but it's the most satisfying feeling to me to take a 1 second pull, and blow out a dense cloud that can fill a car's trunk. It's the only way for me to get a really smooth hit, and still have that slight nicotine effect. For me the key to my happiness is *more, *lower nicotine e-liquid when it comes down to it. The buzz feels more consistent, stronger yet not a kick to the head like when I vape a device that produces less vapor with higher nicotine content to make up for less delivery vapor. (I only vape 6mg in RDA's/squape/prometheus, and 12mg in everything else, I'm not a nic. fiend or anything
.)Whoa typed alot more than I meant lol, again sorry to make it sound like "the 3D dripper is 5x better than everything you like" pretty much, those are just for my personal all-around preferences. RBA's/Genni's/Carto's definitely smoke drippers in many ways, especially in ease of use and the flavor category, much less being safer too.
Besides what I should've said anyway (since I pre-ordered one a month ago, and actually received it today!) is that the Tatroe T1 is a pretty perfect solution for someone who wants the best of both worlds. I've been vaping on mine all day and have nearly emptied the pretty massive 3.7ml pyrex tank above the RDA compartment, first time I've ever done dripping while driving
. It's not 100% self-automated as you actually have to turn the cap yourself to put in however many drops you want, but still a hell of alot more convenient than carrying around a juice bottle, opening it and dripping while your busy. You simply twist the pressure sealed cap to the left until you see a bubble (one drop) come out of the RDA compartment, and then twist back to the right to push that one drop in, easy peasy, and you can still get the great vapor quality of a dripper if that's your thing. It's the first RDTA (dripping tank atty), and I had to jump on it even though it was a little pricey at $120, but well worth it for the best of both worlds in my opinion. There's no sharing of the negative aspects of both, rather the only con I can come up with is literally only the fact that the big air shaft going from the RDA to the drip tip does condense e-liquid (doesn't steal any vapor though! It vapes as good as even my best RDA's) and that condensed liquid will sometimes leak out if you take off the "cap/tank" off of the deck to look at your coils or whatever. So I just set it down on something absorbent when the cap is off. But it's literally an excellent identical vape from an RDA, with the convenience of a cartomizer/RBA.
Tatroe Mods T1 RDTA
And here's a video of how the manual tank part works if your interested (Skip to 6:20 for the actual tank demonstration):
Thnx Treehead -- That's the first I have seen of the Tatroe Mods T1 RDTA. I'm intrigued to say the least.
Sorry after reading that out loud, that did sound like I was straight up insulting everything other than an RDA. I just meant for my needs, and believe me the novelty 3d rda can't even come close to a kayfun's flavor or warmth, it's a pretty airy vape by that standard. I own and use the squape, Ithaka, and especially the prometheus quite a bit. I'll definitely admit that all three beat the flavor of the 3d hands down, (the Ithaka (albeit lacking in vapor) isn't even in the same universe considering flavor, I've actually had to dilute juices because they were too strong
~Out of all the popular RBA's I've tried (lol only 4; kayfun, squape, prometheus and the GG Ithaka), the prometheus gives an AMAZING amount of vapor. It's probably due to the 2 1/8th" airholes, the massive chamber, and the fact that it will feed while your vaping. With a good sub-ohm build it'll seriously gives off MORE vapor than most of my RDA's, while still giving you full bodied flavor and the cooler vape that I like. The thing is built like a kiln, with a tank of juice below it. (Although the wicking didn't keep up with my vaping at first, I drilled the actual wick-holes to 7/64th's to beef up the wicking speed, and it became a completely new animal. Previously I had to hold it upside down for 30 seconds before I could chain vape again (probably because of my thick VG juice), now it has alot of cotton (sometimes mesh) to wick up through with less resistance, and the only time I need to tip is when it gets below half, and if I tip it falls through so easy it's like dripping with a juice bottle attached to the chamber. Easily the best experience I've ever had with an RBA, the squape is great because it will wick fast enough, and not flood every now and then, like my russian 91, it's also got better flavor but really lacks in vapor amount compared to the prometheus or a dripper. The Ithaka is the only "true" RBA I've had to date though, it 100% works the way it's supposed to without any real tampering from me. Although it doesn't produces gobs and gobs of vapor, I couldn't care less just because of the ease of use, and flavor quality. It's the only RBA I've just stuck in my built coils, put the wicks in their slots, and she was ready to go all-day with no flooding, dry hits (probably because it has a juice flow adjuster), leaking, or any wicking problem whatsoever. It's beautifully manufactured, gives a do-able amount of flavorful vapor, and is %100 ready for a long road trip.
~I don't know why I like big vapor so much, it's an expensive (juice-wise) curse, but it's the most satisfying feeling to me to take a 1 second pull, and blow out a dense cloud that can fill a car's trunk. It's the only way for me to get a really smooth hit, and still have that slight nicotine effect. For me the key to my happiness is *more, *lower nicotine e-liquid when it comes down to it. The buzz feels more consistent, stronger yet not a kick to the head like when I vape a device that produces less vapor with higher nicotine content to make up for less delivery vapor. (I only vape 6mg in RDA's/squape/prometheus, and 12mg in everything else, I'm not a nic. fiend or anything
Whoa typed alot more than I meant lol, again sorry to make it sound like "the 3D dripper is 5x better than everything you like" pretty much, those are just for my personal all-around preferences. RBA's/Genni's/Carto's definitely smoke drippers in many ways, especially in ease of use and the flavor category, much less being safer too.
Besides what I should've said anyway (since I pre-ordered one a month ago, and actually received it today!) is that the Tatroe T1 is a pretty perfect solution for someone who wants the best of both worlds. I've been vaping on mine all day and have nearly emptied the pretty massive 3.7ml pyrex tank above the RDA compartment, first time I've ever done dripping while driving
It's the first RDTA (dripping tank atty), and I had to jump on it even though it was a little pricey at $120, but well worth it for the best of both worlds in my opinion. There's no sharing of the negative aspects of both, rather the only con I can come up with is literally only the fact that the big air shaft going from the RDA to the drip tip does condense e-liquid (doesn't steal any vapor though! It vapes as good as even my best RDA's) and that condensed liquid will sometimes leak out if you take off the "cap/tank" off of the deck to look at your coils or whatever. So I just set it down on something absorbent when the cap is off. But it's literally an excellent identical vape from an RDA, with the convenience of a cartomizer/RBA.
Tatroe Mods T1 RDTA
And here's a video of how the manual tank part works if your interested (Skip to 6:20 for the actual tank demonstration):
That looks really interesting
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Na ... I get the vape I want from a ~$20 RDA. Why would I want to spend an additional $100 to get the same thing.
I get a great vape from my sub $20 gear as well. This product is fairly innovative and makes dripping more convenient. Is that convenience worth the extra money? I haven't decided yet, but when I do, it will be my decision. I spend my money how I see fit.
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No problem
, the only dissapointing part about this RDTA is the price lol. I was expecting it to be slightly less better than your average dripper, but it's not! It's just a little cooler because of the distance the vapor travels.
Hey brother I'll be the first to agree that a $30 castle clone, or even an igo-w2 clone will make the same vape as this. But what you don't get with a cheap RDA is a juice reservoir, and the amazing craftsmanship from Tatroe. It's seriously a chunk of fine metal and THICK pyrex, plus it's unique and interested every vaper I've come across at local vape conventions (not that that's important, but it's a cool topper!
). It also comes with a regular RDA cap if you want the normal RDA experience, and frankly is performs better than most of my cheap RDA's in that mode. The chamber is THICK, which holds the heat well, and turns it into more of a kiln than an RDA (especially compared to the super-thin walls of my igo w-2). ~Like you though, I couldn't bring myself to buy it because it is just an RDA that eliminates the need for carrying around a bottle (which isn't a big deal). Once I finally became obsessed with vaping, I waited until my birthday, to buy it, basically treated myself to something I've always wanted but couldn't "waste" the money on. But I couldn't be more happy that I bought it. It's a super-convenient RDA! I couldn't ask for more to be honest, plus it's the first of it's kind
. When all the other companies start releasing this perfect topper, I can say I had the first. With serial number 123 at that! (It is kind of vain to buy it, but it's made vaping that much more enjoyable.)
I couldn't have said it better myself man, right on the money. I'm one of the few vapers out there that can appreciate both sides of the fence, I don't stick to either "team" of Tanks vs. Drippers. I can appreciate the convenient, no hassle "just give me vapor without having to tinker all day" philosophy behind cartos, and any other type of self-dripping system like a kayfun, or genesis. Because frankly, even if it doesn't give you vapor that will blind you in traffic, you can always raise or lower your nicotine mg to give you the effect you want, and flavor is basically dependent on juice, let's be honest there aren't many devices out there that actually mute flavors to the point of being un-satisfacory. I think the worst device I've ever vaped flavor wise was the old-school volcano magma cartomizers (even blucigs were better), and it STILL wasn't lacking enough to make me go "hmm, this tastes worse than cigarettes" or even disappoint me. Maybe I'm not the pickiest of taste-buds, but if it's enough flavor to not taste like watered down kool-aid (nothing has EVER been that bad besides magma's "kona coffee"), then frankly I think it's good enough for anybody who had smoking as a habit, because let's admit that unless your smoking some super flavored pipe tobacco, cigarettes aren't exactly something people would choose as a gum flavor, unless you have an aquired taste.
That being said I think basically any device will do what anyone wants for nicotine and flavor, which is pretty much the only point of e-cigarette devices. Any other preferences are what the individual wants, the only options left are vapor amount/density, speed of vapor production (basically power), temperature, and finally convenience/aesthetics. To me anyway, these 3 factors of your individual style of vaping determine whether you want a carto-tank, dripper, or anything in-between.
My individual style prefers to tinker (alot), give me the most amount of vapor in shortest time possible (I like to take 1 second pulls and set it down for a minute, and ideally get a huge lungful of vapor), and finally be able to constantly change my coils, flavors, and overall setup. This is the type of person I am too, I am constantly tinkering with my vehicles, trying to get the most power, the fastest tranny, and the most competitive parts I can find so I can smoke the honda civics around town, or be able to off-road through the deepest river. I know my buddy couldn't care less about his vehicle as long as it gets him where he wants to be safely, and has the most efficient mpg. Our priorities are different and I respect that, he saves a CRAP-TON more money on gas (e-liquid), has more time to do what he wants (because he's not building his own coils, or customizing his device), and his vehicle is way less dangerous than mine (doesn't have to worry about battery safety, coil shorts, burning cotton, or whether his prius is will blow up, because it's been tested by everybody, and it's not altered/not know to have issues). On the other hand, he'll never be able to beat me in a race, can't tow a heavy load, or compete with anybody (not important though). Sorry for the vehicle metaphor lol, but I think it's the perfect analogy for vaping preferences.
So they both have their downsides and their upsides, yet they ultimately do the same thing. I remember when I first started vaping I thought carto's and RBA's/genni's were much cooler, they're their own relatively sophisticated device that have their own juice flow, reservoir, and coils designed specifically for it. And I also liked that I could go to the store and buy the same device that other's were having a good experience with, and have the same experience hassle-free. The aspire nautilus is still an awesome tank to me that I use when busy, or simply don't want to screw around with my device. The only reason I ultimately ended up dripping was because I'd watch youtube videos and didn't understand how people were vaping at 70 watts, and getting 10x bigger clouds than I was, big vapor is important to me, but I can definitely understand not caring about it, because it isn't important to the overall idea of getting great flavored nicotine. Researching how to get ridiculous clouds in the quickest way possible eventually led me to RDA's with an un-protected mechanical mod attached to it, at this point I couldn't care less about the device doing it for me, I personally enjoyed customizing my setup to do exactly what I want, and thought it was fun. (Probably because I'm OCD when it comes to vaping
, I gotta have everything performing just right, or it bugs me.)Wow I typed alot, but this is what I believe, we shouldn't try to shove our styles down anyones throats, because they simply think something else is better than your method who cares
. Do whatever you want that fits your preferences and personality! Vapers should all be happy that we all beat carcinogenic tobacco (or are trying to at least), and not squabble over who's superior and why. 
I couldn't have said it better myself man, right on the money. I'm one of the few vapers out there that can appreciate both sides of the fence, I don't stick to either "team" of Tanks vs. Drippers. I can appreciate the convenient, no hassle "just give me vapor without having to tinker all day" philosophy behind cartos, and any other type of self-dripping system like a kayfun, or genesis. Because frankly, even if it doesn't give you vapor that will blind you in traffic, you can always raise or lower your nicotine mg to give you the effect you want, and flavor is basically dependent on juice, let's be honest there aren't many devices out there that actually mute flavors to the point of being un-satisfacory. I think the worst device I've ever vaped flavor wise was the old-school volcano magma cartomizers (even blucigs were better), and it STILL wasn't lacking enough to make me go "hmm, this tastes worse than cigarettes" or even disappoint me. Maybe I'm not the pickiest of taste-buds, but if it's enough flavor to not taste like watered down kool-aid (nothing has EVER been that bad besides magma's "kona coffee"), then frankly I think it's good enough for anybody who had smoking as a habit, because let's admit that unless your smoking some super flavored pipe tobacco, cigarettes aren't exactly something people would choose as a gum flavor, unless you have an aquired taste.
That being said I think basically any device will do what anyone wants for nicotine and flavor, which is pretty much the only point of e-cigarette devices. Any other preferences are what the individual wants, the only options left are vapor amount/density, speed of vapor production (basically power), temperature, and finally convenience/aesthetics. To me anyway, these 3 factors of your individual style of vaping determine whether you want a carto-tank, dripper, or anything in-between.
My individual style prefers to tinker (alot), give me the most amount of vapor in shortest time possible (I like to take 1 second pulls and set it down for a minute, and ideally get a huge lungful of vapor), and finally be able to constantly change my coils, flavors, and overall setup. This is the type of person I am too, I am constantly tinkering with my vehicles, trying to get the most power, the fastest tranny, and the most competitive parts I can find so I can smoke the honda civics around town, or be able to off-road through the deepest river. I know my buddy couldn't care less about his vehicle as long as it gets him where he wants to be safely, and has the most efficient mpg. Our priorities are different and I respect that, he saves a CRAP-TON more money on gas (e-liquid), has more time to do what he wants (because he's not building his own coils, or customizing his device), and his vehicle is way less dangerous than mine (doesn't have to worry about battery safety, coil shorts, burning cotton, or whether his prius is will blow up, because it's been tested by everybody, and it's not altered/not know to have issues). On the other hand, he'll never be able to beat me in a race, can't tow a heavy load, or compete with anybody (not important though). Sorry for the vehicle metaphor lol, but I think it's the perfect analogy for vaping preferences.
So they both have their downsides and their upsides, yet they ultimately do the same thing. I remember when I first started vaping I thought carto's and RBA's/genni's were much cooler, they're their own relatively sophisticated device that have their own juice flow, reservoir, and coils designed specifically for it. And I also liked that I could go to the store and buy the same device that other's were having a good experience with, and have the same experience hassle-free. The aspire nautilus is still an awesome tank to me that I use when busy, or simply don't want to screw around with my device. The only reason I ultimately ended up dripping was because I'd watch youtube videos and didn't understand how people were vaping at 70 watts, and getting 10x bigger clouds than I was, big vapor is important to me, but I can definitely understand not caring about it, because it isn't important to the overall idea of getting great flavored nicotine. Researching how to get ridiculous clouds in the quickest way possible eventually led me to RDA's with an un-protected mechanical mod attached to it, at this point I couldn't care less about the device doing it for me, I personally enjoyed customizing my setup to do exactly what I want, and thought it was fun. (Probably because I'm OCD when it comes to vaping
Wow I typed alot, but this is what I believe, we shouldn't try to shove our styles down anyones throats, because they simply think something else is better than your method who cares
Beautifully put, and I love the car analogy.
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RipTrippers comments on the CONS of the thing had me wondering myself. I like a warm vape anyway.
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